The Circumcision Discussion

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I wish I had that power but we can all only do so much. Many of you who post here are in a unique position to help and it is really only through those in the medical community that we will succeed in ending routing circumcision. So I hope everyone does at least a little something as often as they can. Learn more, educate others, and talk about it make people look at this from a rational and ethical perspectives.

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tpanative

57 Posts

I'm 33 now but I asked my mom sometime in HS why she and dad decided to have me circumsized vs. leaving the decision up to me later in life. She told me it basically "what people did" back then.

Having had an uncut bf I can guarantee you the sensation is better for them. I wish I still had my foreskin!!

consult2

67 Posts

"Having had an uncut bf I can guarantee you the sensation is better for them. I wish I still had my foreskin!!"

Of course intact men are more sensitive and have more sensation. It is completely irrational to think one can remove most of the penile nerves (and nearly all of the specialized ones) and have the remaining nerves covered with keratinization--and there be no loss of sensitivity and sensation.

pooptacular

55 Posts

yeah yeah, it's all been said, but why would you cut off a perfectly good chunk of skin off your CHILD?! your BABY?

(btw, if i were a mom, i would try to avoid watching procedures done to my child- iv, catheter, etc., but i believe these parents should watch and empathize with that child!)

now, my mother chose against having my 3 brothers circumcised. they are all quite glad!

as for the "getting teased"?!, who wasn't teased in school? i'll make sure my kid is wearing the best clothes and always has the hottest girlfriend to make sure he doesn't get teased. ooh...i'll get him an escort for prom too, don't want him to look unpopular. let's build some character!

granted, i have NO desire to have kids, but my current bf is, of course, cut. he adamantly wants our "hypothetical" son to look like him. yeah, it's a pointless argument, but whatever. his MAN reason is purely aesthetic though!

just to throw some fuel on the fire- i also would not pierce my infant's ears.

p.s. this point is completely moot for me b/c i yearn for a barren sterile existence! :wink2:

AirforceRN, RN

611 Posts

Oh boy...just when you thought the discussion was over with...this was just published in the New England Journal of Med. according to a news release by the Canadian Broadcasting Corperation...

"SASKATCHEWAN (CBC) - Circumcision helps protect heterosexual men against genital herpes and a virus that causes genital warts and cancer but has no effect on the bacteria that causes syphilis, two trials in Uganda show."

See the story here: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/03/25/circumcision-herpes-hpv.html

Take note..."Trials in Uganda show..."

Joe12

39 Posts

as for the "getting teased"?!, who wasn't teased in school? i'll make sure my kid is wearing the best clothes and always has the hottest girlfriend to make sure he doesn't get teased. ooh...i'll get him an escort for prom too, don't want him to look unpopular. let's build some character!

granted, i have NO desire to have kids, but my current bf is, of course, cut. he adamantly wants our "hypothetical" son to look like him. yeah, it's a pointless argument, but whatever. his MAN reason is purely aesthetic though!

Here is what I don't understand, why do fathers think it is important to have their son's look like them in this respect. Ask him if he bonded with his father over their memberes. I suspect then answer is no. I think when a man says that it is more for his comfort. This was done to me, there must have been a good reason so it must happen to my son.

Oh boy...just when you thought the discussion was over with...this was just published in the New England Journal of Med. according to a news release by the Canadian Broadcasting Corperation...

"SASKATCHEWAN (CBC) - Circumcision helps protect heterosexual men against genital herpes and a virus that causes genital warts and cancer but has no effect on the bacteria that causes syphilis, two trials in Uganda show."

See the story here: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/03/25/circumcision-herpes-hpv.html

Take note..."Trials in Uganda show..."

Here is what I don't get about this kind of announcement. First, we have a very effective vaccine for HPV so who cares? Second, there have been several studies in the first world that show no significant difference between circumcision and HPV for but also other STDs too. Even if what the propose was in fact true, why does that still require a decision in infancy?

Why is it when those types of results are released, we never hear about it. It seems like every time there is a result in favor of circumcision it is splashed across the news but not the other way around. Why do you think that is?

ETA: Made a correction.

morte, LPN, LVN

7,015 Posts

joe12 sent you a pm

Joe12

39 Posts

joe12 sent you a pm

You're right. :) It's too early, BTW, why can't I PM?

morte, LPN, LVN

7,015 Posts

You're right. :) It's too early, BTW, why can't I PM?

lol, you need 15 posts.....the thought is it cuts down on the "hit and run" sorts...

now address the correction! please? and then you will only need one more post, lol

Specializes in Psych, Med/Surg, LTC.
Here is what I don't understand, why do fathers think it is important to have their son's look like them in this respect. Ask him if he bonded with his father over their memberes. I suspect then answer is no. I think when a man says that it is more for his comfort. This was done to me, there must have been a good reason so it must happen to my son.

Here is what I don't get about this kind of announcement. First, we have a very effective vaccine for HPV so who cares? Second, there have been several studies in the first world that show no significant difference between circumcision and HPV for but also other STDs too. Even if what the propose was in fact true, why does that still require a decision in infancy?

Why is it when those types of results are released, we never hear about it. It seems like every time there is a result in favor of circumcision it is splashed across the news but not the other way around. Why do you think that is?

ETA: Made a correction.

WHY? B/C leaving a boy intact does not make money. Parents like to feel like they are "doing something" vs. "not doing anything". I agree, WHY does it have to be done in infancy? What if they are going to be a priest and never have sex? How do you know when they are young? WHY cut something off for really no reason?

meluhn

661 Posts

Specializes in acute rehab, med surg, LTC, peds, home c.

If it was possible, I think any newborn would run screaming into the night when told what was about to happen to him. Most adult guys would not want this so why force it on a newborn? The whole practice is based on archaeic scince/superstition that just kind of stuck.

consult2

67 Posts

""SASKATCHEWAN (CBC) - Circumcision helps protect heterosexual men against genital herpes and a virus that causes genital warts and cancer but has no effect on the bacteria that causes syphilis, two trials in Uganda show."

Gee, whatever happened to simple logic and common sense..BOTH of these are more common in circumcising US than intact countries in Europe. Seems like another silly study out of Africa by Bailey and boys.

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