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as the financial crisis deepens in the us, canada is also feeling the pain. it was thought that we'd feel less impact because of differences in our methods and systems, but the truth is that we aren't immune to it at all. there were more than 129,000 jobs lost in canada in january alone. most of them were in the manufacturing sector, but not all.

hamilton-layoff notices go out next week to 250 staff as hamilton health sciences cuts $21 million from its budget.

the hospital has already axed 49 corporate jobs to save $4 million. it also plans to save cash by having fewer nurses per patient and less-skilled workers providing care.

st. joseph's healthcare, which has predicted 175 job cuts, will tell its staff feb. 2 its plans to reduce a $12 million deficit.

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/article/575245

hospital unions projecting 5,000 job losses, serious cutbacks to patient care if mcguinty fails to address hospital underfunding

monday, january 12, 2009

toronto, jan. 12 /cnw/ - in a joint press conference this morning, leadership from four major hospital unions representing more than 80,000 hospital staff warned of large scale job losses and downsizing in ontario's hospitals. in a briefing note, the unions warned that underfunding at currently planned levels translates into a cutback of 5,000 full time jobs and more than 9 million hours of patient care. serious hospital cutbacks are threatened at hospitals of every size (small, medium and large) in every region of ontario.

"hospital downsizing is already resulting in longer waits for patients, user fees for patients, and loss of services," noted patty rout, vice president and treasurer of opseu.

http://www.seiulocal1.org/hospital_unions_projecting_5_000_job_losses__serious_cutbacks_to_patient_care_if_mcguinty_fails_to_address_hospital_underfunding.aspx

most of the nursing job losses have been in ontario, but that doesn't mean the rest of the country will be safe.

alberta health care to suffer as government tightens its belt

appointments raise concerns of privatization

jason fekete, calgary herald

published: friday, november 21, 2008

provincial health minister ron liepert warned albertans on thursday to gird for difficult decisions ahead on health care as the government grapples with what's likely to be reduced revenues next year and some tough-love budgeting.(...)

the board will also closely examine all health-care supplier contracts to ensure the province is getting value for money, he added, while staffing requirements will "continue to change" as the system evolves.

"there's going to have to be tighter belts," hughes said. "we are going to change the way we deliver health care in alberta."

http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=786a24ef-91c6-4e6d-a36b-af954b833708

it is entirely possible that the recruitment of iens will drop off sharply as the canadian employment picture worsens. while canada is not currently considering a moratorium on hiring nurses from abroad, it may reach that point. please be aware and prepared for it should it come to that. also consider the position of your spouse or other supporting person who will be job-seeking in canada who may now have severely limited possibilities. take nothing for granted. if you want it badly enough, you'll have to be willing to fight.

Specializes in Psych, Informatics, Biostatistics.

I read with concern the posted comments.

I am a Canadian RN looking to relocate to Toronto to be closer to my sister and family. I just recently received a letter from the College of Nurses of ON permitting me to register.

Is the expectation for a full time job in psych in Toronto a reasonable one? Or do I stay in the states?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Full time nursing positions in Ontario are in short supply no matter what specialty area one looks at. I did a quick search for mental health positions and found exactly 2. One was part time and both require a baccalaureate in nursing. My best advice is to make a list of the psychiatric units in the GTA and contact each of them to assess the possibility of obtaining work there. Sadly, it doesn't look too hopeful.

Texas would be a good place to look also.

The Dallas area is doing fine, and houses have not lost any value.

Texas has outpaced the US economy a time or two...

How does this relate to Canada?:banghead:

Specializes in Psych, Informatics, Biostatistics.

Surprisingly, I have had some bites for FT.

I am prefering either Toronto or Niagara. North of TO has also responded, BUT not as interested.

I see four openings for Correctional nursing in Scarborough. Thoughts?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

If you recall, I mentioned in an earlier post that Alberta's health system is undergoing a radical overhaul with the shift from 9 health regions to one centralized service. The actual amalgamation took place on April 1 and now Alberta Health Services is THE health region. They are also the employer of almost all nurses in the province. The CEO, Dr Stephen Duckett, and his administrative board are still working through the process of who will do what and how. One thing is certain, there will be huge changes in the way health care is delivered in this province.

