Religious Dilemma? - page 2

A patient says something hateful, and here’s what a Muslim medical student does - The Washington Post Interesting conundrum?... Read More

  1. by   Avid reader
    Quote from ZombieRain
    Getting into LPN school in a few days, so I have no real dog in the healthcare side of 'isms, but I wonder where the lines for me will be. Can I go ahead and prepare my statement?

    I am Catholic/Republican/white/a man. But I am also a nurse. I can offer you my skills to the best of my ability, regardless of how you feel about my identity. It's your decision if you're open to working with me.

    Or maybe I'll just agree with them? I wore many hats waiting tables, earning tips by being whoever the customer wanted me to be. Yup, blacks are stupid and whites are racists and Catholics are pedophiles and Muslims are terrorists and nope, the Holocaust didn't happen and neither did the Armenian genocide and yes, it is a shame Democrats kill babies before Republicans can eat them.

    The internet is great for exposition. In the real world my mind is preoccupied with school costs and car repair and a new baby and and and.
    And this makes you immune from empathizing with a woman who probably never chose her religion or the peripherals that goes with it. I know we can actually be effective carers by just doing our jobs but I can assure you that our job is actually enhanced so much more when we engage emotionally with our patients. We feel their joys so much more and the endorphins Produced serves to make it a worthwhile goal. Try and explore if you are a little bit more complicated than you appear to be. Search for your humanity!
  2. by   Here.I.Stand
    Quote from ~Mi Vida Loca~

    Her "Crossing that border, was it hard??"

    *audible gasp from the curtain room next to her*

    Me (without missing a beat and with a completely straight face) "Nah with El Nino it wasn't so bad. The water was barely deep. Now the boat ride from Norway was far worse and took 8 months"
    Oh yeah, and your longboat probably wasn't comfortable either. And if you opted for our people's traditionally preserved cod instead of catching fresh fish......
  3. by   ZombieRain
    Quote from Avid reader
    And this makes you immune from empathizing with a woman who probably never chose her religion or the peripherals that goes with it. I know we can actually be effective carers by just doing our jobs but I can assure you that our job is actually enhanced so much more when we engage emotionally with our patients. We feel their joys so much more and the endorphins Produced serves to make it a worthwhile goal. Try and explore if you are a little bit more complicated than you appear to be. Search for your humanity!
    Ehhhhh our job is enhanced so much more when we engage emotionally with patients, but your fallback for an incorrect worldview is disdain and sarcasm.

    It all just boils down to I should empathize with the people you would empathize with. And I suspect that will hold true with everyone, including the disdained.

    I'll likely end up in corrections to start and mental health later on so I can lean more to yes, murder really is wrong and no, there aren't really smurfs in the room rather than trying to wade through who I need to be culturally sensitive to and whose tears I need to wipe away when a medical student realizes there very certainly is a group of people on earth who think they would be better off if he didn't exist.
  4. by   Davey Do
    Quote from nursel56
    What I see there is a bigoted, most likely poorly educated man spouting his warped belief system
    Yeah, nursel- consider the source

    Years ago, there was this patient who insulted me for some reason or another. I replied, "You know, your words would bother me. If I had any respect for you." The patient later apologized and I told them that they had redeemed themselves and won some respect from me. All's well that ends well.

    Perhaps my reply was not the most appropriate, but therapeutic results occurred.

    "Something is important because we give it importance."

    The medical student made this individual's beliefs important. She allowed them to be important enough to affect her emotionally. There needs to be a separation of personalities and principles here. The principle is that we're here to perform a service and not to make another's beliefs, or personality, important.
  5. by   Avid reader
    Quote from ZombieRain
    Ehhhhh our job is enhanced so much more when we engage emotionally with patients, but your fallback for an incorrect worldview is disdain and sarcasm.

    It all just boils down to I should empathize with the people you would empathize with. And I suspect that will hold true with everyone, including the disdained.

    I'll likely end up in corrections to start and mental health later on so I can lean more to yes, murder really is wrong and no, there aren't really smurfs in the room rather than trying to wade through who I need to be culturally sensitive to and whose tears I need to wipe away when a medical student realizes there very certainly is a group of people on earth who think they would be better off if he didn't exist.
    The problem with empathy is that you either have it or you don't. It's not really an acquired trait. It also applies in almost every situation. You see things from other people's perspectives. It is a good thing to have as a nurse, not so much for a Dr, but definitely for a nurse. As an experienced mental health nurse, I'd stay away from Psych nursing especially if corrections appeals to you.
  6. by   Avid reader
    Quote from Davey Do
    Yeah, nursel- consider the source

    Years ago, there was this patient who insulted me for some reason or another. I replied, "You know, your words would bother me. If I had any respect for you." The patient later apologized and I told them that they had redeemed themselves and won some respect from me. All's well that ends well.

    Perhaps my reply was not the most appropriate, but therapeutic results occurred.

    "Something is important because we give it importance."

    The medical student made this individual's beliefs important. She allowed them to be important enough to affect her emotionally. There needs to be a separation of personalities and principles here. The principle is that we're here to perform a service and not to make another's beliefs, or personality, important.
    Sometimes the inexperienced have problems separating their feelings.
  7. by   ~Mi Vida Loca~RN
    Quote from Here.I.Stand
    Oh yeah, and your longboat probably wasn't comfortable either. And if you opted for our people's traditionally preserved cod instead of catching fresh fish......
    The struggle was real, lost almost everyone to dysentery!

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