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No. 40
from nicurn001
Old May 25, 2008, 11:43 AM

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The bottom line is that this policy is illegal , the management is trying to bully staff , into acquiescence and accept working off the clock rather than really staffing to acuity and safety .
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No. 41
from bollweevil
Old May 27, 2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeHomeRN View Post
Consider yourself very lucky. About 98% of end-of-shift OT is caused by poor staffing ratios combined with endless charting--which isn't done DURING the shift due to time constraints..
And you probably don't usually get bathroom or meal breaks, either, I'd guess.
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No. 42
from diveRN
Old May 27, 2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bollweevil View Post
And you probably don't usually get bathroom or meal breaks, either, I'd guess.
Actually, about 90% of the time, I take an hour for lunch (two combined 15 minute "rest periods" and 30 minute lunch) and use the restroom whenever I need to. Of course if I have a pt going south or am getting an admit, I plan accordingly.

My post turns the topic away from the original post, so I'm not going to press it, but I'm still curious about why all the added time. Am I busy? Most nights, yeah, but other nights there is time where I'm struggling to find things to keep busy with. I'd say that one, sometimes two shift in six, the unit will be very quiet so much that I'll get to crack a book for at least an hour. We sit right outside our pt's room so we can watch monitors and do other things.
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No. 43
from iluvivt
Old Jun 08, 2008, 06:58 AM

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It is true that you should never clock out and continue to work,even if is just charting. What employers can do is require you to get an overtime slip signed and if you do not get it signed they can say you did not follow work instructions. That is what they do at my place of employment. Sometimes I can not get anyone to sign it so I just blow it off and do what is best for the patient. I refuse to work for free and I sign out when I am done, It is illegal for anyone to alter your punches or change your timecard without your permission.
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No. 44
from Batman24
Old Jun 15, 2008, 02:33 AM

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Never clock out until you leave. God forbid you get hurt you can't collect WC. You also aren't covered under hospital insurance if you aren't on the clock. Either of these two things occur and the hospital will be lying through their teeth that they never said to clock out and you will have an unnecessary mess on your hands.

My employer hasn't tried this as of yet. I work with great nurses and support staff who are mature and competent professionals. If we can't get out it's because we were totally understaffed which is par for the course. Trust me we would love nothing more than to clock out on time after putting in over 12 hours. I'd gladly forfeit the O/T but it's just not realistic.
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No. 45
from psalm
Old Jun 15, 2008, 05:11 AM

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It is rare indeed to have my 30 min. lunch AND two 15 min. breaks in my 8 hour night shift, very rare! It's not my time management, it is life. When the pts. all want their PRN pain and/or nausea meds and they are IVP and I want to get that done so the day shift nurse can get started w/o doing that...
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No. 46
from kriseh
Old Nov 16, 2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by barbyann View Post
Yes, we are encouraged to clock out no later than 0730. I am sometimes there after 0730 because of being unable to give verbal report because of late staff, interruptions, etc. I now leave the floor at exactly 0730, go out to my car and continue with verbal report by calling from my cell phone. This way I am off the clock, starting my drive home and still completing my duties. If I have had a hectic night and paperwork is not completed I send myself an email outlining the situation. The email is timed, dated and stamped. This way if I am called in for paperwork violations I can show them I made an effort. Of course I always complete essential documention (I&O's, change of status), but the fall risk, skin score and endless repetitive nonsense I will not complete if running behind.
As an oncoming nurse I wouldn't feel comfortable accepting an assignment that I don't get report on until the off going nurse is off the clock and on her way home- no way.
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No. 47
Old Nov 16, 2008, 07:12 PM

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Give me a good old fashioned hard nosed charge nurse any day. There would still be overtime- but good charge nurses know who is goofing off, and put a stop to it.
They also make sure that nurses aren't sitting when others are running. (My biggest peeve-surfing the internet, looking at catalogs, chatting, while the rest of us are taking care of human beings.)
I haven't seen effective charge nurses in years-
There will always be frequent justifiable overtime, due to our line of work, and management will always complain.
And, true- some abuse the system, hurting the rest of us.
Nothing to do but pray you get a good hard nose charge nurse.
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No. 48
Old Nov 17, 2008, 12:01 AM

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Here's some wording from a local union:
The assumption that overtime worked is the result of poor time management disregards the Nurse’s obligation to their assigned patients and the requirements of providing safe patient care. The Nurse’s license and Hospital job description require the Nurse to complete the patient care ordered by the physician and specified by the nursing care plan. They must accurately document their assessments, record the care given as well as the patient’s response. Then, they must report all pertinent and necessary information to the Nurse assigned to assume the patient care for the next shift. These responsibilities and obligations are paramount. The Nurse’s judgment regarding patient care priorities should prevail in the determination of which aspects of patient care, if any, can safely be postponed in order to avoid overtime
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No. 49
from twistednut
Old Nov 17, 2008, 09:43 PM

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if there is too much work then the mgt needs to look at staffing. Unfortunately mgt is never looking out for the nurses' best interest.
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