Why is it okay for Doctors to yell at Nurses? - page 6
I'm currently in Nursing School to get my RN license and I noticed something that is bothering me. Maybe I'm still naive, I just find it baffling to hear how it's almost seen as a given that doctors... Read More
Nov 30, '12 by PMFB-RNQuote from JZ_RN*** Perfect. Good for you!I said, I'm a nurse, not a printer repairman. I don't know what the problem is, sorry. Then walked away.
Nov 30, '12 by ♪♫ in my ♥Another point is that not only do we nurses have a role in not tolerating poor behavior but we also have a role in rewarding good behavior.
I go out of my way to thank docs who make my life easier by communicating with me or who respond to my requests. I try to help them out by anticipating their needs and attending to the little stuff like raising the bed up when the doc's in an awkward position or focusing the light for them or just asking if they need anything or fetching things for them even when it's not my patient or responsibility.
Most of them seem to respond and to appreciate my efforts to help them...
It's kind of a pay-it-forward thing.
Dec 2, '12 by Anaya_1deWow, thank you everyone for taking the time to respond to this thread!!! Reading all the different posts has helped to ease my concern about getting yelled at all the time once I start working as an RN. I'm glad that many of you cleared up my misconception about the expression "being yelled at", and that it is not the same as "being screamed at". In my mind I was imagining doctors throwing tamper tantrums left and right and literally screaming at the nurses. I'm glad to read that most hospitals out there wouldn't tolerate this kind of behavior in this day and age. And I'm relieved to hear that chart-throwing is now a thing of the past (still can't believe anyone calling themselves a professional doctor would EVER act like that!)
Again, thank you all for sharing your experiences and insights with me!
Dec 4, '12 by PedRN86I wonder if they are saying these things to instill fear in you, that if you don't do something correctly, or in a timely manner, you're going to have an angry doctor come after you yelling. I've never had someone yell at me at work. If they were yelling I would probably do the same as you and tell them I don't find their tone acceptable or respectful.
Dec 14, '12 by Nursingluv101Well I have had a doctor and team of interns very irritated with me because I was falling behind on their numerous orders for the fresh admission with zero help from other staff! I think if a patient is on a medsurg floor then they need to order as accordingly. They want ICU care on a MedSurg/tele budget .....it's ridiculous, and then they have nerve to get frustrated or "yell" (speak with attitude) towards you because you aren't moving quick enough!!! I think all MD's should be required to work the floor... really see it for what it is really like! Yeah, I only have one crazy lady, two Blood transfusions, and one critical pt who is in Extreme SVT .....yeah sorry I'm not giving your pt...1:1 care...kiss my ass! The problem
Is MD's wouldn't know because they don't do it...making up and writing orders are easy and half the time were the ones who call them when they write the damn order wrong!!! Please if your going to be ass know your damn Digoxin! Really
Dec 20, '12 by chicagonurse89I don’t think it’s every acceptable for a professional doctor to yell at another, particularly nurses. It’s nice to read posts in here that such behaviour is being dealt with! So far I haven’t experience doctors yelling at me, maybe a clinical instructor back in nursing school =)
Dec 20, '12 by sharpeimom, MSN GuideIf a doctor who usually isn't a yeller loses his cool with me, I'll usually just ignore it and deal with whatever he needs, however if it's someone who blows up regularly, I won't. I look him right in the eye and say, "When you've calmed down enough that you can be polite enough to treat me like a human being, then we'll talk about your patient orders." I walk away. I'm not rude, just firm. I've actually had MDs apologize to me!
One repeat offender was so obnoxious and a repeat offender, and I finally reported him through channels.
After that, he was never sweetness and light, but at least he quit swearing at me.
Oct 14, '15 by willeganIt's definitely not ok for a doctor to yell at a nurse. Obviously we all lose our cool at some stage, but collaboration is key in healthcare. This article might help? https://www.ausmed.com/articles/coll...in-healthcare/
Oct 17, '15 by beckster_01, BSN, RNQuote from PRICHARILLAisMISSEDI think the difference is that as a nurse, you want to help your patient and you want to be invested in their recovery. When they yell, throw feces, or demean you it is easy to take it personally. As a bouncer I don't see you really caring whether the person gets to the bar for a drink, you are just doing your job.I have a question.
I see a lot of post in many topics on AN about Nurses being mistreated. Is it really so bad that it can't be brushed off (I mean mistreatment by pt's and families btw. I wouldn't put up with a coworker looking down their nose at me either)? When I was a Marine, I took a side job as a bouncer, and I had a temper back then too lol. But I immediately realized that any yelling or threatening towards me was them threatening a "Bouncer," not me personally, you know? Keep in mind I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong, just curious-Is the yelling from Pt's and their families really that bad?
Oct 17, '15 by shantel1621It is NOT acceptable! I have been yelled at once and I guarantee that he won't make that mistake again...whenever we run into each other he can't even look me in the face😎You of to learn the art of "respectful embarrassment"
Oct 21, '15 by toomuchbaloneyQuote from Anaya_1deI haven't read all of the responses yet.I'm currently in Nursing School to get my RN license and I noticed something that is bothering me. Maybe I'm still naive, I just find it baffling to hear how it's almost seen as a given that doctors at times will be disrespectful to nurses. My professors, who are all experienced RN's, frequently comment on the fact that as a nurse you can expect to be yelled at by the doctors. In almost every lecture they will say something along the lines of "if you, as the nurse, don't do exactly what the doctor wants he will probably yell at you." What bothers me most about these comments is that nobody seems to find them shocking or is even a bit upset about it. In what other profession do you hear people talk about being yelled at in such a matter of fact way?
My other question is: why do nurses accept this kind of behavior? I've never been yelled at by a doctor but my natural reaction to somebody yelling at me would be:" I'm not sure who you think you are talking to, but you don't speak to me like this." Even if you made a mistake you could say: "I know I made a mistake but that doesn't give you the right to speak to me in this tone. We are all just human."
Maybe I'm missing something here and I hope some of you will enlighten me. What is the worst that could happen if you said something like that to a yelling doctor? He would probably think twice about yelling at you again. Please help me to understand, what are nurses afraid of?
I'd love to hear some thoughts on this from you guys. Thank you!
I believe that your nursing instructors are out of touch with the modern world of nursing, or you live in a backword portion of the country.
By and large it is no longer acceptable for physicians to act in such a fashion in any health care delivery setting. By and large, employers will suffer very little of that sort of behavior as it is often a symptom of a person who represents liability and risk in other areas of their judgment and conduct.
I wonder what other ways those instructors are misrepresenting nursing to you?
Oct 21, '15 by littlepeopleRNICU, BSN, RNIt's not okay! One of the things that bothers me about nurses is that they will accept treatment like that. Not at my facility...it is both, accepted and encouraged, to write physicians up when that happens. And it makes a difference once it's been done, let me tell you.