Thread for Filipino Nursing Students

For people who might want to take this program into consideration, if you have the money and you are willing to take the risk, I say why not? But you also have to take into consideration why you really want to join this program…..Is it because you just wanted to go to the U.S. and take a chance on what could be in store for you? (which could be risky). Or you really believe that their curriculum is complete and can make you a competent nurse in the end? But then, just to be guided accordingly, if I were in your shoes these would be my concerns:

Are you saying that if one fails in the Community College (after blowing off so much money), the next option that you mentioned would be to go back to the Philippines and finish with an Associate’s Degree in Nursing in St. Ignatius? Okay, then my next question would be, what on earth would one do with that ADN? How would he/she convert this ADN degree (from the Philippines) to a permanent resident status (as I haven’t personally known anyone yet who had this situation) in the U.S.? And in case one decides to apply in other parts of the globe, would this program be recognized? In addition, in case you wanted to continue to become a BSN holder, what schools in the Philippines or abroad will honor the ADN that you got?

Also have you inquired with the right U.S. agency/office if they actually recognize this program? Sure, the school could give you answers…..but did you really verify with the Nursing State Board/s if they will in actual fact allow you to take the NCLEX without a fuzz? And did they say that they would allow people enrolled in this program to sit for the NCLEX-RN? While you may ask around for answers to these questions, it would still be best to direct those questions to the appropriate office/agency.

No one wants to feel awful in the end. But if one sincerely believes that this program is for him/her, then go on with it. I only raised those questions out of curiosity and to be guided accordingly. Good luck and have a nice day!

The school only offers the ADN program, if you do not finish the course in Fresno, you can still graduate from St Ignatius with an ADN. I agree with you that there is risk and big money involved ... but if one knows his/her capabilities, there's little reason to be worried.

It's not regulated by CHED but by TESDA. TESDA regulates vocational and 2 year programs. I will check it out with Philippine BON.

Somewhat true ... Fresno will not accept students who fail the NCLEX review.

Quezon City General Hospital

I guess I have a unique case because I'm only interested to be a nurse in the US not here. This is my 2nd course and I can always pursue jobs related to my first course in case I have to stay in the Philippines.

Actually, I appreciate what you are doing :nuke: Converations like these are really very helpful when trying to consider pros and cons. At least, when I decide to push thru with this, I can say that I did my research...

Hello everyone. I would like some information on nursing schools in the Philippines. Currently, I am a pre-nursing student here in the US. I have finished all my pre-requisites (anatomy, microbiology, etc.), but am now getting impatient with waiting lists for nursing schools over here. Information on good schools, costs, length of time of program, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Also, I would be staying in Carmona, Cavite if I do decide to go there, so info on schools around that area would be great. Thanks...

The school is following the exact curriculum as Fresno and will be providing the materials (we're not going to spend a single cent on books -- everything is included in the tuiton) plus the school will be using NCLEX review modules from Fresno which has yielded a 98% pass rate.

I still see the benefits of choosing this program. I think I will get the best of both worlds: solid training/experience/exposure from the Philippine hospitals and the recognition of a US degree.

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great that you are taking the posts positively! the exchanges could benefit a lot of the readers, too.

ok, the school's gonna us a us-based curriculum, books and nclex review but what's so special about these anyway? many excellent pinoy nurses in the us received their degrees from the phils. minus any such frill attached to their education. even if you need to pay for your books and the review after getting your degree, will it add up to what you'll be actually paying st. ignatius? it looks to me that these supposed value-added, still, im sorry to say, are mostly hype (nothing much!).

i'm thinking aloud now...the only thing that will make this school special and possibly WORTH it's obscene tuition rates is if they, along with their fresno sister school, has CLEARLY something in place for the successful graduates to find legitimate employment. this entails also confirming if the grads will be allowed to do OPT (optional practical training) at all like the regular academic international student. do check, too, on the length of your visa/status because if they say that you'll be staying for merely 4 months and be given a corresponding visa of 1 -year, what's gonna happen after that? 6 months isn't enough for you to shift status. you're likely to end up going back to the phils. jobless and 3/4 of a million pesos (plusss) poorer. and should you decide to pursue your plans despite the "setback", you may turn out finishing a bsn for what...more pesos! spare yourself the hurt and the trouble.

