Any UCSF Mepn Applicants? - page 8

Hi everyone-- Has anyone else out there applied to the UCSF MEPN program? They're supposed to send out letters this month (December) for the interview process. Has anyone gotten a letter yet? Will... Read More

  1. by   pc2
    Well, I got the thin envelope. Time to think about plan B. :uhoh21: Here's an excerpt from the letter

    "...While you clearly met the minimum criteria for admission to graduate standing at UCSF, the pool of applicants this year was enormous and highly competitive. Only 150 of approximately 600 applicants were selected to interview for 90 finalist spots and, unfortunately, you were not among those..."

    Good luck to everyone.

  2. by   dordogne24
    You know, there are a few people posting on this forum who got into UCSF on the second try. If you're up for it, you might think about putting some thought into (or asking them directly) what you might do to be more competitive next time. That's my plan, anyway, if I too get the thin envelope.

    It's hard not to get discouraged after all this work and waiting. But who knows what excellent things might happen because you DIDN'T get in this year?
    Last edit by dordogne24 on Dec 20, '06
  3. by   pc2
    Quote from dordogne24
    You know, there are a few people posting on this forum who got into UCSF on the second try. If you're up for it, you might think about putting some thought into (or asking them directly) what you might do to be more competitive next time. That's my plan, anyway, if I too get the thin envelope.

    It's hard not to get discouraged after all this work and waiting. But who knows what excellent things might happen because you DIDN'T get in this year?
    Thanks for the words of encouragement. The letter provided a phone number to call between February 1, 2007 and March 1, 2007 to discuss my application with a member of the faculty. I have a month or two to regroup and figure out where to go from here.
  4. by   Nat3433
    PC2, so sorry to hear about your disappointing news. It is hard after all the work the application itself required.

    I'm really not sure I know what got me to this stage, but I'd be happy to help in any way I can if you do decide to reapply. I hear, from inside sources, that reapplying gets you more points as it demonstrates a determination and a passion for the profession, rather than people who give up and go to law school instead, or whatever...
  5. by   dordogne24
    :icon_rolleyes:
    THE DREADED THIN ENVELOPE....it is mine.

    Wah....after crying my eyes out (I'm not done yet), I will take my own advice and focus on what's next...and what options are open to me now that I know what I'm NOT doing. Sigh...it's not easy to hear that your "package" is so not-compelling that they don't even want to talk to you!

    It's been fun commiserating and guessing and hoping and waiting with you all--good luck with everything! It would be awesome if you keep posting as you progress through the program--so many are curious as to what it's like.

    And with luck, maybe I will see some of you there in a year.....
    :spin:
  6. by   pc2
    Quote from Nat3433
    PC2, so sorry to hear about your disappointing news. It is hard after all the work the application itself required.

    I'm really not sure I know what got me to this stage, but I'd be happy to help in any way I can if you do decide to reapply. I hear, from inside sources, that reapplying gets you more points as it demonstrates a determination and a passion for the profession, rather than people who give up and go to law school instead, or whatever...
    Thanks, I might take you up on that. For now I'm planning to continue with the A&P series at De Anza college followed by Microbiology. It's kind of ironic because I actually enjoyed A&P. Another possibility is to look into various ADN/BSN programs in the Bay Area in addition to reapplying to UCSF next year. Anyway, didn't someone say it's all those detours that makes life more interesting.
  7. by   pc2
    Quote from dordogne24
    :icon_rolleyes:
    THE DREADED THIN ENVELOPE....it is mine.

    Wah....after crying my eyes out (I'm not done yet), I will take my own advice and focus on what's next...and what options are open to me now that I know what I'm NOT doing. Sigh...it's not easy to hear that your "package" is so not-compelling that they don't even want to talk to you!

    It's been fun commiserating and guessing and hoping and waiting with you all--good luck with everything! It would be awesome if you keep posting as you progress through the program--so many are curious as to what it's like.

    And with luck, maybe I will see some of you there in a year.....
    :spin:
    So sorry to hear you also got the dreaded thin envelope. I feel your pain.
    Last edit by pc2 on Dec 21, '06
  8. by   CameronRex
    Hello...I too got the dreaded envelope (2nd time) and want to respond to anyone thinking of reapplying because that is the path I took. Last year, after the dreaded envelope, I waited until February and then set up an appointment to talk to a member of the faculty. The meeting takes place over the phone.

    The faculty member I spoke with was extremely helpful. She told me that while I met the qualifications as far as GRE and prerequisites my choice of focus (Acute Care) and goal statment did not mesh very well. Further, she offered me her assistance to look over my goal statement should I choose to reapply.

