Why do we eat our young? - page 4

I'm a float pool nurse at my hospital so I bounce around, a lot. Wherever they need me, I go. So I'm pretty well known around the hospital, favorably, thank goodness. The past few months, I was pretty regular on one unit and had... Read More

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    Women ( Nurses) are so emotional and are the first to point that fact out, but are afraid to show compassion to each other. I tip my hat to anyone that have the nerve and willingness to become a nurse. It shows to me that all nurses are winners and how can we move this profession forward if we can't show each other respect.
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    Hey OP. What a great post. I give a big thanks to you for helping the new nurse. I have had great preceptors like you who supported their young and not so great ones. But I used this both as a learning experience even if I felt like quitting at times. The mistakes I made has taught me to never make the same mistakes again and grow from it. Then there are the great nurses who showed compassion who I will never forget in this lifetime----those are the great nurses that I wanted to be. I treat the 'old' and 'new' nurses with the same respect doesn't matter how tired and cranky I am. Everybody will have questions whether your 'old' or 'new', this is why I like nursing you learn something new everyday! =)
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    [COLOR=#000000] All I was trying to do here by making my post, was to vent a little, because I felt bad for her. I know remember how it felt in my first year of being a nurse and I remember feeling the way she did that afternoon a few times and its a horrible feeling. It was never my intention to offend any seasoned nurses. I was just venting. That's all…You are a phenominal nurse. If only all nurses were like you. I realize that in today's society there is a lot of pressure, and sometimes nurses get yelled at from family members and doctors, but in the long run, a good caring nurse is a precious jewel. God bless all nurses who are the caring and compassionate kind. There is a lot to deal with today.[/COLOR]
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    and that's effective learning to u, for new grad?????
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    I have only been on my unit for rwo years and I have already precepted ( we do not volunteer for this) at least 15 new grads . this was a quick count . all i want to do sometimes is go in assess pts, give meds, chart and be done with it. on my schedule without 5655 interuptions, advice ignored, no initiative, lack of thinking on and on and on. I was mostly oriented in a boot camp style and only a few of my cohorts are still there. only the strong survived. not saying it was ideal but i see new grads now cry if they have to deal with an admission or 2 and it makes me wonder.


    and that's effective teaching/learning to you, for a new grad??????
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    Thank you for being a caring and compassionate nurse who wants to help a new grad believe in herself and know that she is going to be a great nurse!
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    A couple years ago we had a new grad that asked a lot of questions. But was super sweet. Just so darn timid about everything. I worked with her a couple times, happy to answer questions. We worked different shifts at the time, but I would pick up her shift occasionally, and would do my best to help her out. Then one time I was working with her, and was SLAMMED with my own patients, and she asked a question, and I just wanted to scream, "OH MY GOODNESS! JUST MAKE A FREAKING DECISION!!"

    We're too slammed with our own patients to always be sweet and nurturing to the new people. And honestly, there does come a time where you need to stop asking "permission" before every single thing you do. You've got to eventually figure it out for yourself. You really can ask TOO MANY QUESTIONS.

    Anyway, I held it in, but probably sounded a bit curt in my answer. And she didn't take my curtness as an insult and immediately run around complaining about being bullied/eaten. And gained a new understanding of those that worked with her REGULARLY and were probably over it much quicker than it took me.
    And she still works with us. Is a fabulous nurse in fact.

    It's hard to be a new nurse. Even if everyone is sooooo nice and wonderful to you. It's not all about being nice to the new people and remembering what it was like when we were new. The new grad needs to realize, lives are in your hands, it's NOT all about you, everyone else is busy too.
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    I was a social worker in the trenches for many years. Social work, like nursing, is a high-stress female-dominated profession. My coworkers were my saving grace in that job. Even though the work was fast-paced and stressful, my coworkers provided each other with mutual support, almost without exception. The only unpleasant encounter I had was with a male psychologist a little too big for his britches. When I first heard about and then experienced nurse bullying it was in my first job as an aide in long term care. It was painful and shocking to experience it first-hand.

    I believe lateral violence between nurses stems from powerlessness. When people feel valued and capable of changing things for the better, they are less likely to strike out at others. Also I believe that a culture that accepts this behavior is difficult to undo, once it is firmly established. It requires courage to speak out against the behavior in a helpful way, not making yourself a target needlessly, not placing blame, but somehow helping to change the culture that accepts the inevitability of lateral violence. Maybe it would mean going to the nurse manager and reporting what you are observing or experiencing without naming names, for starters. Just raising the awareness.

    There was a time when sexual harrassment was tolerated in the workplace, and racial discrimination, too. Somehow we managed to overcome these evils because enough people refused to tolerate them.

    My humble opinion.
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    "And honestly, there does come a time where you need to stop asking "permission" before every single thing you do." posted by Wooh.

    Yes, I agree Wooh, and the orienting nurse needs to tell the new nurse that she no longer needs permission to do what the orientor knows the new nurse knows what to do. That is the whole purpose of orientation, IMHO - to gradually release the control on the new nurse. How many experienced nurses would do well with another nurse watching them all the time and telling them what they did wrong as soon as they did it? Come on, how many of us have gotten busy with a patient and missed turning a patient by 20 mins? But there is no other nurse fussing at them. Nope, we have all been there. But a new nurse might get bawled out or thought of as slacking if she does that.

    Hospitals need to take responsibility for training vet orientors how to train newbies well. Private businesses train invest in training. Why not hospitals? Why should vets fuss at each other about how new nurses (whether new grads or new to the unit) are treated. The vet nurses need training. And that is the hospital's responsibility, IMHO.
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    The road to become a trained nurse is hard indeed. Backstabbing, poor training, no jobs, harsh corporate environments, mean nurses, angry patients, fears of making errors are a few of the pitfalls, still we keep going forward and I think that's big part of becoming...


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