I'm seeing a lot of unprofessional posting here related to venting about patients - pg.6 | allnurses

I'm seeing a lot of unprofessional posting here related to venting about patients - page 6

Hi, I'm just a newbie here but I have to comment on what I'm seeing here. Specifically nurses sharing their stories of their interactions with difficult patients. Surely it is unprofessional to... Read More

  1. Visit  metal_m0nk profile page
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    Truth is, some of those who are protecting their right to post questionably personal information about patients are no doubt folks who have never had *their* personal health information shared, debated and judged in a public forum - primarily because they feel protected by the very policies they come so close to violating here.

    Just as those who say, "Once you gain some experience in the field, you'll understand," someone who *has* had their personal health information shared, debated and judged in a public forum - like say, somewhere in their local community - would likely agree that once you have some experience with having your privacy violated in that way, you would understand how damaging it actually is and might think twice before doing it to someone else.
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  2. Visit  joanna73 profile page
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    Where are these unprofessional posts? Truth is, some people are making blanket statements and generalizations about posters violating patient information, just to be divisive. I've read some of the OP's other posts and I sense that is the goal. All of us can make claims about various issues, but that doesn't mean it's accurate. Perceptions vary with all of the members.
    KelRN215, OCNRN63, beckyboo1, and 2 others like this.
  3. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Quote from metal_m0nk
    Truth is, some of those who are protecting their right to post questionably personal information about patients are no doubt folks who have never had *their* personal health information shared, debated and judged in a public forum - primarily because they feel protected by the very policies they come so close to violating here.

    Just as those who say, "Once you gain some experience in the field, you'll understand," someone who *has* had their personal health information shared, debated and judged in a public forum - like say, somewhere in their local community - would likely agree that once you have some experience with having your privacy violated in that way, you would understand how damaging it actually is and might think twice before doing it to someone else.
    I don't know what you and jnjo are referring to with "detailed information" about any individual, and never by name. Not sure why you're implying that nurses have never had their personal information posted in a public place. If you can provide a rough description of these, we can take the appropriate action. If you don't remember the specifics you can send them a Private Message if you like.

    While staff keeps a good eye on this forum, the number of posts ensures that not every one of them will be seen. I'm sure you wouldn't want someone's detailed information to remain on the board.
    beckyboo1, anotherone, and joanna73 like this.
  4. Visit  Jennybrie profile page
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    Quote from joanna73
    While students are encouraged to use AN, I feel that if they are going to start accusatory threads such as this, maybe the student should just stay over in the student section of AN and save their energy. Kind of gets a little irritating.
    I usually do (stay on my side of the section) and agree with what all of you are saying about this topic and the attitudes that some of us students have. I'd wish some of my fellow students would keep their opinions to themselves and sit back and learn from those of you that have walked a few miles in the professional world. I come over to the "real" side of this nursing forum to catch a glimpse of what it would be like to be one of you. I would never think of telling any of you my opinion on anything about nursing because I have no ground to stand on.

    Please don't think all students are like the OP. I'm here to learn from you and am very happy that you show the real side of nursing that our instructors and text books don't talk about. My few hours at clinical doesn't scratch the surface of what it really means to be a nurse.

    I commend you all for your dedication and honesty. I hope after a few years I can come on to this site and vent along with you
    jax67, Raewynv, Altra, and 3 others like this.
  5. Visit  nurseymama profile page
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    I LOVE this board. It lets me know that I am not the only one that faces the problems that I face. It also lets me see that if it was something I had to solve that night that I approached it the same way that others did. My post name is what it is because there are millions of nurses that are mothers out there and if I ever should post to vent or for advice on a situation that may be resident/patient specific I would change my avatar and no one would know. As other posters have stated if I were to come home and tell my husband what happened he would give me a black and white solution, he is a machinist he doesn't deal with the large amount of grey area that we do. So please before you call this unprofessional realize the benefits reaped of having a board like this to consult when you come across an issue in your practice. Someday you will appreciate knowing how others chose to handle a situation.
    OCNRN63, VivaLasViejas, nursel56, and 2 others like this.
  6. Visit  nurseymama profile page
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    I used to think that too at one time
  7. Visit  PacoUSA profile page
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    You're a self-proclaimed NEWBIE, you don't know enough to make this call on nurses. I remember being just like you. Now that I have been in the profession for a while (not a long while, granted, but long enough) ... trust me, I don't judge any nurse for a need to vent anymore! And a smart nurse knows to change details enough to keep HIPAA intact, even details.
  8. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    I personally have never seen a post that could identify a patient definitively. Either the members are smart enough not to violate HIPAA, or the mods get 'em for breaking TOS. But you know what? Sometimes I wish patients or their family members WOULD see some of the vents on inappropriate behavior they had, and SEE what they do to us, how childish/ridiculous/borderline illegal the things they do and say are! Granted, some of them wouldn't care I'm sure. But maybe, just maybe it would help change something.

