Retirement in the nursing field. - page 6
There is an issue going on at health care facilities about nurses who are still working as nurses well into their 60's and 70's. Assuming everyone ages differently, consider the effects of aging... Read More
4Feb 13, '13 by roser13, ASNAs OP has not chosen to come back and visit his/her post, I am forced to conclude that the suspicion that he/she was researching a topic for a school paper is likely correct.
Certainly, many responders have given the OP plenty to write about....
Wonder how instructors these days feel about "research" derived from an online forum?
1Feb 13, '13 by marycarneyQuote from jrwestI think you are mistaken about a good many nurses. The ones I know who have remained active into their 70s (and I can name a dozen or so of my acquaintance) do so because they love their jobs, their patients and the mental stimulation of clinical situations. NONE of them work because they 'have to'.I think this is pretty sad. Do any of you really think that someone would want to nurse into their 70's?
They are being forced to. They stay because they have a job. If they quit, no- one is going to hire them in any capacity of any kind. Not even Burger King.
And if a person doesn't qualify for benefits yet, what are they supposed to do?
By the time my age group comes to retirement , the age will be upped to 70. And if I continue under the stress I ( or any of my co-workers) are at, we won't have to worry about retiring/living til 70 .
And I'm sure the government will be happy to not have to pay.
I am 57 and have ZERO plans to retire. I just completed my MSN and yesterday passed the CCRN Pediatric exam for the first time. There are PLENTY of reasons to stay active and remain employed. A paycheck is only one of them.
2Feb 13, '13 by silverbat, ASN, RN<<<Even handicapped nurses, of any age, who can not walk well, can occasionally find areas of nursing where they can still nurse.[/QUOTE]>>
As a nurse in my med-50's with severe arthritis and using a cane to ambulate because of "not being able to walk well'...I betcha I can work rings around you any day!! I may be slower getting somewhere, but there ain't a thing I am unable to do when I get there and my 20+ years of nursing are sure gonna help me when I do arrive!!
That being said, I know there will come a day when I may not be able to do the job that I love to do and will have to go to a less ambulatory type position and I will do so when that time comes, until then.............
I have taught CPR as well for 5 years and, no, I don't crawl around on the floor, but I can CPR with the best of them...ask my ER triage/Code blue team!!!
Sorry, but this just pushed my buttons.. I hate it when sterotyping goes on.
0Feb 13, '13 by pgrn33Remember 30 years ago and there were questions about how old is too old for a hip replacement or a valve replacement? The answer was invariably, it depends on the patient. The same holds true for nursing retirement...it depends on the nurse! No, there should not be mandatory retirement requirements for nurses. Yes there should be supportive transition for nurses getting close to retirement. I am 60 and plan on working full time for 7 more years and part time after that as long as my body and mind are willing.
2Feb 13, '13 by mingjal935I am 70 years of age. On the 12 December 2012 I received my Bachelor of Nursing degree from QUT here is Australia. I intend to take up full-time nursing and will retire when I reach somewhere between 85 and 95 years of age. At seventy I consider myself fit, strong and intelligent. People should get away from the false idea that people loose intellectual capability as they get older. Modern day research has demonstrated that as we age our brains still generate new neurons. It has been demonstrated that older people are slower at learning.However, it has also been demonstrate that older people have an elevated retention rate. The best nurses are those with maturity as their lives are rich in experience.
1Feb 13, '13 by pgrn33Yes, I know several people, including myself, that love their jobs! Saying that 70 year old's are not hiring material is just BS...Please do not put us in our graves before we are ready.
60 and loving it!
1Feb 13, '13 by woohQuote from rngolfer53I agree. For myself at least. If I can't do the job, I hope I don't have to do the job. That's why I'm looking to get out of nursing at the bedside, as much as I actually love what I do. (Most days, some days I'm ready to escape asap.)That said, people should recognize their own limitations.
We have to work around our coworkers' limitations. Some because they're "old and slow." Some because they're too overweight to get around. (I'm overweight, but have a coworker that has weight issues that really limit her mobility.) Some are just dumb. Some because they're YOUNG AND PREGNANT and refuse to lift or take a patient with anything the least bit infectious.
Point being: If we're going to start mandating retirement, then let's mandate people not come to work when there's anything at all "wrong" with them, including pregnancy, since some of my coworkers have acted more disabled being pregnant than my old and slow or overweight coworkers or even my ACTUALLY DISABLED coworkers.
