Thomas Jefferson FACT Program - page 14

Hi. I have been accepted into the TJU FACT program that begins in May but the orientation isn't until a week before classes begin and I would like to get a better idea of the scheduling. I know... Read More

  1. by   Accelerated25
    Quote from AtomicWoman
    I'm undecided about the reception. I went last year, but that was when I was planning to do the APW program. It would be nice to meet some fellow FACTers beforehand. Any other old coots out there? LOL!
    Hi Atomic Woman,
    to be honest, me either.
    I was there for Financial Aid workshop, it was pretty sad to know that we are only eligible for 12.5 thousands $
    and the rest it would be only private loans. I was pretty tired by the end.
    I am still contemplating about the reception, but the most likely I will come for orientation on the 19th of May.
    I am eager to see all FACters too, but for me it is quite a distance to go there.
  2. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from Accelerated25
    Hi Atomic Woman,
    to be honest, me either.
    I was there for Financial Aid workshop, it was pretty sad to know that we are only eligible for 12.5 thousands $
    and the rest it would be only private loans. I was pretty tired by the end.
    I am still contemplating about the reception, but the most likely I will come for orientation on the 19th of May.
    I am eager to see all FACters too, but for me it is quite a distance to go there.
    Yeah, I went to the financial aid workshop last year and basically wasted a Saturday. I didn't learn anything I didn't know already. I also know not to expect any "aid", just loans. Apparently, you have to be living in a cardboard box to get any grants. LOL!

    Orientation on the 19th of May is mandatory -- did you get an email from Nikki about that?
  3. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from sunshine0509
    I plan on attending the Welcome Day!

    Also has anyone finished their medical/immunization? I am just starting (procrastination), did you just bring it the incoming students requirements to your family physician?
    Thanks for any help!!
    Did you print out all the forms here?

    http://www.jefferson.edu/uhs/incoming.cfm

    The people the office of student health are very helpful and nice. You'll find their phone number on the cover letter you can download at that web address.

    Maybe we ANers should wear a special tag when/if we attend the New Students Reception.
  4. by   Accelerated25
    Quote from AtomicWoman
    Yeah, I went to the financial aid workshop last year and basically wasted a Saturday. I didn't learn anything I didn't know already. I also know not to expect any "aid", just loans. Apparently, you have to be living in a cardboard box to get any grants. LOL!

    Orientation on the 19th of May is mandatory -- did you get an email from Nikki about that?
    Yeah, that's true, you have to be very poor in order to get any grants.
    It makes it difficult, especially, because, we already have our first Bachelor's degree.
    I am coming for Orientation for sure! I meant that I wasn't sure about reception.
    Once, we start school, I will stay in New Jersey at my relatives house and take train every day. It is quite close, West Mount station, if I am not wrong.
    I am excited and worried at the same time!
    I can not wait.....
  5. by   Pianitra
    Hi All , I am starting to get very excite to start school. I, too, am unsure that I will be able to attend the accepted students day since I am currently in Seattle. I started at Facebook group just so we could get to know each other before we all gather in Philly. If anyone is interested just search for Jefferson FACT. It would be fun to put names with faces. I am excited to meet all of you. -Emily
  6. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from Accelerated25
    Yeah, that's true, you have to be very poor in order to get any grants.
    It makes it difficult, especially, because, we already have our first Bachelor's degree.
    I am coming for Orientation for sure! I meant that I wasn't sure about reception.
    Once, we start school, I will stay in New Jersey at my relatives house and take train every day. It is quite close, West Mount station, if I am not wrong.
    I am excited and worried at the same time!
    I can not wait.....
    Westmont, but West Mount is close enough. Westmont station is very close to Philly. Your train ride will be 15 to 20 minutes, and the train will let you off at 9th, 10th and Locust Streets. When you come out of the train station, Jefferson is right in front of you! I will probably take the train on classroom days, too, just to save on parking fees.
  7. by   sunshine0509
    I will be taking the train as well from lindenwold, nj (sp?)
    Pianitra..I couldn't find the facebook group idk what I'm doing wrong?
    And does anyone know how many people are in our fact class? I know I heard once but really cant remember!
  8. by   Accelerated25
    Quote from AtomicWoman
    Westmont, but West Mount is close enough. Westmont station is very close to Philly. Your train ride will be 15 to 20 minutes, and the train will let you off at 9th, 10th and Locust Streets. When you come out of the train station, Jefferson is right in front of you! I will probably take the train on classroom days, too, just to save on parking fees.
    Yes, exactly, AtomicWoman, Westmont! I got confused with new titles.
    I took it a couple of times, just to check, the station is right near the campus and, probably, we will get monthly pass with student discount, so it can really help to save a little money for gas and parking and also you don't have to worry about traffic and so on.
  9. by   Pianitra
    I don't know what is up with facebook, sometimes I have a hard time finding things on there as well. Here is the link to the site. I hope this works for you. Emily http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...2830881&ref=mf
  10. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from sunshine0509
    I will be taking the train as well from lindenwold, nj (sp?)
    Pianitra..I couldn't find the facebook group idk what I'm doing wrong?
    And does anyone know how many people are in our fact class? I know I heard once but really cant remember!
    As far as I know, it's in the 100-to-120 student range for the FACT program alone.
  11. by   VoLiTioN88
    Atomic Woman, I must say that reading your posts have been a huge help while I've been trying to get things ready. Im a college senior, so as I get ready to graduate I am trying to juggle my last semester of undergrad with trying to get all of the necessary "stuff" into Jefferson. I did have a couple questions for you...

