SO mad...and not sure I should be. - page 4

by AngelfireRN

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Please forgive the length...it's been a bad day. I work in a clinic that dispenses controlled substances. As such, we have various and sundry very stringent rules in place so as to prescribe as safely and therapeutically as... Read More


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    These are the precise type of people who need to be allowed access to terminations. Do we really need more children with parents like this? At the very least, she recognizes her limitations.
    fromtheseaRN, grownuprosie, JZ_RN, and 1 other like this.
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    What happened to the "do no harm". This post has become about abortion, and shame on you nurses for deciding it is your right to feel that termination would be best. Who elevated you to that position?
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    The comments giving unequivocal support for abortion on demand make me uncomfortable, especially the commentor who had to keep reminding herself to ignore the ethical side of the debate. It's so complicated! That's why I don't work in women's health .

    I have to agree that the patient should have been immediately released from the practice because if you give her an inch, she will take a mile. Readmit her to the practice after the abortion? Fine. Perhaps it would be a wake-up call that getting pregnant again would be a major inconvenience, if only that it interrupts her narcotic access.

    Sad situation all-around.
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    Your not wrong for feeling the way you feel but I would rather her abort this baby then to be doing insane amounts of drugs and really messing this baby up for the rest of his life. She may not have the same moral principle as you, but she knows that her drugs are more important than the baby inside her and for that I applaud her for not ruining anothers life because she has an addiction.
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    Quote from Glazdm
    What happened to the "do no harm". This post has become about abortion, and shame on you nurses for deciding it is your right to feel that termination would be best. Who elevated you to that position?
    How dare we decide it is our right to feel? Last I checked, everyone has the right to feel whatever they want. Just because you disagree, does not mean that our "feelings" are any less valid than yours. We disagree. That's fine. However, shaming everyone that disagrees with you will get you nowhere.
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    Quote from Glazdm
    What happened to the "do no harm". This post has become about abortion, and shame on you nurses for deciding it is your right to feel that termination would be best. Who elevated you to that position?
    In the end it doesn't matter what ANY of us think is the best...it matters what the patient thought was best for HER. And she made that choice. I'm also guessing she didn't mention any pregnancy because she knew she was terminating.

    (For the record, I'm also in the "it's for the best" group).
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    "In cases of rape, incest, extreme youth, maternal danger, or a known fetal condition"

    Without knowing can you rule out that its not any of the above as her reasoning for terminating the pregnancy? All of those scenarios can be explained into your case except for the extreme youth and congenital condition. Sorry you had a bad day.
    Last edit by RNJHUPHL on Aug 2, '12
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    To also note, many may find that telling hey I'm in an incestual relationship so me and baby daddy decided to get rid of it may be too forward. I don't know of many abuse victims who a) are able to get an abortion b) tell you that they are pregnant because of incest. Maternal danger is a vague term because if I'm dehydrated and can't maintain fluids then it is maternal danger. Incest can cause fetal abnormalities so this could be all in one. Maybe people react the way that they want to react especially if they don't want someone to know about it. Being with abuse victims in the pass women are tough to crack and women will lie most of the time to protect the abuser. It is hard to judge.
    Last edit by RNJHUPHL on Aug 2, '12 : Reason: typo
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    I have to agree with RNJHUPHL. I am 30 weeks pregnant right now and this entire pregnancy has been a "Maternal Danger" there is so much that could go wrong that if I wanted to get a abortion simply for the fact that this baby is killing me wouldnt justify me getting an abortion in that respect. What this woman has is an addiction and during my clinicals I saw crack babies and its not pretty or fair to the baby that their mother did that to them because they had issues they couldnt get over.
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    This is not an abortion debate: this is a thread about giving narcotics to pregnant patients. Its much more of a medicolegal debate. Lets stay on topic please.
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