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United way receives donations from the public as well as grants and other funding from the State and Federal Governments. In other words, other people have paid money so that some people can get the care they need. It isn't "free", it's paid for....but by other people. Those that need it get it.
This is exactly the idea of ACA.
People complain that they don't want to have to pay for other people's healthcare, but WE ALREADY ARE! It's just not done efficiently enough, and widespread enough, to guarantee that EVERYONE can get care. You're right that people would have to adjust their expectations overall, but also bear in mind that for all those people who currently have private health insurance, their lives don't change. They still see their doctors and get the same care they always have. ACA just makes it so that there's guaranteed funding for the clinics and ED services that people use now....and the cost of MY care will go down because my doctors and hospital aren't "making up for" those who didn't pay today, so the billing will be more realistic. As it stands, an in-patient pays ten bucks for a Tylenol because of the three other guys who didn't pay a dime.
Actually this is getting to a part that I want expound on.......Speaking for myself, most of you have realized that I do not support ACA. I am a generous person and I do give to charities and to my neighbors in need. At times, when I venture to Houston, I even give money to panhandlers. However, healthcare is only one of the problems areas, but it is the one we are discussing so I will try to stick to it. However if we do not include the others it allows for the defenders to make arguments like..."Healthcare omission will not fix this" But I am still stating that it is a start. So here goes...... I believe a person has the right to life and is free to do whatever they see fit to do with it. I dismiss the notion that we are all in this together, especially when you are comparing New York with California with Texas and so on. I believe, I have the right to live and do what I see fit with that life.Which includes having the right to earn an income and disperse it at my discretion. I do believe as a civilization that we need the staples of congruency and need to pay to be a part of it. However, those staples should include things that are uniformly interstate. Examples are of course infrastructure, Foreign defense, payment for essential personnel to carry out the BEST INTEREST to all and other things of the like. However, many of the people that we are paying and many programs that we finance are not within the scope of the Federal government. Each individual, and family, and then municipality and then county/parish and eventually state are responsible to create and maintain the social programs that they, AS A WHOLE, see as a NEED that they wish to "work together" to RESOLVE. If a people are wanting to create a healthcare system in their family they acquire private insurance. However larger groups (employers, unions, and even self-employed persons) come together and create a group insurance coverage. The larger the group the more bargaining power they acquire. The same could apply to cities, counties and states if they so choose, this is within all of their scope of existence. I would go even further and say that if ALL AMERICANS were united in the decision it could happen on the federal level. However, there is no consensus surrounding this reform and therefore should be nixed and the people that see this as a priority NEED that needs to be RESOLVED in their area can still do it with their people. However for me and the bulk of the people that live in my part of the country, we pride ourselves in being self-sufficient and take personal offense at being mandated to relinquish our income to anything that we have not agreed to have taken from us. I state again that I believe that if the Federal government would get out of many different projects that are not theirs to solve the people who are affected will find a way.
As far as healthcare being a right I don't care if you say basic human or constitutional or generic, I cannot compute. A right is something that someone has that cannot be infringed upon. A person does not have healthcare it must be obtained. However, my "ability" to earn an income (not the income itself) is a right and if someone infringes upon it (by all rights stealing it --- taking what is mine without my consent) I will fight tooth and nail; to keep what is mine.
As far as the post speaking of the federal government mandating certain requirements for communicable diseases, that is an area where the people had chosen by a consensus that it was in the Country's BEST INTEREST. (By the way, I do support the CDC, however the FDA needs an overhaul and so does the USDA)
As far as the posts trying to assure people that we will be allowed to maintain our own insurance, that is yet to be seen. Once the federal government, enforces their regulations on the providers many may go under and many others may bail, in fact several companies have already bailed refusing to offer healthcare "I'm sorry I can provide you with your life, auto and home insurance but we don't offer healthcare"
As far as the inefficiency of the current system: Yes it is and yes it needs to be annulled but not replaced by the federal government, that is where the problem lies....... I will never want to enter into an contractual agreement with the entire country. Problems are best solved in smaller units.
As far as the issue where people try to intimidate others by pulling out the moral and ethical card: I am not insulted because I know that I am very generous person who is willing to assist those that I can, within the limits that I have. I cannot help everyone or I myself will be in need of help and for me; being self-sufficient is a vital moral issue. I also am insistent on policing the need for assistance with proof of citizenship (by photo ID), random drug testing, mandatory work searches (it also needs to be stressed that a job does not have to be to your liking nor what you went to school for nor rejected because you aren't happy with the wage or any other excuse not to work) AND significant community service to give back to the system.
As to the idea that the bulk of Americans without insurance are hardworking, low paid, honest to goodness Americans. I will not dispute; some are and some aren't. However first you must separate the two and the ones who fall in the second category must be allowed to fall on their face and be forced to fight to survive, in order to (as a community) assist them to become a productive member of society. One poster brought up the animal kingdom helping their own kind. That may be true but only for the members that fight. If an animal is willing to die the other animals walk away. Now as to our fellow hard working low paid Americans, I do hope that they are assisted with their needs. They need to find a place in society that is open to their needs. Also if I am going to be assisting them they would need to have their finances in order, in other words they cannot have a house that is deemed excessive, nor other excessive toys or behavior. They would need to realize that they are (at this time in life) needing to make sacrifices in order to not have to fulfill their personal responsibilities and become a "burden" to their fellow citizens. If the Federal government is doing their job by staying COMPLETELY out of things states will be free to assist. If the states aren't being strangled by the Federal Government they will not be in the dire straights they are now facing which free up the Municipalities to assist and the people of America are for the most part very generous anyway.
The last area I can think of is the posts that try scare tactics "what if it was me?" Well first I would not run to the government under any circumstances that isn't what it is there for!!! Second my family raised us knowing that you take care of your own, so if I was down on my luck like many of my family members are or have been, I'd have to eat a little humility pie and ask them for assistance. When it comes to life sustaining procedures or other catastrophic medical diagnosis most in my family are no codes due to the expense and what have you. But regardless, we would do what we had to to take care of each other if that isn't enough we'd reach out a little further to extended family and maybe the church if that still didn't get us there we'd keep searching. The point here is we would help each other to GET BACK UP AND BE PRODUCTIVE. None of us are rich and probably never will be, but I sort of like the idea that in America it is possible. If we allow the government to continue to take our income, in the name of the common good, that hope and inspiration will go by the way side.
As to comparing America to Europe states or Canada neither are a good comparison because they are individual states NOT 50 UNITED states. When the USA joined forces with each other it was not to share the burden of one state with that of another; it was to solidify our borders for security from abroad. That is why we have 50 BONs and a group is working on the compact nursing states.