Deaconess Students

  1. Hi Everyone,

    I was just curious as to how much the program at DCN is changing. I heard that you had to secure a site for clinicals before you are even accepted into the program. Has anyone else heard of this new requirement?



    mona
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  3. by   New Castle Ken
    Quote from mona b
    Hi Everyone,

    I was just curious as to how much the program at DCN is changing. I heard that you had to secure a site for clinicals before you are even accepted into the program. Has anyone else heard of this new requirement?



    mona
    I don't know about the changes but I have read in a posting a few weeks ago that a student was having trouble finding a clinical site. She was able to use the facilities that DCN was associated with but as far as specialties (I think Peds) she couldn't find a hospital to take her on. Actually, for a hospital to take on an individual student puts them in a bind legally.
    Last edit by New Castle Ken on Apr 23, '04
  4. by   mona b RN
    Quote from New Castle Ken
    I don't know about the changes but I have read in a posting a few weeks ago that a student was having troupble finding a clinical site. She was able to use the facilities that DCN was associated with but as far as specialties (I think Peds) she couldn't find a hospital to take her on. Actually, for a hospital to take on an individual student puts them in a bind legally.
    Thanks for the info.

    Why do you think taking on an individual student puts the hospital in a legal bind?


    mona
  5. by   RedSox33RN
    Quote from mona b
    Thanks for the info.

    Why do you think taking on an individual student puts the hospital in a legal bind?


    mona
    I asked a friend about this, and she thinks it is because the students have to work off of the instructors license, and the hospital or RN is not a true instructor, it would put all licenses in jeopardy should something happen. Lawyers would have a field day if they found out that a student is working off of a license from someone not even accredited by the school they are attending. At least, that was her perception of it.
  6. by   New Castle Ken
    Quote from mona b
    Thanks for the info.

    Why do you think taking on an individual student puts the hospital in a legal bind?


    mona
    I assume the hospital would be taking full responsibility for the student's actions, rather than the instructor and the school. Also students would have to rely on the hospital staff to teach them which would also be a problem. Many times new staff have enough trouble getting someone to help them let alone students (without instructors).
  7. by   mona b RN
    Quote from New Castle Ken
    I assume the hospital would be taking full responsibility for the student's actions, rather than the instructor and the school. Also students would have to rely on the hospital staff to teach them which would also be a problem. Many times new staff have enough trouble getting someone to help them let alone students (without instructors).

    Hi Kenneth,

    I am not quite sure how the legalities of this situation would play out. I believe that nursing students are usually covered by the school as far as liability.

    I agree with you on the fact that most hospitals have their hands full as it is, but I think you also have to see the positive side of having a student on board. An extra pair of competent hands could be a godsend on a busy floor.


    mona
  8. by   Lisa C a Nurse2b
    I found a clinical site right off the bat. Not a problem, the local Hospital is very excited to be involved in the program. I do think that having my clinical site setup did help out in me being accepted. I start classes in the fall.
    Lisa
  9. by   mona b RN
    Quote from Lisa C a Nurse2b
    I found a clinical site right off the bat. Not a problem, the local Hospital is very excited to be involved in the program. I do think that having my clinical site setup did help out in me being accepted. I start classes in the fall.
    Lisa
    Lisa, that is great news, good luck to you!

    mona
  10. by   fry.girl
    Quote from mona b
    Hi Everyone,

    I was just curious as to how much the program at DCN is changing. I heard that you had to secure a site for clinicals before you are even accepted into the program. Has anyone else heard of this new requirement?

    mona
    Mona,

    I was accepted for the Fall 2004 session without a clinical contract, but DCN did mention that half of the Fall class needs to have their clinical contract before classes start.

    I am not sure why a hospital would be in a legal bind in accepted a clinical contract from a DCN student versus a contract with any student from another school. Both of the major hospitals here in Orlando precept community college nurses year round. I responded to an ad on www.campusRN.com from Florida Hospital advertising for nurse externs to complete their clinical training for college credit at their hospital. They only require a one week orientation to start. So I am hoping to hear something positive back this week...

    Cheri
  11. by   mona b RN
    Quote from cbarnett2
    Mona,

    I was accepted for the Fall 2004 session without a clinical contract, but DCN did mention that half of the Fall class needs to have their clinical contract before classes start.

    I am not sure why a hospital would be in a legal bind in accepted a clinical contract from a DCN student versus a contract with any student from another school. Both of the major hospitals here in Orlando precept community college nurses year round. I responded to an ad on www.campusRN.com from Florida Hospital advertising for nurse externs to complete their clinical training for college credit at their hospital. They only require a one week orientation to start. So I am hoping to hear something positive back this week...

    Cheri
    Good luck to you Cheri. I hope the hospital calls you with good news.

    I'm curious as to why only half of the admissions for fall have to have a clinical site in place, why wouldn't that apply to all the students?

    mona
  12. by   Lisa C a Nurse2b
    Mona
    DCN only has 40 slots for the fall 20 must already have clinical sites setup. I don't know why this is. I was told this by Erin Kelly as I was filling out the application for the fall. So I just got on the ball and did everything I could to get everything in order before the deadline. Then I had to wait.
    Lisa
  13. by   fry.girl
    Congrats on getting a Clinical Contract...That ROCKS...It is so encouraging to hear this program work for people...It gives me hope.

    Sounds like you got your stuff together...Way to go!!!!

    I will keep you up to date with how my "Preceptor Hunting" goes.

    Cheri
  14. by   opalmRN
    Quote from Lisa C a Nurse2b
    Mona
    DCN only has 40 slots for the fall 20 must already have clinical sites setup. I don't know why this is. I was told this by Erin Kelly as I was filling out the application for the fall. So I just got on the ball and did everything I could to get everything in order before the deadline. Then I had to wait.
    Lisa

    I am curious which 20? How would they decide something like this? Evens and odds or what? Something sounds rather strange about that.

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