Please quit wasting my time: Interview Advice from Hiring Manager

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I have spent the last two days interviewing candidates for an open RN position on my floor. Last week I went through the 14 resumes HR sent over to pick out the ones I wanted to interview. Eliminated eight of these for various reasons ( poor grammar and spelling, history of job hopping, inappropriate email address), and scheduled six interviews. I did the last interview this afternoon, and still have not found a suitable candidate. I know there are plenty of resources online that give Job Search tips, so please, put a little effort into writing an appropriate resume, and learning how to interview. I don't care if you are old, young, fat, thin, new GN or crusty old bat, gorgeous or if you wear a paper bag over your head. Please present yourself in a professional manner when interviewing. You don't need to wear a business suit, but don't come in jeans or shorts. Don't come with overdone hair and make up and tons of bling. Learn to communicate in a professional manner as well. You are a college graduate, you should at least have an understanding of basic grammar and know how to express yourself. Express a sincere desire to work on my unit. Don't tell me that you really don't want to work on a telemetry unit, that you just want to get into the hospital so that you can transfer into ICU as soon as there is an opening. Don't be cocky or dismissive of CNAs and other ancillary personnel when I introduce you to the staff for the peer interview.

I have read numerous posts from nurses who cannot find jobs in the present economy, and I feel for them. But it can be just as frustrating for a manager looking for staff who are professional, caring, and committed to their profession. I feel like the last two days have been a complete waste of my time. Please, if you are lucky enough to get an interview, make sure you are presenting yourself as a professional. If you cannot make the effort to do so, don't waste your time or mine by even scheduling the interview.

Specializes in Informatics, Orthopaedics.
It's hard to give up an email address you've had for years and years. Even if it *is* [email protected]

you can have the email forwarded to a new address. every email service will have that option.

Specializes in geriatrics.

You can also create multiple email accounts for free. I have 3 emails. One email is used solely for business communication. So, you don't have to cancel an email address you've had for years.

Teacher Sue, I know every unit has a culture and it's unique but there is never, I repeat never, any excuse for lateral violence. If you have a bunch of nurses and techs that get along okay and a couple who start stuff and have personality conflicts, I would get rid of those two people (even if they are experienced nurses) versus going through fifty new staff members because of the poor attitudes of those two people. Turn over costs money, any good manager knows that. Those new people who quit because of lateral violence could have been wonderful nurses. I think managers need to put their foot down and tell those nurses creating problems that they are not the ones who decide who stays and who leaves, the manager is (I left when a nurse informed me "you know, it's not only what your patients say about you that can get you fired, it's what your co-workers say"). Yeah, after that remark, I finished my shift, wrote a note giving my two week (my manager was never there) put it under the door, brought one to HR (and I kept a copy), did my two weeks and left. Inexcusable. I didn't go to work to make friends (it's wonderful if you get along with your co-workers enough to be friends) but I went there to take care of my patients. There's a problem when co-workers opinions and complaints trump patient preferences. Patient comes first.

I feel like managers use "every unit has a unique culture" as a cop out for not doing anything about lateral violence. Units do have their own culture but that does not mean there is discord. You get rid of the lateral violence, then the patients get better care. I have experienced people not wanting to help me because of personality conflict and you know what? It's the patient that suffers because some pts are up with two, some need to be turned, some need to be changed (and require two people), etc. I have actually had PT, a physician, and EMTs help me before because the nurses did not want to.

Like I said before, if people are complaining about co-workers being too slow or whatever, then the complainers should have to come up with a plan to help that person succeed (obviously, they know what that person is doing wrong) and inform the complainer that firing new comer is not an option (time management problems and everything is normal in a new comer); if they don't want to, then that's just because it's a personality conflict and I would definitely take complainer's complaints with a grain of salt. If complaining continued, I would write them up for lateral violence, and have a talk with them and warn them, next time, either go to another unit or be fired.

People don't leave because of "not fitting in"; they leave because of harassment. Maybe you are a great manager, I don't know you, but if you think people leave because they just don't "fit in" maybe you need to a good hard look at your unit.

Okay, rant over.

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

I think people are pushing each other into corners here -- not allowing for the fact that probably everyone here supports a balanced assessment of the candidate that includes the attitude/likability/etc. and the knowledge/skill/experience factors. They are all important -- and I think we all know it. However, each is interested in making his/her own point and painting the other posters as having extreme biases that don't really represent anyone's thinking.

For example: I don't think anyone here supports ANY of the following:

1. Lateral violence

2. Picking employees based solely on likability and ignoring knowledge/skills/experience

3. Picking employees based solely on experience/skills/experience and ignoring interpersonal skills

4. Hiring anyone based solely on their academic degree and ignoring everything else

So ... let's stop accusing people of holding those beliefs. It gets us nowhere except at each others' throats.

