Grand canyon University

[roseonye]

Hi all. i recently applied with GCU for the RN-BSN online. this is what the nice lady emailed me.Highlights include:

• No clinical rotation or mandatory outside group work
  
• Flexible schedule that allows you to attend classes based onyour availability
  
• No pre-requisites or co-requisites required, which means no chemistry or college algebra
  
• Theoretical-based curriculum (reading, research and papers)
  
• Limited, if any, tests or quizzes
  

This is too good to be true. Any graduates from GCU out there? also how long is the program approximately? thanks

[pandorasbox]

1wellnessnurse -- is the stats course totally geared toward healthcare professionals? If you don't mind me asking, what did not go right the first time you attempted the course?

As you can see from other posters and myself, this particular course is the one that seems to induce the most anxiety in the whole program. If you had to do it all over again as a first time taker of stats, how would you prepare?

Any info/insight is much appreciated!

[1wellnessnurse]

I struggled, just because it had been a really long time since I took a math class.

The class was called “Applied Statistics for Health Care Professionals”. Unfortunately I did not save the syllabus for the class.

Here's the thing with statistics, you have to master each lesson/ chapter before you move on to the next. It is really easy to fall behind. So if you find that you are confused by something, don't skip it. Your best bet is to use a study group.

The way I did it was to trade my homework with a classmate and go over it (over the phone). She explained the parts she got right and I explained the parts that I understood.

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

@tokmom and centered rn, I haven't posted enough to be able to PM.

For statistics, I continued the class work even after dropping (for practice, not a score). I had family help correct my homework. The tests are on line and once you submit them, you get an instant score so you can see what you need to work on. I took all 5 tests right before I dropped the class. This way I knew exactly what to study for the second time around.

If you need to drop a class, just talk to your enrollment counselor.

So you get an instant score and that's the final grade, correct? If you go back and work on what you got wrong, do you get any extra credit?

I have seen the description of the class and it says it's introductory to descriptive statitics, t,z, chi square , analysis of variance, expermental design, graphical presentation, sampling methods, regression.

Do those ring a bell?

What happens if you fail/drop? Do you take it back to back to the failed class or do you go through the end and retake it?

Are the tests based on homework?

I'm assuming they are open book?

Are they untimed or timed?

Sorry to be such a pain, but like pandorasbox said, this is anxiety inducing!

[1wellnessnurse]

@tokmom relax! You will be ok, just take it one step at a time. I got derailed because I was in my last round of chemo and it got really hard to concentrate. The school has resources to keep you on track. I took the extra math tutoring that was available. You should be able to access the math self-tutoring modules right now.

To answer some of your questions:

Yes it sounds like we are talking about the same class.

If you fail/drop the class you can't go through to the end. You will no longer have access to the class. So download the syllabus right away.

The tests are multiple choice with instant scoring. It will show you which problems you missed and the correct answer. I don't think they are timed and yes you can use an open book. However most of the questions test your ability to solve equations.

There was no extra credit when I took it.

From what I remember, the tests seemed to be based on the homework and not all of the homework was from the book. The concepts were in the book.

Get a smart study partner. You can do it!

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

@tokmom relax! You will be ok, just take it one step at a time. I got derailed because I was in my last round of chemo and it got really hard to concentrate. The school has resources to keep you on track. I took the extra math tutoring that was available. You should be able to access the math self-tutoring modules right now.

To answer some of your questions:

Yes it sounds like we are talking about the same class.

If you fail/drop the class you can't go through to the end. You will no longer have access to the class. So download the syllabus right away.

The tests are multiple choice with instant scoring. It will show you which problems you missed and the correct answer. I don't think they are timed and yes you can use an open book. However most of the questions test your ability to solve equations.

There was no extra credit when I took it.

From what I remember, the tests seemed to be based on the homework and not all of the homework was from the book. The concepts were in the book.

Get a smart study partner. You can do it!

Thank you. This does help give me an idea of what lies ahead! When you retook it, was it back to back?

I hope I do ok. The entire class gives me a serious ulcer and I haven't even started!

Hugs to you and chemo. What a trooper.

[beppieRN]

HI there... I am considering GCU for my RN-BSN. I took a math statistics class at a local CC many, many years ago. Do you know if there is a time requirement? Meaning do I have to have taken the class within the past 5 years or something like that? If I have to retake it because it isn't a healthcare stats class then so be it... but would sure be great if I didn't have to!