Dr Duckett has a blog wherein he communicates with the people whose lives and livelihoods he holds in his hands. Recently he posted the following item:

In the meantime, we'll have to tighten our belts further. So I've put further brakes on external recruitment (no Virginia, this is not a freeze. Read my lips: Brakes, not stop). Essentially, there'll need to be more senior approval of all external recruitment action.

This is an indication that there will be very few IENs recruited in the foreseeable future. Those who are already in possession of an offer of employment will in all probability be employed. But those just beginning the process will not. Dr Duckett is also talking about laying off 100 middle management personnel in the next week or so; they will be looking for other employment and you could find yourself in competition with them. Not a good place to be.

Please keep your eyes open and pay attention to the changes that are occurring.

Those who are already in possession of an offer of employment will in all probability be employed.

Here in Philippines, 1000+ nurses have already signed a contract for employment in Alberta. I've heard that they're also hiring nurses from India. --- How are they going to squeeze in this large number of nurses? :confused:

I imagine that they will see the parts of the province that are severely understaffed. Grande Prairie, High Level and points further north.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

There is a difference between signing a contract with a recruiter and receiving an offer of employment from a specific workplace. Until a unit or clinic has completed all the stages for employing a person and have sent out the actual letter offering employment, the process can be terminated. The letter would read something like this:

"Jane Doe, RN shall be employed as a staff RN on Unit XYZ with an FTE of 80%. Hourly wages will be in accordance with the United Nurses of Alberta Collective Agreement with credit given for all documented relevant experience. A letter of portability from each employer detailing this experience will be required prior to this credit being initiated. A probationary period of 540 hours will be required prior to permanent employment.

A relocation allowance in the amount of $X,000 will be provided upon the successful completion of orientation and upon the presentation of supporting original receipts.

Employment will commence on June 1, 2009 at 0730 hours. Please report to Rm 201, 3rd Floor, Anytown Hospital at that time for preliminary orientation. You will be required to offer proof of BCLS certification and licensure with CARNA at this time. Blah blah blah banking information, yadda yadda yadda immigration documents...."

Those 1000+ nurses in the Philippines are not likely in possession of that type of documentation, only a piece of paper signed by a recruiter, which likely has a lot of fine print outlining the terms under which the agreement may be voided. The statement from Dr. Duckett indicates that there will be a much closer look at who is being recruited externally and limits placed on that process, which would be covered in the conditions for voiding any such agreement.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

There's been lots happening in Alberta since my previous post. There currently are NO postings for nurses anywhere in Alberta. The Minister of Health, Ron Liepert, and the CEO of Alberta Health Services Stephen Duckett have both said publicly that there is NO NURSING SHORTAGE in Alberta, only a shortage of nurses who want to work full time. http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Health/Alta+nurses+push+back/1670262/story.html Many of the nursing administration personnel have been forced to reapply for their jobs and a good number of them had their jobs eliminaed so they're now looking to bump someone below them. Nobody knows for sure what's happening anywhere only that everyone is feeling threatened in one way or another. In my case, I'm afraid that the former director of my program will now become my immediate manager. I don't know that I could stay in my job if that happens because I don't trust this person and I know things on our unit will get much worse than they are now because this person has no understanding of what we do or how we do it. Not that our current immediate manager is all that wonderful, but better the devil one knows... The IENs already here are being exploited by the AHS and many of them may find themselves on a flight back home without really understanding why. It's not a nice place to be right now.

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

Sounds like an awful place to be at the moment

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Before I went to bed last night I took a quick look at the job postings for the former Capital Health region. There are a handful up, all of them having been determined to be "essential to fill". But EVERY SINGLE ONE said that the posting was only open to CURRENT AHS employees, which means they're only shuffling the problem around. The Employer (the province of Alberta) insisted that the contract be amended to state that employees could only hold a single position within the region which is now the whole province (so if I had a 0.4 with the University, I couldn't then also have a 0.4 at the Alex even though it would still be less than full time). So how do they think that taking a nurse from Point A and employing them at Point B will solve the shortage? There's obviously some health care economics formula that I'm unaware of that makes that work...

Specializes in MICU.

Hello Friends

Am a Male nurses from India

i heard inspite of the crisis, still agencies are recruiting Nurses to Canada

Is it possible to migrate to Canada as a nurse at present?

Or the agencies r fake?

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