Do doctors have any idea what we nurses do? lol - page 2

As a pregnant nurse, the 12 hour shift is taking its toll on my body. My doctor looked at me with a straight face and said "can't you just put your feet up for 30 minutes every 3 hours or so?" Um,... Read More

  1. Visit  hodgieRN profile page
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    I don't expect docs to know exactly what I do. I have no idea what they do. I may hear bugging or complaining, but I'm not seeing 70 different pts in the hospital, or have nurses page me every 5 minutes to ask some stupid question, or spend my time working 80 hrs a week. I think it has more to do with appreciation and I think most of them do appreciate nurses. If they know you are competent and dependable, there's actually a really good working relationship.

    I've seen nurses hate this doctor and this doctor, but as soon that nurse's mother is in the hospital and they get to see the doctor actually take care of a loved one, that opinion changes real quick. Or, you have been to the hospital and to get see the other side of what doctors do. Granted, there are docs who are just mean with no bed side manner, but there are just as many mean, nasty, incompetent nurses that talk behind people's back and spread rumors. The hospital is a high stress environment and some people aren't good at coping with that. But, I think most doctors appreciate nurses and know we are part of the team. That's good enough for me. I don't need a doc to know how long it takes to set up a ICP monitor or how long I have to sit in MRI for. I'd rather just crack a joke if there's tension in the air.
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  3. Visit  blackvans1234 profile page
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    Im a nursing student and told this one doctor I was seeing that I'll be done in a year, and later she goes ''do you know how to take a blood pressure?"

  4. Visit  GrnTea profile page
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    I was in a hospital when a nurses' strike came on at 0700 in the first week in July. A friend coming off night shift said she passed a room and saw two house staff, gowned and gloved, next to a bed. "I'll hold him over and you wash him," said one. "No, I'LL hold him over and YOU wash him," said the other. She laughed all the way out the door.
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  5. Visit  DoeRN profile page
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    I thought we sat around and read magazines all day. Isn't this what we do?

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  6. Visit  marycarney profile page
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    Many, many years ago - and far away from where I am now, the head of pediatrics decided that BEFORE the new residents touched a NICU patient - they would go through an orientation day WITH A NURSE. Then they started their rotation. It. Was. Wonderful.

    I thought it was a great idea then, and think it's a great idea now.

    At another hospital, one of the GI docs (attending) came out of a patient room with a bundle of dirty linen. He found the patient in a soiled bed when he made rounds and took it upon himself to clean the gentleman up AND change the soiled linens. That guy is my hero.
  7. Visit  NurseDirtyBird profile page
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    Sooooo glad I had a CNM when I was pregnant. I told her I was think of taking a LOA while I was pregnant (I'd ended up in the ED with dehydration on a couple occasions after some very long crazy shifts), and she said, "Yes, dear god, if you can handle it financially, you stay home. If you can't, go on call."
    Unfortunately those with higher risk pregnancies don't have the luxury of having a fellow nurse provide their care. I like the idea of requiring residents to orient with the nursing staff before starting their rotation, as mentioned above. I think it would make the working world a little better for all of us.
  8. Visit  BSNbeDONE profile page
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    I don't THINK they know and I don't BELIEVE they care.
  9. Visit  BostonFNP profile page
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    I don't think most physicians understand the nursing workflow, just like most nurses don't understand the physician workflow.

    I do think most physicians appreciate the patient-asssessment and triage capabilities of nurses.
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  10. Visit  ♪♫ in my ♥ profile page
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    I'll speak up for our ED docs.

    They've got a pretty good sense of what our lives are like and are generally and genuinely respectful and helpful.
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  11. Visit  PRICHARILLAisMISSED profile page
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    Quote from AWanderingMinstral
    I think many doctors DO know what we do...and that's why they're doctors. One of my biggest pet peeves is when a doctor asks me why another doctor ordered a particular medication. Um, aren't you a doctor? I'm never sure if it's because he actually thinks I know exactly why a particular medication was ordered or if he (and yes, it's always a male doctor) simply wants to tell me why it was ordered in an attempt to appear superior. I JUST experienced this last night when asked why a patient was ordered (by the orthopedic surgeon) IV vitamin K. I stated that the patient's INR was 2.2 and, on our orthopedics unit, that is why it was ordered. Instead of accepting my response, he rambled on and on and I ultimately told him to "ask [his] MD friend." Ugh.
    To the first bolded, maybe him asking these kinds of questions is his way of making you feel included...

    I see so many posts from nurses who complain that the physicians don't take them seriously or couldn't care less about what they say. Maybe your hospital phyicians do care. Just a thought.

    For the second bolded, I'm curious what he rambled on and on about...was he explaining his concern over the order? If so he may have felt it was a learning experience for you, and thought you were worth the time to educate.

    Of course he could just be bitter, I have no idea. But then again, maybe he isn't.
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    maybe him asking these kinds of questions is his way of making you feel included...
    I sometimes get docs from the floors asking why our docs did what they did and I generally take it as recognition that our docs often include us in their thinking about *why* they're ordering as they do and not just *what* they're ordering. Sometimes I can answer and sometimes I have to point them in the direction of the ordering provider.

    Either way, it's nice to be included as part of the team and it's helpful to be able to educate the patients and families.
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  13. Visit  KelRN215 profile page
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    Quote from BostonFNP
    I don't think most physicians understand the nursing workflow, just like most nurses don't understand the physician workflow.

    I do think most physicians appreciate the patient-asssessment and triage capabilities of nurses.
    I do agree with that statement. I feel that is especially true in my current role as a home health nurse... My relationship with MDs feels much different now than it did when I worked in the hospital. I am the eyes and ears in the community.

    For example- one of my patients is on service because there is concern of family non-compliance with his care plan. His caregivers appear to have some cognitive limitations and require very concrete instructions. The patient is fed exclusively through a G-tube. He used to be on overnight feeds of 500 mL and due to slow weight gain, the volume was increased to 600 mL. Despite the increase in feeds, he still was not gaining weight. One morning, I got to his house before his morning bolus feed was started and was able to review the settings on the pump... the family had stopped the overnight feed and believed that it was "done" because the bag had run dry but when I checked the volume, I found that the patient had only received something like 490 mL. The formula cans are 240 mL each and the family did not realize that to give 600 mL, they had to put more than 2 cans in the bag. I am in frequent contact with this patient's physician and when I discussed this with her, she said "I never would have thought to ask that!"
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  14. Visit  AWanderingMinstral profile page
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED

    To the first bolded, maybe him asking these kinds of questions is his way of making you feel included...

    I see so many posts from nurses who complain that the physicians don't take them seriously or couldn't care less about what they say. Maybe your hospital phyicians do care. Just a thought.

    For the second bolded, I'm curious what he rambled on and on about...was he explaining his concern over the order? If so he may have felt it was a learning experience for you, and thought you were worth the time to educate.

    Of course he could just be bitter, I have no idea. But then again, maybe he isn't.
    Anything is possible. The reality is that I'm neither interested in nor do I care about the adverse effects of intravenous vitamin K (not enough to memorize them when I can look them up). I provided the doctor with the probable reason why the patient was receiving it. If it was a matter of administering something else or nothing at all, well, that's between him and the $1 million-earning orthopedic surgeon. I earned a diploma RN, a BSN, and a master's degree in infectious diseases and microbiology. I'm quite capable of attending medical school, but I enjoy having a life.


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