canadian lpn not a "nurse"? - page 3

Hello all, let me begin by saying I am in the lpn program and loving it. The other day, I was told by a presently employed lpn that lpns are just NOT nurses. She firmly told me that the world "nurse" was protected by the... Read More

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    Quote from gaijingal
    I'm going to be flamed for this, but I think the very fact that no one seemed to know a) that they were nurses and b) where to go to prove this shows why LPN's SHOULDN'T be considered nurses. As does the fact that a practicing LPN doesn't know why there's an age restriction on who LPN's can give injections to.

    You can't give an injection to a five year old because LPN's are only licensed to care for stable patients, and kids are not considered stable.
    I guess you need to notify the Children's Hospitals out west that children aren't considered stable, LPN's staff these units and care for children who are fresh post-ops....

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    Originally Posted by gaijingal
    I'm going to be flamed for this, but I think the very fact that no one seemed to know a) that they were nurses and b) where to go to prove this shows why LPN's SHOULDN'T be considered nurses.
    Do you have ACTUAL PROOF that NO ONE knows that LPNs are nurses? LOL

    There's quite a few people out there that do not know what an RN's job consist of. Using your rationale, well heck, RNs shouldn't be nurses either

    Thanks for the laugh, i needed it LOL. (after a long hard day at work as a licensed practical nurse)
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Aug 14, '06
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    on my unit our RPN's and RN's work side by side... and pretty much do the same thing... only difference is that our RPN's cannot push an IV drug and hang certain drugs (that we hardly use)...

    I asked my coworkers how they felt about this issue.. and they both feel both types of nurses are vital to the team...

    The CNO identifies RPN's as nurses.. It is actually in the Professional Standards. It states "in Ontario, nursing is one profession with two categories - RN and RPN" and in their little footer it states "the term nurse refers to both RN and RPN"

    sounds to me like an RPN is a nurse...
    Last edit by nursemama2be on Aug 14, '06
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    I find this question very interesting! I'm a new graduate nurse (not yet registered..waiting for those results to come in). With my short experience i've learned how necessary it is to learn to work and communicate efficiently with all members of staff in a health care Center. There are registered nurses, lpn's, rpn's, etc. I believe there are different kinds of nurses, wich may sometimes be confusing to our patients. They may wonder, *Which nurse is it that is going to bring my pills? Who's going to bathe me this morning?* etc... No matter what *kind of nurse* we are, our goals and priorities remain the same: the well being of our clients! And i believe that we should recognize each and every role we play in the care plans of our clients, and its important that they know who we are and what each one of us has to do with their health care.
    I don't know if I've even answered the question but I felt i could reply somehow to this forum because it is something that I myself have been wondering, so I figured I could present my opinion. I hope also that I haven't offended anybody! By the way cool site I love it
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    Well, the reason I couldn't find proof that LPN's were concidered nurses in my province is because there isn't ANY. New-Brunswick is the only province where the term "NURSE" is protected. An LPN is a "practical nurse" and is not to describe herself as a "NURSE". I'm very disapointed about this.
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    I do not think anyone lacks the wherewithal asking questions of a nursing forum. With the broad based experienced nurses here,I can not imagine why not asking anything pertaining to nursing, nurses, etc.! This is a career that brings me, as a nurse, in contact with all types of people, during the many stages, traumas and difficult times in their lives. I see them at their best and worst, but always good communication skills are vital.There are ways to say things to educate, without putting down. cadi
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    I am a Canadian LPN, I am a nurse, I can start IV's, hang meds, call the doctor, fill his orders, talk to pharmacy, have meds shipped over, assess clients. I have worked as an LPN for 13 years. I worked as a HCA for more then a decade ac becoming an lpn. Was I a nurse when I was a HCA, I did not consider myself one, but I did consider myself part of the nursing staff.

    The 'Nurses' at this facility LPN's and RN's hosted a party for the residents. We as HCA's were not invited. I along with my partner stood at the entrance of the activity room, the program was good, and at the end
    Edna RN announced this 'and this is the Nursing Staff of ----- Home.'
    Who was left out, the main caregivers, the frontline staff. This was crushing for us, we had become an entity that defied description.

    I think we are all very important, we all have a role. We are all nursing staff.

    So for those people that do not consider Lpn's a Nurse please solve this puzzle for me, tell me, what am I?
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    LPNs in New-Brunswick do the same work as LPNs in other provinces, but still can't use the term "NURSE". The term has been protected in NB, and can only be used to describe the registered nurse and the nurse practioner I beleive. Anyhow, I know an LPN can not describe herself as a nurse. I also am VERY puzzled and upset about this. I'm not an "assistant" , yet I'm not a "nurse" either, so what am I exactly?
    I wonder if the term "Nurse" was protected in your provinces also, and did they just add the LPN to their list of nurse once the title changed from RNA? I wonder if this will ever change in my province, or is it legally impossible?

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    Dear Original Poster: have you thought about contacting your provincial college of LPNS? They will know the answer to your question. Each college has an archive of the change in roles of the PN in that province. Part of our annual license fees in action....
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    Hello, thanks for your reply.
    Yes, I did check with my provincial college of LPNs, and that is the answer that they gave me: " New-Brunswick is the only province in Canada that the title NURSE has been protected". That's all he could really tell me on the subject. It's like they don't want to talk about it over here. It's like they have the attitude "why open up a can of worms"? Maybe I would be better off speaking with a lawyer, he/she could at least tell me if it's worth even fighting for, if it's worth telling the LPNs aroud here that we are the ONLY province that LPNs are not concidered nurses! We are the only province that hasn't EVOLVED if you ask me. I've noticed that no one even knows about this. The LPNs that I have mentioned this too just look at me like I'm totaly making this up, instead of saying "we should really fight for our rights too! We deserved the recongnition too!"
    Well, thanks for letting me vent.
    This is a great site and most people are very helpful and supportive.

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