i've no doubt about your capabilities and your drive, but somehow, you need to understand that these aren't enough. it's equally important to know how the law applies to your case. the school may actually give you the chance to land in the u.s. but will it really allow you to stay and pursue your dreams legally? do you really need to risk (or "invest") as much or is there some other, more practical and equally effective way ?

hello everyone. i would like some information on nursing schools in the philippines. currently, i am a pre-nursing student here in the us. i have finished all my pre-requisites (anatomy, microbiology, etc.), but am now getting impatient with waiting lists for nursing schools over here. information on good schools, costs, length of time of program, etc. would be greatly appreciated. also, i would be staying in carmona, cavite if i do decide to go there, so info on schools around that area would be great. thanks...

hi there! one very good nursing school in cavite is dlsu dasmarinas. search for its website and inquire directly with the admissions office for the details. it has consistently produced graduates with very good performance in the local board exams. it's comparable to the big universities in manila. have your credentials evaluated early because there are also thousands of applicants every year. it's very near from carmona.

search also the website of perpetual help college/university in alabang-zapote road in las pinas city which is still accessible from carmona.

i hope this helps.

Hi germzee, I found these two links which might be helpful to you in making your decision. Go check 'em out:

http://www.thefreeman.com/local/story-20050530-31050.html

http://www.inq7.net/exam/nurse12172005.pdf

Good luck and have a nice day!

Hello everyone. I would like some information on nursing schools in the Philippines. Currently, I am a pre-nursing student here in the US. I have finished all my pre-requisites (anatomy, microbiology, etc.), but am now getting impatient with waiting lists for nursing schools over here. Information on good schools, costs, length of time of program, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Also, I would be staying in Carmona, Cavite if I do decide to go there, so info on schools around that area would be great.Thanks...

Well, the special program is not much different from the regular B.S.N. curriculum. The only difference is that most of the general subjects/minor subjects are not included anymore.....because they assume that as a second courser, you already took those subjects before (of course an official transcript must be presented). I have two U.S. Citizen schoolmates who are now California RN BSNs, and they have been employed right away. The others that I know of took the CGFNS and passed. And one went to the U.K. and worked as an R.N. as well. I had my credentials evaluated too in the U.S. and there was no problem with it. With that, maybe one could conclude that it is recognized. But of course, in general, in finding a school, it is important that one gets the right information before enrolling in any program.

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yes, that's fine, however, i'm concerned about the particular accelerated bsn program itself---if it can stand as a recognized accelerated bsn outside the phils. here in the u.s., an accelerated bsn is only good within the states (and probably it's territories). i don't think it'll be okay when you migrate to australia.

anyway, that's one thing anyone interested needs to check on as well as costs....=)

the fact that they have been licensed in ca as rn bsns and are now employed in la, and the fact that one has already worked in the uk as an rn already answered your question ("if it can stand as a recognized accelerated bsn outside the phils.") although i am not certain about the rules of being an australian rn, i haven't heard yet of a story that one was not qualified to be an australian rn because he/she joined an accelerated program. what i believe is important is the number of hours you spent in the clinical area/rle as a student nurse. if the number of hours were not shortened in any way, then that should be fine. the "special program" that i mentioned is not the same as the accelerated program in the us. it was only called as such because the minor subjects are lesser and probably because it's trimestral . but with regards to duty hours/rotation and major subjects taught, it is still the same, nothing was shortened. with regards to cost, it is still comparable to that of other philippine nursing schools. have a nice day everyone :)

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yes, that's fine, however, i'm concerned about the particular accelerated bsn program itself---if it can stand as a recognized accelerated bsn outside the phils. here in the u.s., an accelerated bsn is only good within the states (and probably it's territories). i don't think it'll be okay when you migrate to australia.

