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    I realize that there are a few individuals that like to frequent this forum and engage in conflict related to distance learning/on-line degrees....but I hope that it does not discourage those seeking positive support here. While I am in agreement that distance/on-line degrees are not meant for everyone, and should be geared toward those with significant NURSING clinical background-- I don't agree with the negativity these individuals bring to the subject. As with any major decision in one's life, conduct a well balanced research from all possible sources to help make your decision one that is well rounded. Realize that people enrolled in alternative degrees can offer good insights on their experiences with course work, employment, etc. It would be hard for anyone who has not gone this route to answer these questions. People who love conflict usually have some underlying etiology to their issues with conflict and the need to be in a constant state of turmoil--for those people we need to lift them up and include them in our daily prayers--even if they curse us! Everyone is unique from their style of learning to their diversity in lifestyle-what a colorful world it is because of this. Good luck to everyone as they continue their studies...regardless of the program type you are in. Doing your best and working with integrity will always shine through!
    Kim
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    hi kimlpn,

    these are good thoughts! it does no one any good to bash schools or programs here this is supposed to be a place to share. bashing of this nature will not change anything and imho it's just another form of complaining.

    we are all different which makes for an interesting world.

    when people ask questions on these bbs it is usually for advice both pro and con and suggestions but i don't ever remember reading one single post that requested folks bash in reply. that is why i enjoy and appreciate the vast knowledge that people bring to this forum.

    good luck to you in your pursuit.

    just one more satisfied online student.
    c:d
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    Originally posted by kimlpn
    I realize that there are a few individuals that like to frequent this forum and engage in conflict related to distance learning/on-line degrees....but I hope that it does not discourage those seeking positive support here. While I am in agreement that distance/on-line degrees are not meant for everyone, and should be geared toward those with significant NURSING clinical background-- I don't agree with the negativity these individuals bring to the subject. As with any major decision in one's life, conduct a well balanced research from all possible sources to help make your decision one that is well rounded. Realize that people enrolled in alternative degrees can offer good insights on their experiences with course work, employment, etc. It would be hard for anyone who has not gone this route to answer these questions. People who love conflict usually have some underlying etiology to their issues with conflict and the need to be in a constant state of turmoil--for those people we need to lift them up and include them in our daily prayers--even if they curse us! Everyone is unique from their style of learning to their diversity in lifestyle-what a colorful world it is because of this. Good luck to everyone as they continue their studies...regardless of the program type you are in. Doing your best and working with integrity will always shine through!
    Kim
    Good point Kim. Online courses are not for everyone and not the only way to attend classes. Online courses are not a new type of educational system, they are merely a new delivery system. Thomas Russell publishes a book and maintains a web site that traces different delivery systems since 1928. The book and site are called, "The No Significant Difference Phenomenon."
    The No Significant Difference Phenomenon

    Everyone has an opinion which is great but the most valued opinions are from people who have actually taken or taught online courses.
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    Originally posted by kimlpn
    I realize that there are a few individuals that like to frequent this forum and engage in conflict related to distance learning/on-line degrees....but I hope that it does not discourage those seeking positive support here. While I am in agreement that distance/on-line degrees are not meant for everyone, and should be geared toward those with significant NURSING clinical background-- I don't agree with the negativity these individuals bring to the subject.
    I'm not sure how to respond to this since I have been accused of being one those individuals in the past. However, I thought most of us resolved a lot of this on other threads, and I haven't posted anything "negative" since.

    If, perhaps, you're referring to one of the Deaconess threads, I just posted some info relevant to the question at hand. Did you somehow construe that as negative? Because that was not my intent and I'm not sure how it could be viewed that way.

    I haven't seen much recent negative stuff either, except maybe Pug's remarks, and that was awhile ago.

    It's kinda strange to bring this up when the negative stuff seems to have quieted down.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jan 9, '04
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    Ken--
    It is great to see how well you have done with alternative courses!!! Your web site is inspiring for anyone planning or enrolled in this type of education!
    Kim
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    Lizz,
    I never indicated any particular person...the statement was a broad generalization of posts I have seen involving Excelsior within the past month. If you have reflected on it and believe you are "accused" then I am sorry--as the post wasn't meant to be an accusing one, but rather one of support.
    Good luck and happy studying!!!
    Kim
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    I wanted to take time out to thank all the EC students that read my thread and have offered their support. I will not drop names but I have had students offering to send me books, have emailed me their notes and have sent me encouraging emails. I receive emails from EC students in other states. I am so appreciative that I felt I had to let everyone know who reads this



    Teresa...... Horray to DL!
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    Originally posted by kimlpn
    Ken--
    It is great to see how well you have done with alternative courses!!! Your web site is inspiring for anyone planning or enrolled in this type of education!
    Kim
    Thanks Kim.
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    I'm trying to find out if anyone has taken an online A & p class at Colorado Com. college.? I just registered for one at the Denver community college (designated home college). It states that the class is taught by staff. I hope someone responds. I am also taking organic chemistry/lab in maryland-on campus and working full-time. I am trying to finish my pre-requistes for a P.A. program application. I heard there was a Chris Dugan teaching at CCC and that he was pretty good. But I don't remember what course he was teaching. Any help would be appreciated and advice to be able to get a B.

    Thanks
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    Cdove, I don't have any info on those particular programs, so I'm afraid I won't be of much help to you at all. Maybe you could call them? It might be worth a try.

    Lizz- you had valid points in your posts about the clinical issue with EC. There were, however, several people on those other recent threads who call the EC program a shortcut (not), a way to get around getting an actual education (not), and basically a program full of incompetent RN wannabes who couldn't cut it anywhere else (not). Now there is at least one new thread posted here from a student who is failing in a traditional program and wants to do the EC program as a way around this. So maybe some of the "uninformed naysayers" are passing around enough misinformation about EC that they are ENCOURAGING the very people to enter the program that they were GRIPING about in the first place. It seems that you are the only one who took the effort and time to actually research the program before you made too many assumptions about it. I can respect that.

    I feel that Kim has the right idea. Distance students need to support each other, because we have been somewhat bashed on here in the past several weeks. Not that we aren't able to stand up for ourselves, but it does get tiring to have to defend your educational method of choice especially when it comes to answering valid questions of prospective EC students. Lots of LPNs want to progress in their studies, and this is the best choice for some of us. I for one, would rather be lifted up, informed, and supported by others who have made that choice, than "discussed" by a few who place the "incompetent" label on us, and have no idea what hoops we have to jump through to meet our goal.

    So, on with the love :chuckle . MzTrixi- I'm so glad you're getting started. You have to let us know when you are about to take your first exam- that one was the scariest for me, because it's like you have to feel out the rhythm of a final exam without being able to feel out the rhythm of an instructor first- just follow the study outline and all will be well. Hopefully it will be of some comfort to you to know that most of the NC exams will be based on information you already learned in LPN school- they just take you deeper into the subjects. It's the same with Lifespan- just refer back to your Intro. to Psych knowlege. And do a nursing care plan (with at least 2 nsg dx's, etc.) on each medical diagnosis- that'll be a big help for all of the nursing exams.

    Kim- where are you right now? I'm getting ready to take NC6&7. Then I'll be ready for the CPNE. Yay!!!


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