Calling In Sick: Dealing With Mental Illness At Work, Part 2

Second in a series about handling the sensitive issues posed by psychiatric disorders in the workplace. Here we explore ways to answer difficult interview questions and challenge employers when they request personal health information. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

If you are a nurse who suffers from a serious mental illness such as bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, you probably have had difficulties in obtaining, and then keeping a job. Many of us have spotty work histories filled with multiple jobs where we stayed only a brief time (AKA job-hopping) and jobs we've lost because of inconsistent performance or poor attendance. Others have spent time on disability due to severe MI that kept them from working for months or even years; once stabilized, they become bored and restless, and decide that it's time to go back to work.

Obviously, there are going to be some gaps in your employment history that you'd just as soon not have to explain. Say you've been inpatient and then had to follow up with intensive outpatient treatment, or you left your last job without notice, and/or you took a few months off to heal. Now you want (and need) to get back into the working world, but first, you have to figure out your next career move.

It's only natural to have reservations about this process. You've heard the horror stories about interviewing and being asked questions that you'd rather not answer; you've heard stories about nurses who had to supply a health history and med list to Employee Health. How do you dance around these delicate situations without either telling the honest truth, or furnishing false information that will get you fired if it's ever discovered?

Though there are no foolproof methods, here are a few pointers for interviews.

One of the most common questions asked of applicants with gaps in employment is, of course, why you left the previous job and what you did during your hiatus. This can be hard to explain when you had a nervous breakdown and then spent some time in the psych unit getting straightened out.

One way to handle this is to say you left to care for someone close (not your frail, elderly grandmother---everyone has one of those!) who suddenly became acutely ill; the prospective employer doesn't have to know that the person who needed the care was YOU. Be sparing with details; for one thing, the interviewer really doesn't care, and for another, you don't want to tell a story so elaborate that you'll forget some small thing and expose your truth-stretching to the light of day. OR---you can say that you yourself were ill, but that you were treated and the problem no longer exists. They don't need to know what kind of illness you had, and in fact have no right to know. That is personal health information protected by HIPAA.

Which leads to another critical matter of concern: the dreaded employee "physical". This is something I personally have never had to undergo, with the exception of the urine drug screen and TB testing. But it's a common enough requirement to present a problem for the nurse with a mental health history that s/he would rather not share with an employer.

Hopefully, you'll have done your homework and applied at a facility which doesn't ask for PHI. Talk to people who work there, ask them how they like working for this company, and casually ask them what is involved in the hiring process. If they tell you they had to supply their health information and a med list, you may want to bypass that company and apply somewhere else; but if your employment options are limited, you may have little choice but to proceed with the application.

If/when you are faced with disclosing your medical history and/or furnishing a med list to employee health, ASK why that information is needed, what it is to be used for, and who may have access to it. In good facilities, only the employee health and infection control nurses can see your information; managers and company officers have no authority to access it, and they can even face sanctions for attempting to view it.

Remember, we do not give up our right to privacy when we become healthcare professionals! Insist upon complete confidentiality when providing your PHI to anyone outside your doctor's office. If it cannot be guaranteed, you're better off looking elsewhere, even if you have to commute.

So why all the secrecy? Why not tell a prospective employer, your boss, or your co-workers about your mental health condition? You know it's not your fault, nor is it a moral failing. You do everything you can to manage it, including taking your medication and seeing your doctor regularly---what is there to be ashamed of? Why must you hide it?

Short answer: you don't, if you're lucky enough to work in an environment that's nurturing and accepting, like my current workplace. Unfortunately, however, most are NOT like that, and nurses who disclose a psychiatric diagnosis---whether voluntarily or through an exacerbation of their illness---all too often find themselves unemployed in some fashion. Even if they remain on the job, they are all too often passed over for promotions and discriminated against in other, more subtle ways, such as being left out of committees and disciplined for mistakes that other nurses get away with routinely.

Ultimately, it's up to the individual as to when, how, and whether to disclose a mental illness that may affect them at work. Now I'd like to invite you, the membership, to share how you have handled these issues, both now and in the past, as well as to offer suggestions to other nurses who are struggling.

To be continued.....

First of all, V, thank you for posting this two part series. I have been blessed to not have a mental illness until recently. I was laid off in April and I think I am clincially depressed. I have been suicidal. Me, the strong one, the nurse in the family who helps everyone else. I have left 3 jobs in the last 4 months because of my depression. Before that, I was at the job I got laid off from for 14 years. So thank you. I am currently seeking treatment, its not working but I am planning to keep on trucking and keep on working on it until I feel better. Now I have decided to take time off to finish some schooling. I'm just appreciative to read this and to know that there are others out there like me, that I AM NOT all alone. take care all.

