nurse to patient ratio laws ohio - page 2

How many nurses or family members of loved ones are comfortable with the current laws governing the nurse to patient ratios. Especially in long term care facilities? Any thoughts or ideas are very... Read More

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    From what I've learned with the NAR and various research sources, as well as my training as a CNA, we were told, and I have found, that there is a legal maximum of 15 patients per aide -- I'm not sure of what the regulations are regarding LPN/RN's in LTC. . . but I think that 15 as an aide is unsafe -- especially during day shift -- let alone 25 -- I'd NOT take liability for more that 15 patients -- because then my licensure ( as little as it may be ) is also on the line . . . and I'm open to civil action.

    I think 50 patients for an LPN OR RN is just absolutely ridiculous -- I don't know if that statistic is current, but, if it is, you should contact the Ohio based groups for the improvement of nursing care and long term facilities, and persuade them to alter that. I've written everybody I could think of, on the state level regarding this, including civil action groups, state representatives from my birth town, my home town, and my residence town. . . as well as my family and friends, the ONHA. . . . I think 15 is too many, let alone 25 for a CNA, and I think, with the stress that I see an LPN dealing with when having 35 residents, I'd say. . . probably no more than 25 to ensure the best possible care -- but, my field is CNA/STNA, so, with activism, I stick to that, and the general improvements relating to the nursing field.

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    The facility I work at just took away the attends. THey only get 4 a day and if they run out...oh too bad. :angryfire And they wonder why we have have 4 new skin breakdowns in a month?!?
    I am stressed to the limit with 13 on one floor and 17 on the other. Each floor (2 North and 3 North) by themselves is okay. But together they demand all of your time. I pass pills for 5 hours of an 8 hour shift. I hate it. I don't feel like I am giving quality patient care anymore.:stone
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    well I put in my 2 week d/t this very reason The LTC I work for is trying to run 1 nurse for 47 residents on 2p-10p shift and management simply stated that they were "allowed 1 nurse to 50 residents" Well they may be "allowed", but trying to find nurses to put their licenses on the line and compromise the care and well being of our older generation might be another thing.This nurse is saying NO!!!...its not fair to nurses and it sure is NOT fair to our residents or their family members who depend on us to give their loved ones the best possible care we can provide.I just wonder how far the numbers have to go before someone intervenes. God Bless all the nurses!!!
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    Quote from LPN2BSN
    I work LTC as a charge nurse. I run two floors, I have 30 residents. I have been told that Ohio says max. is 1 LPN to 50 Res. and 2 CNA for 50. I could not imagine having the care of 50 people! I think that is dangerous and I am not willing to put my license on the line for that.

    I'm an IN LPN, I work 3rd and have 50 residents and two aides, but if one calls off, and they do, I get no replacement. 15 am blood sugars! This is damn hard!
    We need staffing ratio laws so we can properly care for people!
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    I feel lucky. I work in assisted living, second shift. We have two seperate units. One for "regular" assisted living residents, and a secure Alzheimer/Dementia unit. While the "regular" folks require little, if any care, i'm responsible for 18 alzheimer residents that i care for the same as in a LTC setting. The bad thing is, if something in the regular assisted living unit goes awry, i'm the only nurse there, I have to deal with it. So technically, I'm responsible for 25 in one unit, and 18 in the other.
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    I feel lucky just to have 18 rsndts on my 2nd shift at a ltc facility. Of course until we only have 3 aides for my hall and the hall that has 20 rsdts then i have to become an aide too just so all the work is done that way the next shift can't say that we are slacking in any way. I about died when i found out the ratio is 1-50!!!!:angryfire I think the answer is simple, lets take the people that came up with this stupid ratio and put them in a brief, stick them in a bed, and tell them they have to wait because there isn't enough people working that day to change them so they have to sit in their urine until it's their turn.:angryfire
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    In ohio, nurse ratio is 1:50. YES, 1:50! I'm not sure on CNA's. We have 1:36 where I work(in LTC), and that is every shift. The dayturn 9 am med pass starts at 7:30am and ends around 11:30am.

    Thank goodness I work midnights.
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    I work at a hospital in Southern Ohio. The med-surg floor that I work on has a nurse patient ration of 1:6-7. Most of the time there are 6 teams and 4 nursing assistants or LPN/RN doing patient care. What we need is for each patient to have an acuity number. When you have a hourly finger stick, a CBI, and someone in Resp distress and a new surgery patient all at once, it makes for a verrrrrrrry long 12 hour shift. It is dangerous.
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    Well I just graduated from nursing school last month and I got my license about a week ago and the LTCF where I am want me to do a 50 person med pass. Needless to say I'm looking for another job.
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    I have worked LTC for years. Have worked as staff nurse and agency nurse. It is not uncommon to have 50 residents on the 7p-7a shift. We are still responsible to pass night and morning meds and also treatments. It is a non stop job. A few who can not hold up ( alot of stress) but the rewards from the residents who become like family are lasting. I would rather see it down around 30 or less. But until state steps in the facilities will not. All staff are counted in the ratio of 15:1

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