    True to her word, when I reapplied she went over my goal statement and offered me excellent advice on ways to make it stronger. I changed my focuse to HIV/AIDS and closely tailored my goal statment to back up my interest in that area. I have almost 5 years current volunteer experience in a reputable agency providing services to people living with HIV/AIDS.

    I must admit to a wee bit of bitterness and disbelief that I dont' even warrant an interview. I am also trying hard not to notice that the pictures of the last 3 MEPN classes have all been primarly young women which would seem to undercut the program's claims to be seeking diverse backgrounds in its applicant pool. (I am a male approaching 40).

    I think UCSF MEPN is an excellent program and Congratulations to everyone that gets interviews and then gets admitted. To anyone that didn't get interviews, consider carefully whether you fit the ACTUAL make-up of the student body as evidenced in the class photographs. Its a long and arduous process to go through twice.

    One final little nitpic...why is the schedule such that rejections are sent right before the Christmas Holiday and WHY is it really necessary to send TWO letters letting those rejected know that they are not good enough.

    Okay, this was my chance to vent my frustration. I hope, in the midst of the rant, the information on my reapplication experience is helpful.

    Regards and Happy Holidays to everyone
  9. by   sci-fry
    I'm so sorry you have had to go through this disappointment.

    I did want to mention, for whatever it's worth, that in terms of class demographics that while I am a woman, I am 49. Not young.
  10. by   dordogne24
    wow, CameronRex...first of all, thanks so much for your detailed comments. I am totally shocked that with your volunteer experience and re-working of the goal statement (with insider help) you didn't get an interview. It makes me think that those 90 people who did get interviews must be "even more" stellar in what they put forward. Meaning that ALL their applicants must be pretty amazing. Damn...what is your next plan? Are you applying to community colleges, too? I am. College of Marin gods, smile upon me...

    Best of luck to you, seriously.
  11. by   pc2
    Quote from dordogne24
    wow, CameronRex...first of all, thanks so much for your detailed comments. I am totally shocked that with your volunteer experience and re-working of the goal statement (with insider help) you didn't get an interview...
    It would be really interesting and greatly appreciated if I could read a goal statement from someone who got invited to interview or is already in the program. I realize it wouldn't be applicable to me but I could at least get a flavor of what a good goal statement looks like. Anyone in the NP track with interest in research willing to volunteering their goal statement to help a potential student? I'd be willing to drive to the UCSF campus to meet for coffee or something? If it makes any difference, I'm male and over 40.
    Last edit by pc2 on Dec 21, '06
  12. by   CameronRex
    Quote from sci-fry
    I'm so sorry you have had to go through this disappointment.

    I did want to mention, for whatever it's worth, that in terms of class demographics that while I am a woman, I am 49. Not young.
    49 IS young! The older I get the younger it looks! My post last night was fresh off the 'bitter train'. I didn't mean to imply that UCSF ONLY takes young women. Last years class had many more men than the year before...which is great. BUT, I researched and prepared for this for years and looking at the class demographics they are primarily young women. So, sci-fry, I think you can be especially proud because I firmly believe that you must be a stellar applicant to overcome the demographic tilt. I hope you WOW 'em in the interview and then once admitted show the young kids how smart and valuable we older fold can be! Go get 'em!!!
  13. by   CameronRex
    Quote from dordogne24
    wow, CameronRex...first of all, thanks so much for your detailed comments. I am totally shocked that with your volunteer experience and re-working of the goal statement (with insider help) you didn't get an interview. It makes me think that those 90 people who did get interviews must be "even more" stellar in what they put forward. Meaning that ALL their applicants must be pretty amazing. Damn...what is your next plan? Are you applying to community colleges, too? I am. College of Marin gods, smile upon me...

    Best of luck to you, seriously.
    I neglected to mention last night that two of my letters of reference were from doctors, one of whom is in the UCSF medical school administration. I have one advanced degree. I am not being egotistical but I really wonder what all the young applicants are bringing to the table where I do not even warrant an interview. Let me be clear, while disappointed, I would not be bitter if I had at least been granted an interview on my second try...even if eventually not getting admitted. I am very perplexed. If my credentials are not good enough then the Nursing School should be more honest and update their minimum requirements so as not to give more people false hope

    Anyway, to answer your question, I am not sure what I am going to do next. I would need more prerequisites to apply to community colleges and while I am not sure what College of Marin is like, City College here in SF is a lottery system. An applicant with straight 'As' has as much chance of getting in as one with straight 'Cs'. I won't put myself through that. Any other program also requires that more time be spent not working or working low-paying jobs...which is difficult with living costs being what they are in the Bay Area. I may move out of the area if I choose the community college path.

    I'm going to go home and visit my family for the holidays and I'll consider my options in the New Year.

    Cheers to all and best of luck!

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