anyway, that's one thing anyone interested needs to check on as well as costs....=)

the fact that they have been licensed in ca as rn bsns and are now employed in la, and the fact that one has already worked in the uk as an rn already answered your question ("if it can stand as a recognized accelerated bsn outside the phils.") although i am not certain about the rules of being an australian rn, i haven't heard yet of a story that one was not qualified to be an australian rn because he/she joined an accelerated program. what i believe is important is the number of hours you spent in the clinical area/rle as a student nurse. if the number of hours were not shortened in any way, then that should be fine. the "special program" that i mentioned is not the same as the accelerated program in the us. it was only called as such because the minor subjects are lesser and probably because it's trimestral . but with regards to duty hours/rotation and major subjects taught, it is still the same, nothing was shortened. with regards to cost, it is still comparable to that of other philippine nursing schools. have a nice day everyone :)

i may have expressed myself unclearly or was understood from a different light. anyhow, thanks for responding.

i didn't question the school's capacity to ultimately produce licensed rn's. regardless if you finished a bsn, accelerated bsn or even an adn, so long as you were allowed to take and passed the nclex, you are a legitimate rn in the us.

i'm just concerned at this new "special program" you refer to, which i think, is similar to the accelerated bsn degree in the us based on these--- 1) tailored for second degree seekers 2) concentrates on nursing subjects 3) runs for a relatively short duration, i.e. 15 to 24 months. now us accelerated bsn's don't transfer outside the country. could this be true of this new program's bsn?

i've read from authoritative posts around the international forum that the u.s. accelerated bsn don't readily transfer outside the u.s....meaning the degree isn't what it is when you go to australia, for example. but, of course, this doesn't mean you can't be an rn altogether down under. i'm just looking at equivalence...accelerated bsn should be a bsn, ... wherever. this is particularly important if you will be seeking further studies or climbing up the ladder beyond the rn license.

yes, i've gone to the pwu site and the costs, i agree, are indeed standard. it isn't a bad deal altogether but it sure would be great to have the degree seamlessly transferrable.

The special program has been there for quite a while and graduates didn't have any problems with it. It is the real BSN Program. I am certain about it. I am posting it because I just wanted to share it with people who might be interested to know about a legitimate and an accredited program. There are many Nursing schools in the Philippines to choose from, but the thing is you have to be certain that it's not a bogus program. (But if one has doubts, then it is best to contact CHED about it). It is not like the program that you mentioned---wherein there are limitations and that the degree is only accepted/recognized in the U.S. And no, the clinical rotations were not shortened in any which way (the number of clinical hours are still the same). Afterall, a legitimate program shouldn't have any short cuts in that aspect. Have a happy weekend folksJ

i may have expressed myself unclearly or was understood from a different light. anyhow, thanks for responding.

i didn't question the school's capacity to ultimately produce licensed rn's. regardless if you finished a bsn, accelerated bsn or even an adn, so long as you were allowed to take and passed the nclex, you are a legitimate RN in the us.

i'm just concerned at this new "special program" you refer to, which i think, is similar to the accelerated bsn degree in the us based on these--- 1) tailored for second degree seekers 2) concentrates on nursing subjects 3) runs for a relatively short duration, i.e. 15 to 24 months. now us accelerated bsn's don't transfer outside the country. could this be true of this new program's bsn?

i've read from authoritative posts around the international forum that the u.s. accelerated bsn don't readily transfer outside the u.s....meaning the degree isn't what it is when you go to australia, for example. but, of course, this doesn't mean you can't be an rn altogether down under. i'm just looking at equivalence...accelerated bsn should be a bsn, ... wherever. this is particularly important if you will be seeking further studies or climbing up the ladder beyond the rn license.

yes, i've gone to the pwu site and the costs, i agree, are indeed standard. it isn't a bad deal altogether but it sure would be great to have the degree seamlessly transferrable.

hi!

Im a student nurse from cebu....uspf-cn in particular.I'll soon be joining the CAPPING & BADGING INVESTITURE this coming june06....According to my seniors that its really a new environment with regards to the 8hrs duty and alot of duty requirements....i hope i'll do just great this coming academic year....

to senior student nurses here:a sn from phil in particular...plz advice me with regards to the books that i should be buying....(ncm100-maternal) and what should i buy with regards to the nursing drug hand book......plz advice me of the books that are of great help to me this coming AY.

