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Had my first doctor scream at me today - page 4

I am a new grad. This is my last week on orientation.. Well today was horrible! Nothing went right! I was crazy busy.. I couldn't find any of my charts because they tend to "float around." Meaning... Read More

  1. Visit  SueBee RN-BSN profile page
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    BurnerMom
    So...I went in the med room, gathered my senses about me and brushed it off.

    Why do nurses do this? Why did you not write him up? Why did you not tell him not to speak to you this way? You just brushed it off? Why? As a nurse I don't understand why other nurses allow themselves to be treated like dirt, then turn right around and treat other nurses like dirt. I don't get it, and I never will. It's time to get some back bone-
  2. Visit  DanEMT profile page
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    I'm with Hitman tell him once, warn him once, and then bike racks at 3:00. Bullies fall apart when steped to. I run into this problem with raw ED nurses every once in a while. No bike racks for women though haha
  3. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    File an incident report. It was inappropriate for him to yell at you. Period. End of discussion. You do not have to take it!
  4. Visit  clee1 profile page
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    Quote from Moondance
    Clee's response would be appropriate, right?
    Appropriate? Heck, I don't know.

    But I tell you this for a certain fact: I am NOBODY'S "whipping boy". My parents don't talk to me that way; nor do my siblings; nor does my wife or children. I'll be damned if I'll put up with it from some prima donna stuffed-shirt.

    I'm normally very polite and good-natured, but I'll stand up for myself against any other person: doctor, patient, coworker, or supervisor that attempts to step on me. I'll just not tolerate it!

    If my facility won't back me up, well..... they need my liscense far more than I need their job. I am a nurse - I can find work anywhere.

    The sooner the rest of the nursing profession adopts this type of attitude, the sooner it will be unacceptable for us to have to suffer this type of abuse; and that is EXACTLY what it is - abuse.
    LateBloomingRN2B likes this.
  5. Visit  PANurseRN1 profile page
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    Quote from LeahJet
    I once had a doc pitch a little fit about not having a certain supply in the ER. Consulting docs are always coming into our ER and just "grabbing" any ER nurse that happens to be running around tending to her/his own business. They tend to think that we should stop all of our silly ER stuff and fetch stuff for them....
    ANYway.....
    He threw himself a little tantrum.
    Ok, I admit, I am a smartass. It works for me.

    I said... "Aww, you're really upset aren't you? Bless your heart. Why don't you just hold tight for a second and I'll page the supervisor to go to surgery to get what you need. OK?" (I was speaking in a tone that you would a 5 year old)

    He sputtered and stammered a minute then he sat down and waited.

    Turn the tables on them.

    Condescension can go both ways.

    I admit, not the most professional way to deal with it but I am sure they have had nurses try to deal with them professionally and it obviously didn't work.
    This way, I walk off with a big ole grin on my face.:spin:
    Oh, I hope to God you said this with a really syrupy Southern accent to boot. That was priceless!
  6. Visit  PANurseRN1 profile page
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    Quote from SueBee RN-BSN
    BurnerMom
    So...I went in the med room, gathered my senses about me and brushed it off.

    Why do nurses do this? Why did you not write him up? Why did you not tell him not to speak to you this way? You just brushed it off? Why? As a nurse I don't understand why other nurses allow themselves to be treated like dirt, then turn right around and treat other nurses like dirt. I don't get it, and I never will. It's time to get some back bone-
    I did recently write an abuser up. I can overlook a good deal, but that particular episode was more than I could overlook.

    I meant to add that another one of my tricks when dealing with "Old Yeller" is to speak with a softer and softer tone, until the person yelling finds he/she has to stop yelling to hear what I'm saying. On the phonem I have resorted to the old "I'm hanging up now. Feel free to call me back when you can discuss this calmly."
  7. Visit  LeahJet profile page
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    Quote from Tweety
    Leah, you're lucky that approach didn't backfire. I wouldn't recommend it.
    I'm "lucky"?
    I don't know, I guess I am just not easily intimidated.
    What could he have done? Whoop up on me? LOL.
    Complained about me?
    "That nurse treated me like a five year old!!"

    You're right, I wouldn't recommend that approach for just anyone.
    But I'm totally comfortable with it.
  8. Visit  TigerGalLE profile page
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    I don't know if it makes me feel better or worse with all of these responses.. I'm glad y'all back me up.. But why does this always happen? Why do doctors think they can treat nurses this way? I mean... Patients are put into the hospital to be treated by NURSES.... Anyways I think the main reason I didn't speak my mind was because of the shock i was experiencing.... And before I opened my big mouth.. a senior nurse stepped in. She told me later that I looked like I was about to crack and that she thought it would be better if she said something than if i was to say something (she has been on the same floor for 25 years). It is nice to have this kind of support.

