university of phoenix RN and clinicals??? - page 4

Hey i am thinking about taking the rn program at university of phoenix right now i am only a cna i talked to the school today and they said i can take the hole rn program there and in about 4 years i can get my bachelors rn and i... Read More

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    Quote from alyCNA
    i was just wanting to know if anyone has heard of this the school told me I could finish with a degree in 3 1/2 years but getting clinicals in was up to me i would have to set up with the state boad and i have never heard of anyone doing this program. i called the school just to see about doing my prereqs online and going to ivy tech for the program but i do work 12 hour days at aa nursing home and i just want to go further but no where to start and no where to go.....just so confused
    I would never go to a school that made me set up clinicals.

    Ok, there are 2 hospital based programs, 1 BSN program, and 1 community college ADN program, along with 2 for profit schools in the area. I know the 2 for profit schools cannot get into the hospitals because the hospitals have enough students to worry about with the above schools.

    I don't see how any online student could get in clinicals, unless you wanted to do them all in a nursing home, which just really isn't good enough experience. Students need variety.

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    The Frontline piece was fascinating.

    It was pretty fair, the conclusion seems to be that while there are clearly many cases of predatory and unethical activities, the for-profits serve a purpose.

    I have to confess to a certain prejudice against for-profit education, this video changed my opinion a bit but it also underlined the need to be careful before making any investment and making sure you check out the institution.

    And always remember that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

    As for the OP, if the clinical rotation information is not clearly outlined or at least accessible from the college, walk away, look elsewhere.
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    The reason the clinical would be up to you is quite simple: no local hospitals are accepting the education that you receive from UOP for RN and being legit. Not to knock the school as a whole or for that matter the RN to BSN programs. ITT Tech has the same issue with their new RN programs. Hospitals do not care where you get your BSN because it has nothing to do with license. Sorry if any of you are upset about being fed a line of bull from the salesmen (I mean recruiters) from UOP.
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    Watched the Frontline video and it made me sick for those students who have LVN degrees that are useless because the school did no clinical training on real patients. They are in 30K in debt and can't possibly pay it back.
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    It does sound like these "for profit" schools are perfect if you want to be a welder though. I will give them that.
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    I actually earned my BS degree (non-nursng) online so I thought I would chime in.

    First off, no nursing program is 100% online due to the clinicals. Also, since when does Univ. of Phoenix admit non RNs into their BSN programs? Virtually all online nursing programs are in the RN-BSN format, meaning you must be a licensed RN on day 1.

    Also, don't think that online programs are easy. Before deciding on nursing, I was taking an online accounting class with a major public university in the northwest, and I dropped it. It was not only hard, but VERY boring.
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    Quote from JROregon
    Watched the Frontline video and it made me sick for those students who have LVN degrees that are useless because the school did no clinical training on real patients. They are in 30K in debt and can't possibly pay it back.
    If those students passed the NCLEX, then their degree is not useless. Do you know what they call students who graduate from third tier medical schools? DOCTOR.
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    "It is a reality that many hospitals and medical centers do not recognized many online nursing courses due to the issue of accreditation and rigid requirements for the minimal requirements for practice."

    You can't bash online programs for their accredidation. Many community colleges lack NLN and CCNE accredidation. Wouldn't you rather go to an online school like Excelsior that is NLN accredited than a campus program that has neither accredidation?
    RubyLVN and FullMoonNurse like this.
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    Quote from Donald11
    If those students passed the NCLEX, then their degree is not useless. Do you know what they call students who graduate from third tier medical schools? DOCTOR.
    It is useless when the facilities where they go to find a job ask them about their clinical experience and the women have to say that they got their pediatric experience at a daycare. If you have an LVN degree and the only job you can get is flipping burgers, your degree ain't worth $30k. Sorry.
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    Quote from Donald11
    "It is a reality that many hospitals and medical centers do not recognized many online nursing courses due to the issue of accreditation and rigid requirements for the minimal requirements for practice."

    You can't bash online programs for their accredidation. Many community colleges lack NLN and CCNE accredidation. Wouldn't you rather go to an online school like Excelsior that is NLN accredited than a campus program that has neither accredidation?
    I believe CCNE only accredits BSN and above programs. There are PLENTY of community colleges that are NLN accredited--just search their website. And no, I would not go to an unaccredited college due to the possibility of future employers or schools I would like to further my education at not accepting my degree.

    EDIT: I haven't watched the documentary but I know that employers in my area prefer new grads from certain schools over others. If a school was known for turning out unprepared students, I can see how using the degree locally would be near impossible.


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