Sen Clinton walks a day in a nurse's shoes

[bethin]

"I think that as a result of our time together, Senator Clinton has a better understanding of the energy and hard work it takes to care for patients for 12 hours and then come home to raise a family," Estrada said in a statement. "I'd welcome her back on the job any time."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/14/clinton-walks-a-day-in-the-shoes-of-a-nurse/

It was only a day, but it's a step in the right direction.

[BBFRN, BSN, PhD]

And your the first one I have ever heard to have said that. Managers and supervisors.

Huh? Could you elaborate?

[CRNI-ICU20]

There's also a very interesting article on-line that is linked to the Clintons when Bill was govenor of Arkansas. It seems that an unscrupulous doctor who was head of the prison system hospitals at that time was using prisoners for obtaining blood products, such as plasma and other blood components which were sold to pharmaceutical companies to make factor 8 and other types of "medications" . Many of these prisoners were diseased with HepC and HIV, and yet, their blood was used to make the products. Some of it was sold again, after manufacture to Canada, (which is one reason why Canada wanted to sue the US govt' over this)and thousands of hemophiliacs in their country became infected with HIV and HepC.....which caused their health care system to bear a huge monetary and humanity burden.

The FDA shut them down two times, but as soon as they left town, Mr. Clinton allowed by governor order , for the practices to resume....here's the information......it's almost too heinous to imagine....but greed does drive some people to horrible acts.

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=3732

[CRNI-ICU20]

Here's a more global perspective of what other media outlets who investigated this situation had to say:

http://prorev.com/blood.htm

It's quite the eye opener....

I would never vote for someone who is married to a person like this....ever.

[teeituptom, BSN, RN]

Informative article. Full of Bologna. and misconstruations. Back in the late 70s, and early 80s there was such a great lack of knowledge worldwide about HIV. That for this article to sit there and try to blame the government and Clinton for this is just rehashing the past and putting a different spin on it.

[CRNI-ICU20]

Incorrect, TEEITUPTOM. The incidents occured long after the HIV awareness was part and parcel of checking blood, checking sources. If it was all bologna as you say, then why did the Doctor who headed up the program, a CLINTON supporter, end up in jail over it??? hmmm???

Canada certainly didn't consider it a pile of horse pucky....they filed a class action against our government over it, which has NEVER been brought to the courts, because the Clintons while in office used their power in the White House to block it's course through the court system. I don't think the 20,000-plus people in Canada think this is just REHASHING the PAST....they have to live with their disease every day, and it isn't cheap or easy for them....many have died as a result of their tainted drug....the company that manufactured this factor 8 is now tanked, because they were sued....SO, IF IT WAS ALL A LIE, THEN 20,000 PLUS PEOPLE, AND TWO GOVERNMENTS, AND TWO COMPANIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER WERE ALL SUING ONE ANOTHER OVER A PILE OF BOLOGNA??? I find your reasoning to require an even greater act of faith....the facts are the facts, Tom.

Many people do not want to hear truth about a "favorite son/daughter"....but this REALLY DID HAPPEN.

If it wasn't true, then the FDA must have been shutting down ???what??? in Arkansas??? It's on their RECALL list TOM....the blood products. And yes!! The government does have ownership of this, as do the Clintons....THEY WERE IN CHARGE....If your loved one received a tainted blood derived medication, wouldn't you want those responsible to pay??

Our government was testing blood since 1985 for HIV....here's the article that chronicles those times....in fact our government mandated that homosexuals could not give blood because of the risk....yet in Bill Clinton's prison system, ANY SICK PRISONER ,SOME LAYING NEAR DEATH, WERE "TAPPED " FOR BLOOD DONATION....http://www.avert.org/hiv-testing-usa.htm

[CRNI-ICU20]

clinton was governor of arkansas during much of the 1980s when the state continued to run its prison blood program even as other states shut down such programs. two longtime clinton friends were closely involved in supervising the blood program at cummins prison in grady, ark.

leonard dunn, a former pine bluff banker who served as president of health management associates (hma), is credited with keeping the prison plasma program alive. in 1978 hma, a private company, was granted permission to run both the medical and plasma programs at cummins prison. dunn is a personal friend of clinton, was a senior member of his gubernatorial 1990 re-election team and was appointed to the arkansas industrial development commission. richard mays, another clinton ally, was a little rock lawyer and judge to whom dunn reportedly gave the title of "ombudsman" for the hma in 1985 and to whom he allegedly paid $25,000 on a two-year contract that hma was unable to produce under investigation.

the plasma program had begun in the 1960s as a way for inmates and the prison system to make extra money. but by 1982 the food and drug administration (fda) had asked companies that made blood products to stop purchasing prison plasma. it was considered to be too risky because it often was found to contain deadly hiv and hepatitis c.

francis henderson, a pine bluff pediatrician who founded hma in 1978, according to investigators, was responsible for finding buyers for the prison blood during the early eighties. at one point, henderson told the investigators, "historically, this [was] the worst possible tame to [sell plasma]. i called all over the world and finally got one group in canada who would take the contract"

that group was continental pharma, the biggest blood broker in canada. in turn, cryosan sold the plasma to corporations in switzerland, spain, japan and italy as well as canadian-based connaught laboratories, which pooled it with other blood products needed by hemophiliacs to get their blood to clot. this plasma was sold throughout canada.

the cummins prison-blood program reportedly was ordered shut down at least three times for safety deficiencies, but each time was granted approval to reopen. by 1985, clinton's friend dunn was at hma's helm, lobbying with state officials to get hma's contract renewed. this deadly program was not ended until 1994.

this article taken from:

more bad blood out of arkansas - arkansas prisons responsible for selling tainted blood plasma to canada

insight on the news, march 12, 2001 by james harder

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

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