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UofT mostly give spots to people who already has degrees. Your chances are slim. But you can still do a 4 year degree because chances are you need to go back to school for a year to get your prerequisite courses, since you already did one year in nursing so thats 3 years right? Your better off continuing your nursing by switching back to nursing. You can apply to trent that has a 3 year program and only requires high school courses and a mid average of B I think. Oh by the way, when applying, don't say your in it for the money, people will want to crucify you for that. Make sure you say "oh I love helping people, I have dream of becoming a nurse since I was young and nursing is sooooo my calling!" Something along those lines will do. :)

eric, every work field has bullying, what do you think the terms "paying your dues" comes from? don't be persuaded by these old time hardcore nurses who don't believe you should do it for the money. your other option besides nursing is simply much worse because there will be bullying and you will be paid $12 bucks an hour selling something. So go into nursing man.

I am definitely going into nursing because of the money. That doesn't mean though I don't care for people or look in the mirror every morning and say how much I hate my job. Should I go into a job I have passion for and get paid $12/hr? No I won't. I want to make a good living and know how much I will get paid 10 years after doing a job well done. Besides, nursing actually provide care for others, it feels much more satisfying knowing you help someone rather than try them to sell them an iphone or get them to invest money in some mutual fund. By the way, if all the nurses in Ontario thinks the money aren't all that great, ($60k - $85k) is really more greedy than the bankers I worked for. If the nurses here actually try to see who is hiring and for how much, they definitely be satisfied with their pay. I know that I don't have to spend 10 years climbing some corporate ladder for that type of pay with no certainty.

I am actually prepared for all that. I do want to work with kids though. But all the more funny is the only thing I keep reading about new grads is to take what you can get and here I am being so criticize for asking about the money. I do know that there is a topping limit to nurses. That is why I will further pursue a Master in Nursing or a MD. There is nothing wrong having an strong emphasis on money. Would you crucify my friend for her to go into nursing for the money because she is a single mother of 3? Any ways thanks for input. I will definitely go into nursing, but will always be for the money first, and care of others second.

I didn't mention people because it isn't an issue. Only issue is beggars can't be chooser.

I will be taking my prereq this fall and winter. I'll apply to a few university. My mentality after coming from working in finance is that you get paid $12/hr for doing sales and customer service. Relocation is not an option since finance jobs only hire local. Why would they import you if there is a much larger supply? So I don't mind relocation for nursing, don't my doing crappy work, don't mind part time or casual, because I rather get paid $25/hr rather than $12/hr for doing the same type of crummy work. Plus in nursing, you have that pay scale per year of experience whereas in finance, 10 years down the road, you have no guarantee and have no idea where you can go. In addition you get to climb a corporate ladder that has another 10,000 more senior people than you waiting for that promotion and long overdue since the market crash. In finance, you get MBA, CFA, CGA, CMA and CA designation competing for that same job. Even getting a MBA, you still face a lot of competition much much more than nursing, for that $24/hr job. So I feel that it makes economic sense to get into healthcare, though nursing isn't immune to economic downturns, at least it is better than finance. So why would I spend another 5 year plus getting that CFA and CMA designation with no better odds. I will be applying to UHN for those listed programs to volunteer. At least get a reference letter out of it to apply for school. York ask for philosophy is kind of ridiculous so my main university is UofT/Mcmaster.

Actually, because of the reason listed by Lori, I am thinking of volunteering for UHN volunteer program that get to deal with patients in oncology. You get training to deal with death, support and comfort the patient. You can find more info here: http://www.uhn.ca/Careers_at_UHN/volunteering_at_uhn/volunteering_uhn/HBB/index.asp or http://www.uhn.ca/Careers_at_UHN/volunteering_at_uhn/PMCC_visiting_program/cardiac_volunteer_opps.asp Either program is a visiting program type offering support with a lot of direct contact with patients. Another program is the help program at the UHN that volunteers get training from doctors and nurses and you work side by side with them. It is a program for pre med and pre nursing students. You get to learn how to feed the elderly, get trained about the texture of liquid and such. In this sense, you think it will work? Also they give you a reference letter after 140 hours of volunteer work.

Hi, name is Jack. I got a Bcomm at UofT, worked for a year, decided to change to nursing. Notice that nursing, even with the HFO new grad program, still sucks in getting a job. Notice also hospitals replacing RN with RPN to save money. Notice also more people getting into nursing. So I will try to get in to UofT 2nd entry program. My strategy is thus in order to get a job after I graduate 3 years from now. So please comment on this strategy. 1. Volunteer from now and til I finish the 2 year program, where I start next fall, at a hospital and network. 2. Volunteer at the speciality I want or in a speciality. 2. Get a placement at the hospital where I have volunteered and try to match the speciality in which I volunteered for. 3. Get a HFO job at the hospital where I did my placement that's related to my speciality during placement and volunteer. 4. Take offer I am given after the HFO, hopefully the economy is better in 3 years, or take any offer despite a unit I hate, location or time. The 4 steps will give me when I graduate: - 3 years of volunteer experience at a hospital hopefully getting to know the managers - 6 months of HFO new grad experience Any comments? From all the experienced RN, if you had done this before you graduated, do you think you may have landed a job sooner?