    1. Is there a separate financial aid application? Am I supposed to be doing more than filling out my FAFSA? I did that, as I have done now for many years and was wondering if there was more for me to do.

    2. Is anyone going to live in Jefferson housing? Im from New Hampshire, but am completing my undergrad in NJ- I have been a resident assistant at my current school for years and am interviewing for a similar position at Jefferson, but am unsure of how many applicants there are. The housing fees on the Jefferson website are a convoluted mess and I was wondering if anyone had any insight into that. I was told I was "guaranteed" housing, but I am unsure of what that means (a box?)

    3. Do I need my car since Ill be living in Philly? My car is not the most reliable piece of machinery ever, and I was wondering if I should unload my car and look into a low-cost lease so I would have something reliable to drive. I'd rather just go without, but don't want to find myself having placements in NJ and no way to get there.

    4. I noticed that the FACT students can complete their MSN in one additional calendar year, is that really plausible with working? It doesn't look like it would be too overwhelming on paper, I just was wondering if people really do complete the program as advertised. My plan was to do the adult nurse practitioner option, is it possible to work and get the clinical time needed for that program completed?

    Is anyone going to see the facility or anything before they start? The website is advertising a JCHP accepted students open house event on March 14th, and I thought that it might be a good idea to check it out. Anyone going? Might be nice to meet a future classmate or two!
  12. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from VoLiTioN88
    Atomic Woman, I must say that reading your posts have been a huge help while I've been trying to get things ready. Im a college senior, so as I get ready to graduate I am trying to juggle my last semester of undergrad with trying to get all of the necessary "stuff" into Jefferson. I did have a couple questions for you...

    1. Is there a separate financial aid application? Am I supposed to be doing more than filling out my FAFSA? I did that, as I have done now for many years and was wondering if there was more for me to do.

    Yes, there is a separate institutional Financial Aid application, which is in addition to your FAFSA. It's a piece of cake to fill it out online. To me, it looks like a formality. To fill it out, go to banner.jefferson.edu and sign in with your campus key. Click on "Financial Aid" under "Main Menu". Click on "Apply for Financial Aid" and pick the 2009-2010 year. Fill out the Institutional application, the Verification Worksheet and the Stafford Loan Application. All 3 of them are required, and all 3 are pretty much formalities. Make sure you print out a copy of them before you hit SUBMIT, and make sure they are submitted.

    Don't forget to send a copy of your 2008 IRS 1040 and/or your parents' form, if you are considered a dependent, to the financial aid office. That's the last thing you'll need to do to complete your financial aid app., other than making sure the FAFSA goes to Jeff. If you're doing FACT, you can't do work-study, so don't even worry about that form. You may or may not be interested in the Parent non-filing tax form; if you are, submit that one, too.

    Be sure to read the definition of "independent" and "dependent" student, which I think is on the Institutional Financial Aid form (not 100% sure, it might be the Verification Form), because that will tell you what documentation you have to submit (i.e., do you have to submit parent tax returns).


