The Circumcision Discussion - page 92

I know this can be a HUGE debate, and I'm not looking to start any arguments. I was just wondering as you are OB nurses. I'm expecting a boy in July and not sure if we should circ. or not. My... Read More

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    Quote from libnat
    Male circumcision could significantly reduce the burden of HIV, study suggests.

    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5165118.stm
    if you had been with us for this entire thread you would know that this study had already been blown out of the water by one of our posters.....simple statistical analysis......look back, if you care, you will find it.....
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  3. Visit  consult2} profile page
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    "Looks, circumcised looks better"
    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on May 19, '09 : Reason: pm to member
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  4. Visit  consult2} profile page
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    "there was a poll i might search for later with the majority of american female respondents saying they preferred the look of circ, apparently agreeing with me but either way my kid, my look preference."

    wow, what arrogance harming infants for something as shallow as a brainwashed prejudice.
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    Quote from libnat
    Male circumcision could significantly reduce the burden of HIV, study suggests.

    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5165118.stm
    COULD, but doesn't--the empirical evidence in the real world, blows this nonsense right out of the water--Just compare at the rates of HIV between circumcising and intact countries--the cut rates are much higher than the intact rates.

    Try again.
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    Quote from Smurfette752
    morte....and it is so true....once you've had it.....you don't want it any other way! LOL
    Better one--Once you get intact, you never go back!
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    Quote from libnat
    Yeah but he might just want to get laid......
    Somehow the human race has survived all these millenia, and seeing that most of the human race leaves their boys' penises alone, I don't think he'll have a problem getting it when he wants it. And, since the circ rate is dropping in this country too, he'll be in good company. I ain't cuttin' my boy's winky just because everybody else does it or because 'everybody else' likes it.
    Last edit by Elvish on May 19, '09
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    Consult2,
    Thank you for clarifying the medication type and also for all the interesting articles. Again, I am only a nursing student I don't claim to know everything, which was WELL stated. As you are certainly entitled to your opinion, so am I and I'd just like to ask you didn't you EVER make mistakes in nursing school, say something wrong, get a wrong answer, LEARN SOMETHING NEW? You didn't have to rip me apart. Why is it that experienced nurses eat their young? You could have certainly taught me something and gotten your point across without being so rude. Congradulations your long winded e-mail was read and heard! Remember, you were in my shoes once too. I really wanted to be an OB nurse because I so enjoyed my own birthing experiences, then when I went to do my rotation almost all the labor and delivery nurses ended up having the same attitude as you, I don't know if you are attempting to DISCOURAGE me... if that is the case it just reminded me of the kind of nurse I DON'T want to be. Oh, and I'm not a liar, I saw what I saw, the baby SLEPT... YES THAT'S RIGHT DEFYING YOUR ARTICLES AND ALL... the baby SLEPT through his circumcision. One positive thing I can say for you is at least your compassionate about something even if it's not people.
  9. Visit  brillohead} profile page
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    Quote from libnat
    Looks, circumcised looks better.

    Then you must not know how to properly stimulate a male, because I've seen both kinds, and once it's erect, you can't tell the difference.
    Last edit by Elvish on May 19, '09 : Reason: poster PMed
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    Quote from Smurfette752
    Common in THIS country.....because in this country all people care about is aesthetics, and imposing their beliefs on a helpless baby who would surely tell the doctor or rabbi to get the F away from him!
    Also, the biggest reason it stays in this country is because of the greedy, money hungry doctors who don't want to loose money.
    How much is a family charged for circs done in hospital? How much goes to the doctor?
    Many years ago, it was $35. I guess it's more, now that anaesthesia is used.......
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  11. Visit  lamazeteacher} profile page
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    Quote from Elvish
    If any girl rejects my son because of his foreskin, she is probably not the kind I'd want for him anyway.
    If you let your son know about the above viewpoint, that's who he'll bring home!
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    Quote from lamazeteacher
    If you let your son know about the above viewpoint, that's who he'll bring home!
    He's 4....so hopefully he won't be bringing anyone home for a while. But I do encourage him to be happy with who he is, and people who respect themselves tend not to put up with superficiality like 'not liking' him because he has a foreskin.
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    Quote from lamazeteacher
    How much is a family charged for circs done in hospital? How much goes to the doctor?
    Many years ago, it was $35. I guess it's more, now that anaesthesia is used.......
    I can't figure out of you are for or against by that statement....hahaha

    But it is a multi-million dollar "business" doctors and hospitals would loose a significant amount of money if everyone stopped circ'ing, and they know this...

    and even if it is still $35, think about how many circ's they do in one month (depending on the hospital, obviously) that is an awful lot of money.
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  14. Visit  consult2} profile page
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    "Thank you for clarifying the medication type and also for all the interesting articles. Again, I am only a nursing student I don't claim to know everything, which was WELL stated. As you are certainly entitled to your opinion, so am I and I'd just like to ask you didn't you EVER make mistakes in nursing school, say something wrong, get a wrong answer, LEARN SOMETHING NEW?"

    By no means was I trying to discourage you, or dump on you.. most people who have been here for a while know that I am facts and evidence oriented, and don't waste much time in presenting things other than short comments. I am sorry if this shortness came through as an attack, I was attacking the information, not you.

    If you choose to disregard the evidence against sleeping, that is something I have no control over--believe it if it makes you feel better. By all means, continue with your training, but also be good enough to discard your prejudices when the evidence clearly contradicts it--THEN you will be a good nurse. A good nurse is one who has a healthy degree of skepticism.

    Good luck,


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