Two VERY low ball job offers in the last month...(management and leadership!) - page 3

Ok, a little background. I have my background in management which is what I did before I became a nurse. I now have five years nursing experience as well as my ASN, BSN, and my MSN. I have been interviewing for jobs in... Read More

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    Several of the hospitals here just laid off a slew of nurses due to budget cuts, so you'll have to excuse me for not trying to negotiate my pay as a new grad.
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    Lol, heck, forget about blaming new grads. There are a bunch of experienced nurses having to take whatever is offered just to be employed. Blame the schools and media who keep insisting there is still a nursing shortage!
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    The unfortunate reality is that people need to work. The economy is dismal, so if the OP declines, they just might find someone who will accept that offer....and they know this.

    Also, management within another field does not translate into nursing experience, so you can't count that. Your skills are transferrable OP, and may help in landing an offer, but many nurses have prior work experience, diplomas and degrees.

    Nursing is at a low point for sure. More layoffs and restructuring throughout Canada as well, despite the fact that nurses are overworked. It's everywhere.

    Continue to negotiate, keep looking for work, or accept the offer. Those are your choices. Hopefully, something better will come along.
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    Quote from 07302003
    I've found that unless your previous work experience was *in nursing*, those who hire don't count it as experience. So they're looking at you as having no management experience. So you may have to take a more entry level management salary to get nursing management experience. But, if you decide you want to do that, I'd make sure to get hired in somewhere with growth potential, like one of the big hospital systems. Just my 2 cents.
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    Are you in a city or rural area, OP?
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    The diploma mills and schools that award nursing degrees to anyone who has a previous degree in anything from communications to hotel management (BSN express programs) are to blame. The market has been completely saturated with any and everyone who may not have actually WANTED to be nurses, but were sold a line about the "nursing shortage" and the ability to "always have a job." CNN featured a segment about new grads that have not been able to secure their first job in nursing after 2 years. This was unheard of when I entered nursing in the 90's. I have watched the field I enjoy change so much and the whole debacle has created a great deal of resentment in me. Having to work in a field where nurses are now made to give away such hard work and responsibility for so little is a real slap in the face and a setback both professionally and financially. My hope is that people wise up about the fact that there IS NO NURSING SHORTAGE and focus their educational pursuits elsewhere. Sorry if you're offended. It's just the way it is.
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    Quote from CapeCodMermaid
    Do you have experience as a DON or ADON? If not why would you expect to make as much as an experienced DON? And please don't tell people they shouldn't accept a jo. For $17 or $18 an hour. That may well be the only job they can get.
    This. I have military experience as a senior manager, however that in no way gives me any pull for any sort of nursing management. One managerial position does not qualify you for a managerial position in another field

    Posting from my phone, ease forgive my fat thumbs!
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    Quote from crazy&cuteRN
    I totally agree. Well said. OP, I'm not sure where you live but I don't know any new grad that makes "17-18/hr. Please don't be offended that some of us with ADNs make MORE than you. Five years is great experience but not sure if they would quailify you for more money. There are others with way more experience than you making what you were offered.
    So my advice, is to take it or leave it.

    Dream on.
    I have a MSN that I paid good money for that I am not going to let it go to waste. I'll leave it for the ADN nurses to pick up the crumbs.
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    Quote from wish_me_luck
    Are you in a city or rural area, OP?

    City large one with several hospital systems.
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    Quote from LynnLRN
    Maybe they aren't well established organizations and they cannot afford to pay more?

    Then they shouldn't be hiring if they can't afford to pay market value. Just my $0.02.

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