How many of you both circulate AND scrub? - page 3

Is it very often that RN's get to scrub in on surgeries, or are the RN's more exclusively becoming circulators while the surg techs take over scrubbing in?... Read More

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    Aubgurl, don't take it too personal. Scrubs have their place in the business of hospitals but an RN will always be the go to in a pinch. If I have two applicants, one scrub and one RN that scrubs.... I hire the RN that scrubs. This is a nursing forum so these are the types of answers you get, that's just life. If I was in a surg tech forum I would expect you all to talk about how you don't need RNs and are way better than any of us.

    Techs were not always around, it was traditionally a nursing job and I see it swinging more and more back in that direction. I for one will keep training every nurse I hire throughout my career how to scrub.
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    Quote from aubgurl

    I disagree. First of all, I'm a scrub and my circulator runs only on rare occasions. I know my cases inside and out and I am prepared. I think nurses need to scrub to see what it's like: Standing under the hot lights, lifting the heavy trays, holding a leg for 3 hours on a patient who weighs 300 lbs. and we have some nurses who scrub who NEVER have what they need. The circulator is running the whole case. So, just because it's a nurse doesn't make them a better scrub.
    If you read what I said I clearly said I used to be a scrub. I'm a nurse that has to scrub too. So I do scrub and see what it's like. However I will be the first to tell you that I loathe scrubbing. I hate standing in one place for too long, but it's the only way to truly know the case. I also want to point out that I said there are a few techs I'd rather work with over some nurses who scrub. The problem is that nurses are scrubbed so rarely because of techs. I once heard of a hospital that only used nurses and no techs at all and had lower infection rates etc. another problem is that people get pigeon holed into one specialty with one dr and when a trauma comes or your case is switched up you are literally screwed cuz the pref cards are never up to date. Anyway I wasn't knocking techs. I used to be one. But I was pointing out that nurses who scrub know what it's like to circulate and tend to be nicer to each other during the case. For example: I don't throw my sponges off if I have space to separate them so the circulator can clearly see without having to bend over thirty times to bag them (on small cases that aren't very bloody and are quick) because I know the circulator is running and trying to get computer and specimens etc done. Techs always throw sponges no matter what. That's just one example but my point is RN scrub and RN circulators know how it feels to be in both positions. I'm not knocking techs. I'm closer with some of my techs than I am with the RNs. So I'm sure you are amazing at your job. Have a great day.
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    LandD,

    That drives me nuts when the scrub (be it nurse or tech) calls for a count then throws off 4 out of the 5 laps they have on the field!!!! Agrrrr!! I too used to be a tech and I have to say it is a whole different perspective. When I was a scrub I used to look at the circulating nurse and, if I'm honest, I bought into the clichés about what the circulating nurse does (or doesn't do). The reality is far from the perception and I actually look forward to scrubbing on occasion because it feels like a break from the stress of circulating.
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    Quote from TakeTwoAspirin
    LandD,

    That drives me nuts when the scrub (be it nurse or tech) calls for a count then throws off 4 out of the 5 laps they have on the field!!!! Agrrrr!! I too used to be a tech and I have to say it is a whole different perspective. When I was a scrub I used to look at the circulating nurse and, if I'm honest, I bought into the clichés about what the circulating nurse does (or doesn't do). The reality is far from the perception and I actually look forward to scrubbing on occasion because it feels like a break from the stress of circulating.
    That is very true! Scrubbing does give you a break and I've been in situations where people do that to me too. (Throw 500 sponges and tap their foot waiting for a count) lol I usually comment some smart a*% thing and get on with it. Haha but for the most part our OR people all work well together and if we don't...management knows it and won't put us in the same room. oh the culture of the OR or any nursing unit
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    I'm a Surgical Technologist (working on becoming an RN) and our staff has more RNs so we have a lot of nurses who scrub. Some nurses primarily scrub and hardly circulate at all because of their preference and we are short on scrubs. Our nurses learn to scrub in their orientation so we have a lot who go back and forth a lot.
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    I scrub and circulate and in my current OR, they do utilize me to scrub, which I like.
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    I work at a level one trauma hospital and the majority of the staff are rn's who scrub and circulate, however we do have some ST. As rn's in the or there is no "I just scrub" or "I can only circulate". With OR experience or not we all go through our orientation learning how to do both through each service and are expected to do both after orientation.
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    Depends on the facility, RN's routinely scrubbed where I worked.
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    It's funny. We have more techs than nurses right now in our main OR (techs were hired to save money rather than hire more nurses), so whoever can circulate does, but we have a new policy that new RNs who don't have a BSN can only scrub. Interesting, considering we frequently have to rely on travelers.... our cardiothoracic OR and women's surgery, which are in different buildings to the main and ASC ORs, often have RNs scrubbing in. It's a shame, too, since I've heard from many an RN who wished they could scrub more so they could learn the cases better.
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    I'm starting NS this Spring and want to be an OR nurse. Don't you need experience in both circulating and scrubbing in order to get the CNOR? Why would a facility not give their nurses the opportunity to earn their certification?


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