Also, I would LOVE to hear from RN to BSN grads what the program ended up costing them in the end.

[1wellnessnurse]

beppieRN,

When I took the RN - BSN at GCU they took my AS credits and signed me up for the classes listed on the website. Registered Nurse to Bachelor of Science in Nursing (RN to BSN) | Grand Canyon University

I'm working on my MSN (leadership focus) at GCU at the moment (one more class after this one).

Under disclosures it says:

Tuition and fees: $42,400

Books and supplies: $2,830

(I think I paid closer to $20,000 for the undergrad degree). I love the online classrooms. My employer has an agreement with GCU (10% tuition reduction) and I'm in NJ. GCU is recognized, accredited, and very doable with a full time job. Oh, their online library is awesome!

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

beppieRN,

When I took the RN - BSN at GCU they took my AS credits and signed me up for the classes listed on the website. Registered Nurse to Bachelor of Science in Nursing (RN to BSN) | Grand Canyon University

I'm working on my MSN (leadership focus) at GCU at the moment (one more class after this one).

Under disclosures it says:

Tuition and fees: $42,400

Books and supplies: $2,830

(I think I paid closer to $20,000 for the undergrad degree). I love the online classrooms. My employer has an agreement with GCU (10% tuition reduction) and I'm in NJ. GCU is recognized, accredited, and very doable with a full time job. Oh, their online library is awesome!

42k for a RN-BSN? I'm a tad under 18,000!

How is the MSN program? Is it set up like the RN-BSN? Just as many papers and such? I'm in the capstone at this time for the BSN. I doubt I would do the MSN, because I have no idea what I would do with it, lol.

beppiern:

There is a bunch of us over here:

https://allnurses.com/nursing-online-distance/rn-bsn-grand-854234.html

[MereSanity]

beppieRN,

When I took the RN - BSN at GCU they took my AS credits and signed me up for the classes listed on the website. Registered Nurse to Bachelor of Science in Nursing (RN to BSN) | Grand Canyon University

I'm working on my MSN (leadership focus) at GCU at the moment (one more class after this one).

Under disclosures it says:

Tuition and fees: $42,400

Books and supplies: $2,830

(I think I paid closer to $20,000 for the undergrad degree). I love the online classrooms. My employer has an agreement with GCU (10% tuition reduction) and I'm in NJ. GCU is recognized, accredited, and very doable with a full time job. Oh, their online library is awesome!

I am looking at them for my MSN but the disclosure states $18900. I wonder why there is such a difference between the programs?

[1wellnessnurse]

I'm not sure why there is such a cost difference.

I have run into a bump in the road for my last class. Right now I am finishing up my capstone research project. The only class I have left is the practicum, which involves 150 hours of interning under a masters prepared RN in a management position. This one is four months. Finding an occupational health nurse mentor that is geographically close, with those credentials, is proving very difficult. The school has not been much of a help. They thought I was specialized in occupational "therapy" and were only able to find someone out on Long Island (2 hour drive and $24 in tolls). Aside from not being in my field, that mentor was too far away.

My point is that you have to be good at networking on your own or be in a more common specialty.

I'm a little frustrated with the lack of help from the school, especially now that I'm on the last part of the program.

[tokmom, BSN, RN]

I think that would be the challenging part of an online program, is finding your own resources. How often do you have to collaborate with the preceptor? Lastly, how could gcu screw up the fact that they assumed you were going to precept with an OT? That makes no sense whatsoever! I have no idea where I would even find a masters prepared occupational health nurse!!

How long is the capstone and overall, how is the masters program at gcu?

[1wellnessnurse]

The capstone is an 8 week project. It's about a 5,000 word paper (not including appendices etc.) that includes a short presentation outlining the project. I like the way they set up this class. Each week we do a section of the paper and submit it. The last week of class we compile all the submissions, make our edits, and submit the final paper. They really walk you through it step by step. So far it isn't as terrible as my capstone for my BSN (which ended up being 35 pages total and truly exhausting). Maybe I'm just getting better at writing papers.

The MSN program is about 2 years. If you look at the outline of courses, each one is 2 months and the practicum is 4 months. I can't wait to be done.