Young, Thin, and Cute New Hires

The management at my place of employment recently hired a group of nurses who are all youngish, slim, and physically attractive as a response to declining patient satisfaction scores. Is the solution working? We can only wait and see. Nurses Relations Article

My workplace, a freestanding specialty hospital owned by a for-profit corporation that operates multiple facilities across the United States, has been having recent troubles with low Press Ganey patient satisfaction scores. This does not bode well in an era where patient satisfaction scores are tied to Medicare reimbursement rates.

Patients typically complain on the survey forms about random issues such as the food, the semiprivate rooms, their loud roommates, and the aloof manner of some of the physicians. Some mention that nursing staff failed to keep them informed. Once in a blue moon a patient comments that the hospital employs too many 'foreign nurses' or has staff who cannot 'speak English.' Whatever.

To combat the chronically low patient satisfaction scores, the managerial staff implemented a mix of interventions which they believed would make patients and families feel more 'cared for.' Hourly rounds, bedside rounding at the change of shift, more scripting, and more smiles have been put into action without much positive effect on the Press Ganey scores.

"What was management's next solution?" you're probably wondering. Administration announced they were hiring good people who were more friendly, skilled, positive, and indicated during their interviews that they actually wanted to care for patients. Well, the latest new hires have initiated more questions than answers.

Where do I start? They are all youngish, ranging from early 20s to early 30s. They are all fairly slim, nicely shaped, and physically attractive. The most experienced new hire has about six years of nursing experience, while the remaining nurses have anywhere from one to three years under their belts. The majority have no acute care experience and are learning certain procedural skills for the very first time: starting peripheral IV access, administering blood, performing wound care, operating feeding tube pumps, and so forth.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not an 'old nurse' who is 'eating the young.' I am 32 years old with seven years of experience, and I had no acute care experience prior to taking a job at this facility several years ago. The new hires all have good personalities and are seemingly pleasant to work with. In addition, we all must start somewhere.

However, they are not necessarily more skilled or more eager to care for patients like management said they would be. Several of these nurses remain seated at the nurses station while staring into a smart phone as call lights are ringing. A few walk into patient rooms without employing basic relational skills such as knocking, introducing themselves, or explaining what they are planning to do. I'm not complaining; I'm merely observing.

Here are my thoughts on this issue. Rather than hire a mix of highly experienced and relatively inexperienced nurses, the managerial staff opted to save on labor costs by hiring younger nurses with a certain attractive look that patients and families might find appealing. They hired no new grads because, I assume, they did not want to spend the staggering amount of money on 3-month orientation periods. They hired no one with 15, 20, 25, or 30+ years of experience because human resources would be forced to offer highly experienced nurses a significantly higher rate of pay per the wage grid. They hired no nurses who were badly overweight, gray-haired, or outwardly appeared to have health problems that would drive up insurance costs. To presumably get the most bang for their buck, most of the new hires have between one and three years of experience.

How is this experiment turning out? We shall wait and see.

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Specializes in Intermediate care.

I still don't understand how better looking nurses will boost satisfaction. Have you ever looked at those questions they ask? It never asks "are you satisfied with having a cute, young nurse?" Or anything related. Perhaps professionalism but that isn't the same thing.

And every person deserves respect regardless of age, gender, color, etc. Isn't that what we learned in nursing school?

Personally I agree that everyone needs the gracious extension of respect. Now I may not respect them to the point of honor--as in that given to a mentor. There are degrees of respect I think; but every human being should be offered a sense of respect as fellow human beings, even if they are, um, well, less-than-wonderful (euphemism). And it doesn't matter if they extend respect to me or not. I get that people that are, um, less-than-wonderful don't have respect for themselves, therefore they cannot show genuine respect for others. I do have respect for myself, and as a human being, I believe extending respect is an act of grace and respect for humanity, and that it should be offered to other human beings without prejudice of any sort. Doesn't matter if you favor or like someone personally. You don't have to be BFFs or a nobel prize winner to get respect. It's more along the lines of an Albert Schweitzer kind of thing--linking respect for others to a "reverence for life."

Deserve really has nothing to do with it, b/c it's about grace.

At any rate, back to topic, why would this kind of thing be far-fetched? Look at our society and the mentality of it? If this approach to hiring nurses is true, it certainly shows short-sighted thinking on the part of admin. I think more than anything else, it's about saving some bucks.

The youngest of the applicants are cheaper, and they will work any kind of crappy schedule and take a lot of nonsense, and the insurance probabilities in terms of pulling too much from the self-insured benefits program are much less--from an actuarial standpoint. (The part about the young newbies working any crappy schedule and taking a lot of nonsense is mostly the true HR and mgt translation of their "lofty" notion that young and new is preferable b/c they are "easily shaped and they supposedly don't have to 'unlearn' anything." That too is bogus. All people have loads of stuff to unlearn. People are not as simple as blank tablets. Their own innate processing along with environmental influences begins very early, and these things will vary significantly among people. The process of "unlearning" is simply the process of, well, learning. If you study math you see that unlearning and learning is a part of the process--same thing with learning different languages. So the notion of this preference for those that don't have to unlearn is utter hogwash. Think about it. You don't have to rip out people's "motherboards" and replace them with new ones in order for them to learn to do things your institution's way. What a load of elephant dung! (I imagine elephant dung is big. LOL)

Being more physically appealing is perhaps a bit of icing on the cake to some; but it's more about money and being easy to, well, manipulate. That might sound strong, but that is a part of the work process. I mean working is about swapping utilities. So, nurses can easily enough be viewed as "furniture." Hospitals re-decorate the physical surroundings after all; so why not look fresh with the "moving furniture," oops, I mean nursing staff as well?

Funny, if docs start looking a little long-in-the-tooth, well, that makes them appear more experienced and expert.