When you're a new nurse though, you need something nursing on a resume. Believe me, my jobs were sad to see me go, one of my managers even told me so. It was the environment and poor staffing, no supplies, etc., that drove me away. Not because I just like to switch jobs or had a conflict with my performance or work or anything like that.
I had the same problem with the CNA job I worked at for a full year. I stuck it through primarily so my resume wouldn't look as if I had no loyalty; and the job loved me for it because I actually cared for my patients and loved my job despite various sub-par policies. I left a positive mark on a sub-par facility so that when I get to the "better" facilities I can really shine. FOR INTERVIEWS DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT THE FACILITIES YOU HAVE WORKED AT (SLANDER), SIMPLY SAY THE FACILITY WASN'T A QUALITY PLACE TO WORK CONTINUOUSLY AT. THAT'S ALL THE EXPLANATION THEY NEED. Honestly though, I did leave several jobs within a week and did not put it in my resume simply because it wouldn't have had any positive effect. My advice to to pick the best of the worst jobs out there (as new nurses or CNAs) and stick it through to show you're a hard worker and loyal. You do need something on your resume, but what I think the problem Teacher Sue is talking about is job-hopping without giving any real time to the facility or without ever proving that you're a good employee. Cover letters/follow-up letters with a thanks to [future employer] reading the resume and a "hope to hear from you soon" are awesome for your canidacy image. You then could put an appropriate, POSITIVE few word sentance explaination as to why you left a short-term yet important job on your resume [moved, family responsibilities, etc] in order to explain a job-hopping looking resume. Also, explain that you intend to work contiunously with the facility that you're applying to and look forward to a future with the facility. This is usually an attention getting thing for managers to read, just be ready if they ask you why you put your explanation for leaving (it better have been an important job to you and a saddening experience to have to leave). Highly recommend interview training during nursing school so you're ahead of the game. There are a million different ways to show you're a great nurse and THE one the facility should hire! Just be pro-active and happy, and remember they are hiring you- so be polite, flexable, and ready. If you want the job, be prepared to sacrifice, and be professional in all things- because you should be at that level of education.

llg, the following excerpt is where I drew my response from.

"From this I need to determine what kind of nurse they are, and how they will fit into our unit. And anyone who says that fitting in is not important is deluding themselves. Each hospital and each unit has a unique culture. Just look at all of the posts here from people who left a job because of this".

This is from Teacher Sue.

llg, the following excerpt is where I drew my response from.

"From this I need to determine what kind of nurse they are, and how they will fit into our unit. And anyone who says that fitting in is not important is deluding themselves. Each hospital and each unit has a unique culture. Just look at all of the posts here from people who left a job because of this".

This is from Teacher Sue.

Not fitting in does NOT equal being bullied. And yes, they should hire someone they find "likable." Do you want to go to work everyday with a bunch of people you don't like? If you were the one to get to choose your coworkers, and everything else is equal, are you going to pick the people you don't like?

If Teacher Sue was the enemy, she wouldn't be nice enough to come here and give people advice on how to interview better. Instead she would sit in her office laughing maniacally at all the unlikable people.

wooh, I think you have been a nurse a while, what would you have done if you were new and a nurse made the comment that was made to me?

Personally, I figured it didn't matter if I worked on my weaknesses or provided excellent patient care; according to what the nurse told me, this apparently wasn't going to stop until I was fired. Then, that would have been worse than quitting.

Specializes in geriatrics, hospice, private duty.
Do you want to go to work everyday with a bunch of people you don't like?...

Frankly, I'd rather know that the people I work with are competent and care about the patients. Whether I like them or not is secondary.

To the OP: thanks for this post. It is refreshing to see the flip side of the numerous "I can't find work" posts. Cheers!

Frankly, I'd rather know that the people I work with are competent and care about the patients. Whether I like them or not is secondary.

To the OP: thanks for this post. It is refreshing to see the flip side of the numerous "I can't find work" posts. Cheers!

It is nice to see this! I'm SO HOPING that the people I interview against come in their jammies. Wonder if I can "teach" interview classes and tell them employers don't care what they look like or how they spell? LMAO!!!!!! Wonder if that would help me? LOL!

BUT I have seen the less-than-intelligent get hired because they bring food to an interview, or literally buy their way into a position. It's going to happen, it really is....BUT if we aren't the ones bringing food or paying for our spot, then guess what? Suck it up. That spot will open up again real soon!

As to a professional outfit, I just bought a very beautiful suit jacket at a consignment store for thirty dollars, and it's more than you'll need for a first job interview. There are wonderful bargains out there for someone who's willing to put some time into finding them.

Specializes in Peds ED, Peds Stem Cell Transplant, Peds.
You are a college graduate, you should at least have an understanding of basic grammar and know how to express yourself.

This really bothers me, I just had an interview the other day, and for some reason all through the interview I either stuttered or stumbled over my words. It was a position I have down for over 8 years. I can do it and be willing to learn and stay. Unfortunately because of my lack of speech and my nerves were so on edge, I probably will not get the job. Unfortunately, my family is in dire straights and I really need a job.

Don't judge people on grammar per sae, just because someone isn't as eloquent as you like, doesn't mean they will not do a good job and give you their best.

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