Discrimination & Whistle blowing - Would you hire this nurse again? - page 4

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I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over Google if you search it. A few... Read More


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    How did the second hospital discriminate you? I'd assume if they had heard of your prior case and worried you were a litigious nurse they just would not have hired you in the first place. If it was over working on the Sabbath seems like the issue would've come up before they had time to micromanage you and trump up reasons to fire you.

    edit: I see your issue goes something like this - you want to hang a discrimination charge on hospital #2 because you didn't inform them of your scheduling needs, and they are prohibited from asking about your religion during the hiring process.

    Then at some point your manager said "if I had known your religion I wouldn't have hired you" even though it's obvious that what she meant was "If I had known you couldn't work any Saturdays I wouldn't have hired you" - based on that you plan to sue them. I guess you could make a career out of doing that since it's based on blindsiding your employer. Not very ethical imo.
    Last edit by nursel56 on Nov 7, '12
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    If you are such a devout Jew or Christian (maybe your another religion, I don't mean to jump to conclusions) I'm rather surprised you would choose to be so litigious as these faiths teach against it.

    I think your being unfair to your employee's and co-workers. You need to look into a Monday to Friday job.
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    The best thing you can do is to apply for PRN positions, that way you choose your schedule. If you are applying to a new company and expect them to accomodate you just because you observe the sabbath, that puts them in an awkard position. When you apply and they tell you you must work every other weekend, you already know you are unable to commit to their job requirements so don't apply, in other words you are unable to perform the duties that are asked of you. The other option is apply for jobs that are closed on weekends and work M-F. Best wishes to you.
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    Quote from monkeybug
    Not to be nitpicky, but I don't think the OP ever said they were Jewish. Jews, Muslims, and some Christians celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.
    Muslims do not celebrate a traditional Sabbath day. Their "day of prayer" is on Friday.

    SDA and some Baptists (?) celebrate a Saturday Sabbath. However, if you are to take what the OP worded as literal, that she celebrates the Sabbath from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday, it's a fairly good assumption that she is Jewish.
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    Dirtyhippiegirl... Just FYI the SDA's observe sundown to sundown as well.
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    Quote from theantichick
    Dirtyhippiegirl... Just FYI the SDA's observe sundown to sundown as well.
    Weird! I just googled it and it appears that you're correct. I live in an area with a large SDA population and it was always my understanding from associating with SDA friends etc. that you could work on Friday (most spent Friday night preparing for Saturday sabbath) but definitely not on Saturday.

    Does make me wonder about the policies in regards to the SDA hospital just down the road from me. I was also under the assumption, which was brought up by someone else, that life saving occupations were exempt from the sabbath.

    Good to know 'tho!
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    Quote from dirtyhippiegirl
    Weird! I just googled it and it appears that you're correct. I live in an area with a large SDA population and it was always my understanding from associating with SDA friends etc. that you could work on Friday (most spent Friday night preparing for Saturday sabbath) but definitely not on Saturday.

    Does make me wonder about the policies in regards to the SDA hospital just down the road from me. I was also under the assumption, which was brought up by someone else, that life saving occupations were exempt from the sabbath.

    Good to know 'tho!
    I was raised SDA, and believe me I know the sundown-to-sundown rules in exquisite detail! They really suck to most SDA teens! (I no longer practice for other reasons.)

    There are large numbers of SDA's in healthcare, and their hospital network used to be very large. Loma Linda in California is an SDA facility, for example. The SDA teachings have always been that providing health care to those who need it is not a violation of the Sabbath keeping laws. At least the way it was when I was growing up, the managers would make an effort to rotate the Sabbath shifts so not everyone had to bear the brunt, or try and schedule non-SDA's if possible, but it was more a courtesy thing than anything. Some employees would make arrangements and work a Sunday for a non-SDA co-worker if that person would work their Saturday. But it was clearly understood if you were needed, you worked, and the church leaders I knew about never even questioned it.

    Now I did my Foundations clinicals at our local SDA facility, and I'm not sure if there was a single SDA working on the floor I was on. Different world than the one I grew up in.
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    Quote from theantichick
    Now I did my Foundations clinicals at our local SDA facility, and I'm not sure if there was a single SDA working on the floor I was on. Different world than the one I grew up in.
    My ICU clinical was in said SDA facility down the street from me. As a long time vegetarian, I thoroughly enjoyed their cafeteria selections, but...I don't know how I could have told a SDA nurse from a regular nurse. Even the daily employee prayer circles were geared towards a more general Christian mindset.

    I love learning about stuff like this.
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    Hmm... I am Jewish and according to what I know the "halaha" determined that saving lives is superior to observing Sabbath.
    I have religious MD friends who work on Sabbath no problem. Bottom line, I am sure you could find a Rabbi to approve you to work
    but you chose to go to extreme and sue the Hospital. I think your future employers who might know few things about Judaism will not see this favorably.
    Besides, who discriminates against Jewish anyways, the Hospitals are packed with Jewish docs
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    You definitely made a wrong choice by suing. Had you not done that, you probably would have stood a better chance. Taking care of people who are hospitalized, (They are there because their physician felt the need to put them there)comes into the subject of the ox in the ditch. I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, and you were a very ill or injured patient, wouldn't you want to be cared for?
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