    Just wanted to add that I THINK FACT people can't do Work-Study, but I'm saying that because they "strongly discourage" students working while in the program. But since you are applying to be a resident, that may not be true. Don't take my word for it -- call the Financial Aid office and ask them. Or just fill out the form anyway.

    2. Is anyone going to live in Jefferson housing? Im from New Hampshire, but am completing my undergrad in NJ- I have been a resident assistant at my current school for years and am interviewing for a similar position at Jefferson, but am unsure of how many applicants there are. The housing fees on the Jefferson website are a convoluted mess and I was wondering if anyone had any insight into that. I was told I was "guaranteed" housing, but I am unsure of what that means (a box?)

    I don't know anything about Jefferson housing. Other people on this board may be able to tell you. I will tell you that a friend of mine lived in Jeff housing for a year and got out of it. She said that between the partying and the false fire alarms going off at 2:00 AM (necessitating a walk down the many flights of stairs between the ground and her room), she never got a good night's sleep. She was not in the nursing program, so I don't know if housing for nursing students is any different. Like I said, others may know. It probably depends on what type of housing you're in.

    3. Do I need my car since Ill be living in Philly? My car is not the most reliable piece of machinery ever, and I was wondering if I should unload my car and look into a low-cost lease so I would have something reliable to drive. I'd rather just go without, but don't want to find myself having placements in NJ and no way to get there.

    This is the question that comes up over and over. (Read the Drexel ACE thread and you'll see it there, too.) Parking in center city Philly is terrible and expensive, like any big city. I have my own car, but I'll be taking the train in from NJ as much as possible. I've heard that students do carpool to clinicals, but I don't have any personal experience with that. You might want to ditch the car for now and ask around experienced students once you get there. Remember we have a month or so (are you doing FACT? I'm not 100% sure whether you are) of 5 days a week at Jefferson before we start clinicals, so you have time to figure out what you want to do.

    You may want to check out Phillycarshare.org, just to get a feel for their rates. They have lots of cars within a short distance of Jeff (do a search on their site and enter an address like 1020 Locust or something like that.) If you drive more than 2 times a month, they say their Advantage plan is better than the Basic plan:

    http://www.phillycarshare.org/

    4. I noticed that the FACT students can complete their MSN in one additional calendar year, is that really plausible with working? It doesn't look like it would be too overwhelming on paper, I just was wondering if people really do complete the program as advertised. My plan was to do the adult nurse practitioner option, is it possible to work and get the clinical time needed for that program completed?

    I've been told (by an administrator at Jeff) that it's "possible", but that most students don't do it. In general, they work for 6 months or so before continuing on with their MSN. However, with the job market for new grads being so crappy, I'm betting a lot more people are seriously considering just going on for their master's once they finish the BSN. In that sense, the FACT program CAN BE like any other direct-entry MSN (all of which require you to get your BSN/RN in the first part of the program. All of the programs I've looked at, that is.) Again, this is something you'll have a much better feel for once you're in the program and can talk to some "been there and done that" people.

    Is anyone going to see the facility or anything before they start? The website is advertising a JCHP accepted students open house event on March 14th, and I thought that it might be a good idea to check it out. Anyone going? Might be nice to meet a future classmate or two!

    I am undecided about the Accepted Students event. I went last year, and it was OK -- saw the classrooms, etc. -- but not exciting. However, at that time I was going to do the APW program, so we APWers were mixed in with the other 2-year BSN students. I seem to recall that the FACT people did their tour by themselves, so perhaps they got a chance to meet other FACTers ahead of time. Maybe someone who's already in the program can give us more guidance there...
    Good luck! See you soon at Jeff! And remember to breathe...
  13. by   VoLiTioN88
    Thanks for all of your help! It's funny, I can post a question to this discussion board and get an answer overnight, but emailing anyone at the school yields a vague response, if any. I am doing the FACT program and considering the current job market, I believe that I will probably just plan on jumping in feet first and continuing on with my MSN. I'm one of those "lets rip the band-aid off and get it over with" kind of people.

    The other comments I thoroughly enjoyed on this thread were those regarding the statements made by existing nurses and practitioners in the hospital claiming, "You cant become a nurse in a year." I am thoroughly looking forward to those. But hey, that's why we will all have each other, right?

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