Excelsior Pass Rate?

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Does anyone know Excelsior's passing rate? Just curious. tia

Kelly

I took the Sociology CLEP, which I thought was a joke.>>

Can I ask what you used to study with? I am currently studying to CLEP this and Human Growth & Development.

I used Best Test Preparation for the Clep: College-Level Examination Program in Introductory Sociology (Clep Series) by William Egelman, Research and Education Association. It is available on Amazon if you type in "sociology clep".I read through it a couple times and went through the questions a couple times. You are looking at two or three days of studying at the most. That was the easiest 3 credits I ever received.

Specializes in Psychiatry.

I used Best Test Preparation for the Clep: College-Level Examination Program in Introductory Sociology (Clep Series) by William Egelman, Research and Education Association.>>

Okay, thanks. This is what I have and I bought their Human Growth & Development one also.

Kelly

:balloons: I went to Excelsior when it was the University of the State of New York and graduated in 1988. I was the first person out of the NCLEX and received a very high score. The school has high standards and requires a lot more studying then other ADN programs. The clinical exam was also very challenging and had very strict criteria to pass. I went on to get a BS in 1999 when it was called Regents College. I now have a nursing license in 2 states & one in the UK. Even though I heard some states are trying not to allow people who graduated from their to practice. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb! With the nursing shortage being so severe I dont know where any state would get the idea that they are picking and choosing. Oh well we can always get foreign grads that have a 10% passing rate on the boards. Excelsior has just as good if not better passing rate on the boards then any other ADN program.

Even though I heard some states are trying not to allow people who graduated from their to practice. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb! With the nursing shortage being so severe I dont know where any state would get the idea that they are picking and choosing. Oh well we can always get foreign grads that have a 10% passing rate on the boards. Excelsior has just as good if not better passing rate on the boards then any other ADN program.

Well, one of those states is your home state of California. The reason is that some hospitals and the California Nurses Association (among others) complained. Once that happened, the state had to investigate and discovered that the EC program didn't comply with California law. It's difficult for a state agency to justify allowing a program that doesn't comply with its own rules and regulations, especially when some industry heavyweights are complaining about it.

So, I don't think they had much of a choice in this case.

:coollook:

Specializes in Mental Health, MI/CD, Neurology.

EC has since changed its admission criteria, since (IMHO) they were pretty lax about some of the people they were admitting to the program for a while there. I met a couple of people at my workshop and at my CPNE who had some pretty cruddy "experience". They were also admitting EMT-Basics to the program. Nothing against EMT-B's (I was one) but it's a 3 month course. Granted having years of experience as one gives you some pull, but there were people getting their EMT-B cert. just to be admitted to the program, and not even working as one.

I for one am glad that EC has stepped up their admission criteria. It kind of makes us all look better. Maybe Cali. will change their minds in the future. I'm sure EC would like them too, since a giant percentage of their students come from there, according to the instructors at my workshop.

I have heard that the Excelsior ADN completion rate is between thirty and forty percent. The official first time pass rate for the dreaded CPNE is 68 percent.>>

Ouch, these are not good pass rates. Wow, only 68%. I wonder what the percentage is for those who take the cpne 3 times & don't make it then.

Kelly

Consider myself one of those ^^^^^

Excelsior is shady

You only get three chances at the CPNE, and then you are expelled form the program>>

This seems like an awful waste of money as there is nothing to transfer to a traditional college. :o

Do the CPNE boot camps help much or just as much of a failure rate with them?

Kelly

Prior to starting the program I had approx. 16 years of healthcare experience and am quite confident of my knowledge and abilities, I went through all the modules quickly and then I was failed ( I do not believe "I" failed so much as I "was failed" ) by examiners all three times, each time for reasons that were excelsiors liability in delivering the exam inconsistantly and not in compliance with the exam parameters. Did I protest/appeal, you bet. Did it matter, no.

And for the record, every time I took the CPNE, MOST of the others students testing during the same time were failed as well. I encourage everyone considering EXCELSIOR to seriously reconsider a traditional school program. Because as I can attest, you can go through the entire program without difficulty and have all your time and monotary envestment thrown away at the end, without any recoorifice.

Maybe Cali. will change their minds in the future. I'm sure EC would like them too, since a giant percentage of their students come from there, according to the instructors at my workshop.

Yeah, I think they had maybe 5,000 students here? The problem though, is that a bunch of rules and regulations would have to be changed, or legislation would have to be passed, which is unlikely.

May this wouldn't have happened if EC had tightened up on the admission requirements sooner. But since there was an investigation and record of all of these problems, I doubt they'll be able to do anything in California unless EC drastically changes their program, which is also unlikely.

:coollook:

Specializes in Mental Health, MI/CD, Neurology.

Max---- this isn't directed at you, as I don't know the circumstances of your failed PCSs or how you prepared. Just know that before you read on.

Many people with a lot of experience don't pass just because of that reason--- they have a lot of experience. Some go into it thinking "I know how to practice nursing" and that's what kicks their butt. The CPNE isn't entirely about how to practice nursing, it's also about how to follow the rules and play the game.

Many nursing programs have similar completion rates--- my LPN class was less than the above stated 30-40% for EC. The 30-40% completion rate--- those are people who start the program and for whatever reason don't finish, whether it's because they decided they didn't like it, failed out of it, or more commonly, just lost the motivation to do it. It's a tough program that takes a ton of motivation.

Boy, listen to me. I am starting to sound like Lizz. :)

Prior to starting the program I had approx. 16 years of healthcare experience and am quite confident of my knowledge and abilities, I went through all the modules quickly and then I was failed ( I do not believe "I" failed so much as I "was failed" ) by examiners all three times, each time for reasons that were excelsiors liability in delivering the exam inconsistantly and not in compliance with the exam parameters. Did I protest/appeal, you bet. Did it matter, no.

And for the record, every time I took the CPNE, MOST of the others students testing during the same time were failed as well. I encourage everyone considering EXCELSIOR to seriously reconsider a traditional school program. Because as I can attest, you can go through the entire program without difficulty and have all your time and monotary envestment thrown away at the end, without any recoorifice.

Boy, listen to me. I am starting to sound like Lizz. :)

Uh ... I hope that's not too bad of a thing.

:lol2:

Specializes in Mental Health, MI/CD, Neurology.
Uh ... I hope that's not too bad of a thing.

:lol2:

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Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.

I agree with what SpazzyLizz says about the CPNE. Being an LPN myself, I did have to work to not think like a LPN and to think more like a RN for this exam, as well as the other nursing exams. Being a LPN can be a hinderance to those who think they're just going to go into the CPNE doing what they already do at work. There's a method to it all, and it's not hard if you follow the guidelines. I've never felt scammed or tricked by EC- I'm very happy with my experience in their program.

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