G.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

Welcome, gleasongirl! I'm glad you've joined Allnurses and hope you'll enjoy the site and all it has to offer. :yes:

I'm sorry to hear of your job woes. Believe me, I can empathize, as I've had nothing but trouble with jobs throughout my working life. At least now there's an explanation for the way I've always gotten restless after a few months, or a year or two, and then found myself in some sort of crisis. I only wish I'd found out years ago.

This is the second of what will be at least a three- or possibly four-part series. In the next installment, we'll discuss self-care strategies and what to do if/when mental illness becomes evident on the job.

Please take care of yourself, see a doctor, and follow his/her recommendations for treatment. It's amazing what medications and psychotherapy can do these days. :)

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
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I disclosed that I had a history of depression which I treated with therapy and meds but stated that at this point I was not in therapy and had weaned myself off all meds -- which is true as far as it goes. I feel that this covers me for disclosing past conditions as well as covering me should I have a relapse in the future that renders me unable to work. Right now I am doing really well and I love working. But if that all falls down I DO want something on my record that says, "Yes, I said I had this in my past, you can't accuse me of deceiving you." Just trying to CYA as best I can...

That has helped me still be in good standing with my recent employer; I don't list it because I didn't make it past probation, because I was having an exacerbation and thought I could "get through it"...lol, what was I thinking?

My new job I have has NO idea... ? and I am returning to a p-doc, where I may be back on some form of meds; guess it will be a bridge I have to cross when I need time off...

Specializes in Registered Nurse.

I'm looking forward to reading the next two articles about mental illness. I too lost my job after about 24 years of employment. I submitted my resignation letter after much criticism and bullying from top management. I was terribly understaffed, basically doing it all. I cried three days at home, and at work. Every time someone looked at me quiet tears would come rolling down my face. My employer noticed and informed me that I could return to my job within 3 months if things did not work out with my new employer. I informed my physician about the anxiety but did not get any help, or medications. My new job did not work out, so I returned to my old employer. Only this time, my position was no longer available and I was forced to start over at the bottom of the food chain in a different department. The rumor is that "I burnt myself out" at work. Starting over at the bottom is not easy. I went back to my physician and asked for help and this time, I was started on anti-depressants. I ask myself is my job that stressful or is this just me? I consider myself lucky to have a job at this time, although, I drag myself in and I'm barely able to make it through the day. So far, I have been on medication for one week and have not noticed a difference. I do not tell anyone at work or family or friends about my "condition". In the past mention of anxiety has resulted in comments such as "toughen up", "ignore it", so it's just between me and the doc now. I have never suffered from mental illness before.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

(((((Marisette)))))

FWIW, antidepressants don't usually kick in right away---they take anywhere from 1-6 weeks to start improving symptoms, and 6-12 weeks to produce a complete response. Please give your treatment a trial of at least a couple more weeks, and then call your doctor if there's no light at the end of the tunnel yet. I know it's frustrating to have to wait for meds to work, but sooner or later it WILL get better, even if you don't have a full response to your current medication. It's the nature of mood disorders.....nothing lasts forever, even though it sure FEELS that way sometimes.

Your depression and anxiety are real. Don't let ignorant statements that people have made in the past make you feel as if your condition isn't a legitimate illness. People can be such idiots sometimes......just because they can't SEE an illness doesn't make it any less the truth for the person who has it.

And, do try not to get too hung up on the term 'mental illness'. This is from someone who needed a whole year to get over what I felt to be the shame of being diagnosed with one. :yes: There are a gazillion nurses out there who are just like you, suffering from depression and anxiety in no small part due to the stresses of the job, and every one of them can be considered 'mentally ill' at the time they're experiencing symptoms. You've got a LOT of company, hon. Hang in there!

Specializes in ED.

I am new to this, tomorrow morning I go for a PTSD evaluation. This is the first time seeking MH care ever, and have been having increased symptoms since opening up at home and with my PCP. Since I'm a vet and I work with the VA I'll be having this done at my place of employment.

I do have some reservations with this but then again I don't. My reservations I think come from my symptoms and my tendancy to keep quiet about everything. I have come open to a few coworkers I know I can trust with similar diagnoses. I feel that in this environment I can be more open about things because they have shown me the same trust when they have had issues. Plus the fact this is a union facility I feel a little more protected (I hope to not be shown otherwise).