Workplace Bullying for Nurses - page 3

Earlier, I was flipping through the May 2012 issue of The Walrus, and on one of its pages, there is a short item written by Victoria Beale, titled Ratched Effect: Nurses, the original mean girls. She writes:I am a recent entrant... Read More

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    [QUOTE=Fiona59;6520230]That's me the voice of doom and gloom!Could you imagine being trapped in the Cataract OR and doing cataracts for the rest of your day!!!I figure I've got maybe five years left in me. I'm a floor nurse, like the patient ed part of the job, really enjoy a good dsg change and believe it or not I seem to have a way of making my patients "feel secure and safe" (quote from letter of appreciation). I seriously am going to frame that when I get my copy from my manager![/QUOTEOh yes,there's nothing as satisfying as a good dressing change is there?
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    No, it's ok. If my plan to become an RN can be easily swayed by this conversation, then I probably shouldn't be in nursing. In any case, this thread allowed me to learn a great deal about nurses and possible specialites.

    Currently, B.C. has student loan forgiveness program for certain healthcare students if employed in underserved regions. As for OR training, I have heard some hospitals will sponsor students in their advanced education, but I do not know if this is a province-wide practice funded by the government.

    Aside from the card stacking opinions about the world of OR, is there any thing positive that can be said about the OR specialty other than witnessing surgical procedures? There seem to be expert consensus that OR is one of the most boring and uninspiring fields in nursing, and that I am tempting career-happiness suicide by wanting to join the teams of OR after graduation. If true, I pity the hopefuls who are going into OR come this graduating year. Fortunately for me, I have this forum and the luxury of planning ahead.
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    Once you start your clinical placements you'll get a better idea of what you want to do. You may find that nursing isn't at all for you.

    Perhaps by the time you graduate there will be more nursing jobs in BC.
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    I thought I'd love Geriatrics and LTC, was I wrong. If it came down to LTC or leave nursing? I'd leave. I found out I was a surgical nurse. Love wound care, seeing a patient get stronger and move through the system. I guess my ideal unit would be a day surgery unit but they are hard to get a position on due to senority issues (I've been nursing less than 15 years).

    Half my class wanted to work postpartum, I've only heard of one that went to that world. Again seniority issues and the reality is despite our rising birth rate there just isn't that many positions.

    We're not trying to talk you out of anything, just want to make sure you enter into this with very open eyes and a real life view point.

    Alberta had or might still have a loan forgiveness programme, but there was/were some great clauses in it. If most of your student loans were federal, they wouldn't pay them off. Be very careful and read all the fine print because you can't hope the loan rebates will be there four years down the road with the state of the BC economy. We've had more than a few BC new grads come out to work in casual lines here because they couldn't find jobs.
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    I have a friend that loves the OR. She said because there is no drama. She comes in does her job and goes home. She does not take her work home with her. She very orderly, she like having her tools just so, like anticipating the docs needs.

    And Fiona, she does do cataracts one day a week, loves it too.

    Thats the thing about nursing, there is something for everyone.

    I was one of those who wanted to work postpartum. I fell in love with end-of-life care. You never know where you might end up. Just keep an open mind to everything.
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    The B.C. student loan forgiveness program likewise only accounts for the provincial studnet loan, and not for the national student loan. Although by July 2012, the B.C. student loan will complete its integration with the national student loan. I don't know how that will affect the loan forgiveness program at this moment.

    Since I have the option of relocating after graduation, I am not too concerned about employment availability as much as other graduates, but I have noticed that even for Northern Health (B.C.'s northern healthcare provider), currently at Prince George there are only few opening RN positions with 1.0 FTE, most remain casual or part-time.

    I've had been reading elsewhere about nursing, on Reddit in particular, and like this example, what the posters wrote can get me really excited and motivated about the nursing career and OR specialty. I wouldn't think having an interest and setting a goal for any student would be disadvantageous to the student's study. Instead, they are catalysts for higher achievement and lessening academic pressure throughout the semesters, and during clinical rotations such students will be best able to assess and qualify any specialty options of choice. I agree that it is wholly valuable to have a realistic view of nursing and any future specialty option, but I don't think being provided a largely gloom and doom outlook is a true reflection of reality, and neither would it be helpful to students alike.
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    Not doom and gloom Eric.It's called being realistic.That's a typical reaction from people who aren't nurses yet and don't like what they hear.
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    Quote from ericleeericlee
    is there any thing positive that can be said about the OR specialty other than witnessing surgical procedures?

    Although seeing surgical procedures is definitely one of the bonuses of the job there are other positives about working in the OR. Obviously some of these bonuses depend on the facility that you work at but most OR nurses I work with will generally say it gives you a great work/life balance and less shift work than floor nursing. This is obviously a generalization because there are exceptions but for the most part scheduled cases do occur through out the week during daytime hours.

    Other things I like about the OR is the unique team environment. It's actually pretty cool when you think about how all the people in the room are completely dedicated to that one patient in the room. The anesthesiologist, surgeon, respiratory therapist, residents and nurses. As a floor nurse I found the interaction with doctors pretty limiting. They didn't seem to know me (except as the nurse) and they were always in and out. It seemed really segregated to me so it's pretty neat to have everyone in the OR be on the same team.

    I still work on a med/surg floor and I found that some of the skills I have obtained from the OR are helpful on the floor. Besides the technical skills that you get a ton of experience in like IV starts, catheters, you also get a better understanding of how things work. Before the OR I always thought that a central line was the answer to all difficult IV starts and long term IV use but now I see that sometimes CVCs can be difficult to place and complications do occur.Basically they weren't as simple as I once thought. You get to use all sorts of drains, learn how to better position patients and actually get real hands on experience holding a bag valve mask that isn't in a code situation or isn't a mannequin in CPR class. It may seem easy but more than one anesthesiologist has said holding a bag-valve masks is a practiced skill. If you continue working goon the floor it's pretty neat to see patients on the floor pre-op, see them in surgery and then see them post op on the floor too!

    Quote from ericleeericlee
    There seem to be expert consensus that OR is one of the most boring and uninspiring fields in nursing, and that I am tempting career-happiness suicide by wanting to join the teams of OR after graduation. If true, I pity the hopefuls who are going into OR come this graduating year. Fortunately for me, I have this forum and the luxury of planning ahead.
    Honestly the OR isn't for everyone just like how LTC isn't for everyone either. One of the posters here said it best when she said that, that's the great thing about nursing, there's many different places a nurse can go. I've had boring days in the OR... eye surgery isn't my favourite but that's why it's nice that I'm on OR nurses and not just an eye surgery nurse. I get to do ortho, general, urology, ENT, plastics, neuro, etc. I guess I can compare it to floor nursing when I get a patient assignment that is "boring" but at least you won't have that same pt assignment forever.
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    Doom and gloom? You asked a question and got an answer. Sorry that answer was not what you wanted. Not everyone likes (insert whatever area). I see students most disadvantaged when they set their eye on one area only. They miss out on so many opportunities for learning and end up being severely disappointed. " I should not have to do X because I'm only going to work with ........" ( my fav is I should not have to toilet/wash/wipe/shave because I'm going to be an RN and I'll have aides to do that. But that's off topic and not at all directed at you Eric) Nursing is great in many ways, not so great in many ways. But I don't think anyone said not to go into it, or gave a poor outlook?
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    Geez... This is one ironic thread.

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