    Students, first, like others have said, you don't go to someone else's house and tell them how wrong everything they do and say is. It is beyond rude. You don't like it? Don't go.
    Second, believe me my pritties, you'll soon get it....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
    JDougRN, OCNRN63, joanna73, and 4 others like this.
  9. Visit  T-Bird78 profile page
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    You'll understand and have stories of your own one day soon. This is the internet, the WORLD wide web, so there's no telling where in the world these posts are coming from. I've seen people in England and the Philippines posting here, so it's not just the US. If I'm griping about my asthma pt that comes in regularly c/o SOB and ineffective medications and reeks of cigarette smoke, you have no idea where I'm at to even begin to narrow down which pt I could be griping about. And if patients DO visit this site, maybe they'll see some of the gripes and learn from us.
    KelRN215 likes this.
  10. Visit  psu_213 profile page
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    Quote from metal_m0nk
    Truth is, some of those who are protecting their right to post questionably personal information about patients are no doubt folks who have never had *their* personal health information shared, debated and judged in a public forum - primarily because they feel protected by the very policies they come so close to violating here.
    Please show me a post on here where a nurse has shared details about a patient where someone could identify said patient. Not a "wow, could be someone I know" post. A post where the patient is identified. Guess what? Doesn't exist on this site.

    Suppose I say "I was taking care of a patient today with appendicitis. He made the most ridiculous demands of the staff. Not to mention that his mother was totally overbearing. She etc, etc... Has any other nurses here been in a similar situation." That in NO way identifies the pt. Even if that pt was here and read my remarks, he would not know for sure that it was him. It could be one of thousands of patients in America. Plus, my guess is, moderators would immediately deal with a post that even has a remote chance of violating HIPAA.
    scrubsandasmile, KelRN215, joanna73, and 2 others like this.
  11. Visit  Beautiful Mind RN profile page
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    I would just like to point out, not all nursing students have blinds over there eyes and think in one, particular way about HIPPA or have that "I am better than thou" attitudes towards the experienced nurses. I surely hope that some of the nurses who posted earlier in this thread does not apply that stereotype to all nursing students, as I would not like to be bundled up in that group.

    I am quite aware of my 'place', despite my hospital experience. I know I have YET to enter into the culture of nursing and despite the education I am receiving, that is just a foundation of what is to come.

    Perhaps it is because I worked so closely with nurses (experienced and new alike), that I take my approach as a student nurse as a humble one and instead of opening my mouth, I listen, INTENTLY, with BOTH ears to all of those who offer their experience, knowledge, etc...to me.

    And to the fellow nursing students (and new grads), I hope you would take my word as a piece of advice and follow my lead. So you will not end up creating that certain stereotype that I mentioned above and to prevent threads (and OPs) like these from occurring.
    (Or at least happening less frequently).

    Respect all around, that's my motto!
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  12. Visit  Boxer Mama profile page
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    Even though I am not even an "official" nursing student yet, I can absolutely see the need to vent, having worked in different parts of the healthcare field. The OP would be very shocked that on a medical transcription forum, an MT posted a direct quote from a patient's chart and then proceeded to make fun of her (her company name was listed under her avatar as well) because of a mental health issue. As per the forum directors, no violations were made in that situation as well. I have never once on this forum read anything that made fun of patients or even had any information that could be related to a specific person. I personally value these stories because I know situations like these are ahead of me, and it is nice to see the support you can receive here.

    I can also see the attitudes that the experienced nurses are referring to, as I can see this from group projects with "younger" students. The older I get the less I know, and I also have heard be careful to point a finger at someone as there are three pointing back at you. Thank you for all the advice here, and I very much enjoy reading all the threads.
    Last edit by Boxer Mama on Jan 18, '13 : Reason: grammar
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  13. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    My comment was not against students. I think 99% of students are wonderful. It was against anybody telling nurses they shouldn't vent on a nursing forum which is really the only safe place for nurses to do it and with people that understand.
    OCNRN63, nursel56, and psu_213 like this.


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