Anyway, at #228, I'd say this thread is definitely reaching epic thread status.:whistling:

Specializes in Intermediate care.

I said it from the start. New grad (especially young) will put up with anything for a job. Crappy pay, crappy hours and to be walked on by management by wanting more more more. The MAJORITY of us don't have kids that we put first. We pick up hours when you call in sick because a snow day was called. And its still cheaper to pay us time&half than to pay you your regular pay. We low to travel and vacation but we don't have the PTO to do it that often like you all do.

It isn't about the looks. Most educated young people who take care of themselves are considered attractive.

Specializes in Intermediate care.

This isn't greys anatomy, you know that right? That hospital hires based on looks. Not real life ones.

The youngest of the applicants are cheaper, and they will work any kind of crappy schedule and take a lot of nonsense, and the insurance probabilities in terms of pulling too much from the self-insured benefits program are much less--from an actuarial standpoint. (The part about the young newbies working any crappy schedule and taking a lot of nonsense is mostly the true HR and mgt translation of their "lofty" notion that young and new is preferable b/c they are "easily shaped and they supposedly don't have to 'unlearn' anything." That too is bogus.

Some people are like this, yes. But based on the sheer numbers of posts on this forum of young grads describing their first experience in the workplace as "abusive" and looking for new places of employment, I'd say most newbies are less likely to take this kind of treatment than you'd think.

You can only push a person so far, regardless of age.

Specializes in ER.

Far too many people confuse experience with talent.

Specializes in ER.

This is the cattiest thread I have ever read. meeoowww!

Perhaps the title should have just been "cute and thin" new hires without putting age into it. I'm curious to know how the OP knew all of their ages. My mom is 49 years young and people think she and I are sisters ( I'm 24). People assume she is in her 20's-30's.

I agree with the OP however, come on now we are posting on AlL nurses, so whenever the words "young" or "old" are mentioned people through a complete fit.

The young nurses don't feel appreciated, and are "eaten up" and the "old" nurses are sick of the young nurses for whatever reason.

Specializes in ED, Critical Care.

Yeah I'm late to the thread.

Reference the pic on page 1.

Second on the left is pretty darn cute!:yes:

I think some people are confusing the word "respect" with the word "courtesy".

Everyone equally deserves to be treated with courtesy. But respect, by definition, is earned.

Does the new grad just off orientation deserve the EXACT SAME level of respect as the nurse who's been working on the unit for decades?

Brandon, I hate to disagree. High admiration as respect is earned. Sincere courtesy requires respect; that is, respect in the sense of reverence for life, reverence for others. Courtesy may be mechanical, but true respect for life and others is a core philosophy that extends from oneself to other human beings. Respect on the level of high esteen and honor is different.

I am talking about respect for fellow humans as people, persons, individuals--not something on the surface. Again, I am talking about an issue of grace, whereby the respectulness is not superficial, but it is genuine.

What I am talking about has nothing to do with the level of honor and respect toward someone for which you would emulate, or for which you have deep admiration. That is the earned kind of respect and honor.

That is very different.

What I am saying is a core philosophy of how to approach fellow human beings, and ideally it's the best way to deal with others--even when they are a pain in the orifice. And for sure, it's not always easy. ;)

Some people are like this, yes. But based on the sheer numbers of posts on this forum of young grads describing their first experience in the workplace as "abusive" and looking for new places of employment, I'd say most newbies are less likely to take this kind of treatment than you'd think.

You can only push a person so far, regardless of age.

What about when they have $60,000+ debt to pay off for their undergrad? What about when they have mortgages and kids and bills?

You think a lot of nurses aren't leaving nursing because they love the way nurses are treated? LOL

It's the same issue either way--economics--utility. You can look at it this way from the nurse's perspective or the company's (hospital's) perspective, but in the end it's about basic economics.

You have to be able to show added value for dollars spent on you; and that's getting harder to do in the current economic situation. It's about economics urvival.

Also soldier, think about. In a few years the new nurses will become"old" in the sense of dollars and willingness to take a lot of crap.That's why these hospital-based residency programs that many places are "good" for hospitals. They can cycle through new grads or very newbies year after year--picking up newbies and dumping those that don't "fit" anymore. Nurses are furniture. They are disposable, and even though you have to understand the economics, the professional influences in nursing have not done enough to change this when places treat nurses as disposable.

Since that is unlikely to change much, and in my life as a nurse--a time when nursing and healthcare have seen the biggest changes at one generational point as ever in history, it's about continually re-inventing yourself in order to survive. For me it's not about becoming like those that treat nurses as disposable or play games--political or otherwise from within.

I determine my value and worth on my terms--and my terms of quite reasonable. I will compromise only to a point of honest fairness. In order to do that, one has to be able to have more than one position in this field. Again, you have to be like the sharks that must keep swimming in order to survive. I don't mean acting as sharks in the sense of how to treat others. No. I mean to be as a shark in the sense that you are always able to work, and if that means having to work for more than one employer and so forth, so be it.

In this environment, nurses can't put all their eggs in one basket. God knows the healthcare employers aren't doing that. You have to be at least as smart as they are in this regard.

You think a lot of nurses aren't leaving nursing because they love the way nurses are treated? LOL

Actually.... if you read my post, that's EXACTLY what I said. And I think that goes for people of all ages.

The young aren't the only ones afflicted with money issues these days (thus making them more likely to take crap from employers). The economy affects young and old, and if you want proof, you've got the new grads with mortgages and debt that can't get hired right next to the older nurses who are "too experienced" (and thus too expensive) to be retained, yet unable to retire financially. Those folks have mortgages, debts and families to support, too.

Honestly, any more, it's a guessing game when it comes to predicting when/why someone will leave. What will ruin them faster? Abuse or bankruptcy?