Thnx!Hope to hear from some of you soon!

The special program has been there for quite a while and graduates didn't have any problems with it. It is the real BSN Program. I am certain about it. I am posting it because I just wanted to share it with people who might be interested to know about a legitimate and an accredited program. There are many Nursing schools in the Philippines to choose from, but the thing is you have to be certain that it's not a bogus program. (But if one has doubts, then it is best to contact CHED about it). It is not like the program that you mentioned---wherein there are limitations and that the degree is only accepted/recognized in the U.S. And no, the clinical rotations were not shortened in any which way (the number of clinical hours are still the same). Afterall, a legitimate program shouldn't have any short cuts in that aspect. Have a happy weekend folksJ

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hi....well, your purpose to share information is perfectly welcome, no doubt! the forum is here to help people to make their decisions.

i just got curious that the program you refer to, as per your initial post, "starts in june" hence, i'm led to believe it's new. and so, understandably, it follows that the program at this point doesn't have any record of its products. however, you insist that you, along with others were graduates of the program...i'm a little confused. if it's not asking too much, please feel free to say why the program is to start this june while actually it's been ongoing for sometime.

when i said "relatively short duration" (i don't want to be sued...), i only meant that the accelerated u.s. bsn like the special program you're talking about also considers past college work thereby allowing the student to start with the nursing and/or sciences right away. that's wonderful because other schools may simply ask you to do over many subjects (or all!) in the guise of keeping a "standard"...hmnnnn.

in principle, it looks like the us accelerated bsn and such special program could be similar. not that i wish to discourage people (to the contrary!) from joining but it would be helpful to know if the bsn degree "stays" should one decide to get a higher degree in the future. i'll reiterate that it's already good choice up front for serious second coursers wanting to be rns in an efficient way.

let me set the record straight, the special bsn program and the old program's the same in terms of clinical rotation/duty and major subjects taught. the clinical hours rendered too are the same as before. the only difference is that the minor subjects are lessened (which i believe doesn’t matter as the school got its deregulated status years ago so it could enrich or delete minor subjects according to how they want it.) but it will not affect the quality of the nursing education in any way because it is still the same. during my time, the second coursers (like me) and those who just got out of high school were put in one classroom. but now, they are separating the second coursers from those who just got out of high school. it is assumed that for second coursers, they already took their basic subjects before (of course a transcript must be presented to verify this) so they just have a few minor subjects to take. and so they are being grouped together now. i hope you see the picture clearly. are you saying that just because they separated the second coursers from the people who just got out of high school, it automatically means that it is an accelerated program? so if you combine them together again, one could then easily say that it is not an accelerated program??? it was never called an accelerated program as far as i know---so it’s not an accelerated program. i wish you well in your studies. have a pleasant day. but if you’re very interested with the program that i posted, it would be best to talk to a school official so that he/she can answer your concerns best. happy weekend! :)

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hi....well, your purpose to share information is perfectly welcome, no doubt! the forum is here to help people to make their decisions.

i just got curious that the program you refer to, as per your initial post, "starts in june" hence, i'm led to believe it's new. and so, understandably, it follows that the program at this point doesn't have any record of its products. however, you insist that you, along with others were graduates of the program...i'm a little confused. if it's not asking too much, please feel free to say why the program is to start this june while actually it's been ongoing for sometime.

when i said "relatively short duration" (i don't want to be sued...), i only meant that the accelerated u.s. bsn like the special program you're talking about also considers past college work thereby allowing the student to start with the nursing and/or sciences right away. that's wonderful because other schools may simply ask you to do over many subjects (or all!) in the guise of keeping a "standard"...hmnnnn.

in principle, it looks like the us accelerated bsn and such special program could be similar. not that i wish to discourage people (to the contrary!) from joining but it would be helpful to know if the bsn degree "stays" should one decide to get a higher degree in the future. i'll reiterate that it's already good choice up front for serious second coursers wanting to be rns in an efficient way.