It's kind of the, "I didn't say anything when they came for my neighbors, so nobody to say anything when they come for me."
Watch what you wish for, you just might get it, and get it yourself too.Last edit by wooh on Feb 13, '13
1Feb 13, '13 by martymooseI don't mean to "dis" anyone who is over 50, etc( thats about where I am in age). Maybe it's just regional. I know I have a problem hauling the 600 lb ers up in bed,dodging hits from the confused/drug/etoh people, obnoxious litigious families. I'd hate to see someone in their 70's dealing with these things.
Just so I don't appear completely ignorant- my great aunt volunteered at the community hospital until she was 92. But this was back in the 70's- back when people weren't such jerks, and actually slightly respectful of others. This me me me mentality and "I don't care if a code is going on, I'm more important" BS wasnt so rampant as it is now.I seriously doubt she would be able to do this stuff now, and be safe or not disgusted bt the current society.
Aside from that,I do know that people over 40 are not finding jobs of ANY kind (even non-nursing) in my area. Actually, ironically, nursing jobs are one of the few jobs that ARE available in my area.Sure it's due to the high turnover.This is partly why I stay put in a job I abhor.I could go elsewhere; It would be same sheet , different day.
I want to go back to school for something else, but even with a new degree, at my age, no one will hire me.
3Feb 13, '13 by AngelaIsaacsMaticeAs a nurse who has worked in the OR for 30 years, I think we should have the option to retire after 30 years. Teachers are allowed to retire after 30 years of service. My job is physically demanding and I don't know how much longer I can do this. I love my job but I do have trouble hearing and it's really hard to get on the floor and lift the heavy trays. I don't think any person should have to work over 62 unless they want to. I would like to enjoy the years I have left on earth. My institution doesn't honor seniority so getting time off is very difficult esp. being understaffed.
1Feb 13, '13 by holliermomI think that all nurses responsible for safety and care of patients , should be evaluated and judged on their performance, not their age I have been a nurse 40 yrs (58 yrs old) and I sure can keep up with the younger nurses.
2Feb 13, '13 by weesyanneI've seen it. We had a nurse well into her mid 60's that never sat down and was ALWAYS, ALWAYS way ahead of any younger nurses.
Please don't generalize.
6Feb 14, '13 by HazeKompSo basically, should age alone be a requirement for retirement?
Simple answer: No.
As per others' comments, ability to give safe care is not determined by age, but rather by a multitude of factors. Physically, we older nurses may need more help pushing a bed, but we are also your great resource for challenging situations as we often have "been there, done that" before. It is a trade off.
Yes, I am dog-tired after a busy 12 hour shift...but so is everyone else.
Yes, I will probably need hearing aides in <5 years...but so what?
Yes, I wear glasses...but I've been wearing them since age 9!
Yes, I am aware I may not have the best memory...but I've been writing myself notes for 30 years: I LOVE post-its!
Yes, my math skills are awful and I want to have med dosages double-checked with another RN...but I've done this for 30+ years of nursing for patient safety...I flunked Algebra I and barely passed my other math classes, so this is nothing new.
Yes, I appreciate help turning patients and pushing beds...but so do my co-workers!
Do I probably spend more time on my days off "recuperating" than my 20+ year old peers? Yup, I'm positive I do!
Would I like to retire at 65? You bet! I'd love to have time to do more volunteer work, spend time with family, travel, etc.
Can I retire at 65? Nope. I am the sole support of my family, as well as contributing to the expenses of my children and their children on occasion.
Can I retire at 65? Nope. I have NO retirement plan, per se. And my measly 401 K won't last two years. Too many expenses raising a family kept me from major contributions to my own savings. Most teachers, police, firefighters and other service professionals have some kind of retirement plan. My friends who taught in New York have a comfortable life of retirement. I will be moving into my car!
Please do NOT judge people by their age, any more than you would by their color, their religion, etc.
I need my job til at least age 70!
0Feb 14, '13 by martymooseQuote from pgrn33I wasn't referring to your specific situation.I'm guessing you have a job currently. I just was saying that because of the current job markets, people in their 50's are not getting hired- I would imagine in your 70's would be even harder to get hired.Yes, I know several people, including myself, that love their jobs! Saying that 70 year old's are not hiring material is just BS...Please do not put us in our graves before we are ready.
60 and loving it!