Nurses eat their young - now I understand why. - page 11

by RN_Marie

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I started working for a sub-acute LTC as the DSD last week. The DON and I hit it off because we have the same vision on what we need to do in order to solve the problems we current have. Early this week, we posted an ad for... Read More


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    Quote from RN_Marie
    - Someone coming into the interview with a wrinkled nose and irked expression and said that she can smell the BM from the floor
    Sounds like more of an indictment of the facility than of the newbie nurse.
    - Someone who wrote "expert in IV medication preparation"; when asked what's their experience on it, she stated she's been a vet nurse and she's been doing those a lot.
    Mixing IV meds for an animal's no different than it is for a human... I'd think she may be right in her self-assessment.
    - Someone who said they are not available for the first two weeks of April as they are going on a cruise
    Nothing unreasonable about that... In fact, it demonstrates responsibility.
    - When asked about core measures, all of them couldn't deliver one intelligent answer.
    I'd have had no clue about what you were talking about... I'd have spun an intelligent line of crap.
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    In regards to the vet tech, who has a lot of relevant experience that she seems eager to translate into "human" experience, if anyone thinks that handling demanding patients and families is difficult in nursing, it has to be a hundred times worse dealing with animals and their demanding families.

    To me, that sounds like someone who has a lot to bring to the table. Not for a charge position -- I somehow overlooked in the op that it was a brand new nurse interviewing brand new nurses for a supervisory role -- but definitely someone who has the necessary skills to transition into human care.
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    These candidates are the pits. But in their defense, an interview is your best and last chance to sell yourself to the employer, to show why you are better than the other candidates. And it is a fine line between sounding confident in your skills (which is what you want) and arrogant (which you don't want). These candidates just lack the ability to distinguish between the former and the latter. As for core measures, it seems unfair to ask a new grad to elaborate on it. I don't think this is a concept covered in the ADN or BSN curriculum.
    Last edit by RCBR on Mar 27, '12
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    Whoever decided that state boards could be reduced from two days of testing to one hour if you get enough questions right and who decided that nursing instructors have to be phd's and master degreed, 30-40 years of experience counts for nothing. That's what you get. Still, don't blame new grads. As it is stupid to interview new grads for charge positions. Change the criteria and keep interviewing.
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    Quote from rnpatrick
    Whoever decided that state boards could be reduced from two days of testing to one hour if you get enough questions right and who decided that nursing instructors have to be phd's and master degreed, 30-40 years of experience counts for nothing. That's what you get. Still, don't blame new grads. As it is stupid to interview new grads for charge positions. Change the criteria and keep interviewing.
    Statements like, "you get what you pay for" become cliches for a reason.

    It's obviously absurd to hire a new grad into a charge position. The only reason that they're doing so is because the market permits them to and they can get them cheap, Cheap, CHEAP.

    And I'll resist the urge to begin another one of my "the NCLEX is a joke" rants.
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    There is NEVER a reason for nurses to eat their young, how UNPROFESSIONAL can you get!!!...this attitude is unbecoming in a profession where we all have worked so hard to get to this point, no one should be expected to put up this this type of behavior, grow up ladys!!!..we should be willing to help groom our sisters in nursing, NOT eat them...just my two-cent :-)
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    I didn't learn Joint Commission standards until I went back to school for my BSN. Regarding the person who said they were going on a cruise in April: this happens sometimes that people have plans coming up with their family that were made way in advance, and most of the time I've seen employers make accommodations but not in all cases. She was being upfront about it. As far as whether she should have waited when she got the offer versus on the first interview, I would suggest keeping in mind that this is probably their first interview in nursing, and perhaps professionally ever. There is a certain interview etiquette - and I'm not talking about manners and dress, but about when certain things are discussed - which often none of us are trained on and we learn the hard way.

    When you asked about core measures, did anyone say upfront that they didn't know what they were? If these are the only candidates you have to choose from, I would choose the person who made the honest response instead of pretending to know what they were talking about.
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    Wow I had no idea what vet techs did before this post. You all really have my respect.
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    Maybe you are really hungry.
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    Judging these women during an interview when they were probably very nervous and likely to make a few anxiety related mistakes isn't exactly what I would consider understanding or open-minded. Likewise, overgeneralizing and assuming that these candidates would deserve lateral violence from their more experienced nurse colleagues seems extremely un-nurse-like behavior. I hope that the attitude of your DON is more open and understanding, for the sake of your unit.
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