    Anyways... Maybe I should have written him up... Its over and done with now... but I do know that what he did was WRONG!! And I probably will be sticking up for myself more in the future... Gracefully of course... I love to make people feel guilty.. I'm quite good at it actually.. and I think this talent may come in handy in situations like this!
  9. Visit  sanctuary profile page
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    Quote from SueBee RN-BSN
    BurnerMom
    So...I went in the med room, gathered my senses about me and brushed it off.

    Why do nurses do this? Why did you not write him up? Why did you not tell him not to speak to you this way? You just brushed it off? Why? As a nurse I don't understand why other nurses allow themselves to be treated like dirt, then turn right around and treat other nurses like dirt. I don't get it, and I never will. It's time to get some back bone-

    :yeahthat: :yeahthat: :yeahthat: :yeahthat: Until we refuse to be treated poorly, by anyone, we will have to put up with this stuff.
  10. Visit  sanctuary profile page
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    Quote from LeahJet
    I'm "lucky"?
    I don't know, I guess I am just not easily intimidated.
    What could he have done? Whoop up on me? LOL.
    Complained about me?
    "That nurse treated me like a five year old!!"

    You're right, I wouldn't recommend that approach for just anyone.
    But I'm totally comfortable with it.

    You are right, it is the comfort level you have to carry something out that makes it work. Most of us go into "deer in the headlights" reaction, and can't respond. That is why talking about it, working it out later (the standard 'wish I had said...') helps to be ready the next time.
    Worked with one nurse who gave a gift-wrapped baby pacifier to a neuro-surg. He had the grace to wear it pinned to his lapel for the day. Said it was something his mom would have done if he got too full of himself.
  11. Visit  crb613 profile page
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    Quote from clee1
    Appropriate? Heck, I don't know.

    But I tell you this for a certain fact: I am NOBODY'S "whipping boy". My parents don't talk to me that way; nor do my siblings; nor does my wife or children. I'll be damned if I'll put up with it from some prima donna stuffed-shirt.

    I'm normally very polite and good-natured, but I'll stand up for myself against any other person: doctor, patient, coworker, or supervisor that attempts to step on me. I'll just not tolerate it!

    If my facility won't back me up, well..... they need my liscense far more than I need their job. I am a nurse - I can find work anywhere.

    The sooner the rest of the nursing profession adopts this type of attitude, the sooner it will be unacceptable for us to have to suffer this type of abuse; and that is EXACTLY what it is - abuse.
    My kind of nurse!
  12. Visit  creature profile page
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    Sorry about that. There are alot of arrogant doctors out there who think they can talk to nurses any way they want. I wouldn't talk to my dog the way some have talked to me. I had a doctor throw a chart at me. What makes them think they can get away with this? Because we let them. We have to start sticking up for ourselves and not taking their crap. I used to do ER with a doctor like this. He would mumble purposely so I would look stupid having to ask him what? What? After a while of this, I started to ignore him. Boy did he get mad, but he started talking clearer. I thought every time you swear at me I can sure understand it.
    Don't let them get to you.
    Creature
  13. Visit  RNOTODAY profile page
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    I really really wish that there wasnt this "thing" about nurses being upset at being yelled at by the "doctor" , like they are some supreme being, or something. 'oh, the DOCTOR yelled at me, ..." Who cares? They dont employ you, YOU do things for THEM, not vice versa. It just seems to me that when new grads and even experienced nurses get all nervous about paging the DOCTOR or being upset that the DOCTOR yelled at them is just a sign of a personal, or even worse , professional inferiority complex. I am in no way singling anybody out when I say this here. It just makes me cringe when I hear this... toughen up. You're a professional. They are just people, no better than you are. I myself had never had a problem confronting, paging , or being "yelled" at by an md, as a student, as a new grad, or as a semi- experienced nurse. I find that odd, because in many areas, I am not so much of a confident person, and I actually *do* have an inferiority complex in RE: to many areas of my life. But, the whole doc-nurse thing never had me nervous or upset. (My friends tease me to this day, and say that this attitude I have is because I actually dated a doctor before I went to nursing school, so therefore I see them as regular people, as they truely are!!!)They may be right, but still, they are NO BETTER than us!!!!! Be strong!!!
    Last edit by RNOTODAY on Apr 6, '07 : Reason: typos


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