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Discrimination & Whistle blowing - Would you hire this nurse again? - page 7

I was discriminated against when I applied for a job. In other words, a job offer at a hospital was rescinded due to their discrimination against me. I sued them and won. Now my name is all over... Read More

  1. Visit  Nurserton profile page
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    Quote from monkeybug
    Not to be nitpicky, but I don't think the OP ever said they were Jewish. Jews, Muslims, and some Christians celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.
    As a Muslim I can say that we do not observe the Sabbath. Our day of religious worship is Friday, and we are allowed to work. I appreciate your point though.
    Last edit by Nurserton on Nov 8, '12 : Reason: forgot the quote
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  2. Visit  mariebailey profile page
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    Quote from SunshineSmile
    It's what they call in legal jargon as "reasonable acommodation."
    No, it is not "reasonable accommodation". Reasonable accommodation is a part of the ADA that applies to people with disabilities and allows for changes in the work environment to meet their needs. It has nothing to do with religion.
    scottrho likes this.
  3. Visit  Ruby Vee profile page
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    Quote from Joveta
    Well i didn't read all the comments but i can tell you,the same thing happened to me,three or four times,but i didn't sue.I always tell them i need Sunday off to go to church,and 99% of the times they will say ''No Problems" you can have Sunday and Monday off,three months later,and my new schedule will have all the Sunday ''ON". So i usually quit after 3 months.I am surprised you even won ,they usually just lie to you and agree to all your requests than they change their minds.
    I'm shocked that you keep getting new jobs if you quit every job after three months.
    DizzyLizzyNurse, anotherone, merlee, and 2 others like this.
  4. Visit  Ruby Vee profile page
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    Quote from SunshineSmile
    I completely agree with "I love my cat." A lot of people have a "slave to my employer/government" mentality regardless of their background. "Oh, if I complain, I will loose my job." "If I complain, no one will hire me again." Complain=punishment. So they keep their mouths shut and just look for another job. How do you think revolutions happened? Massive number of people complained, and things got fixed. If a facility is doing something wrong, the employees should be encouraged to speak up and fix the problem. Unions are there for that also. The management should be supportive of it so that the facility could become the best that it can be. The fact that a nurse had the guts to risk it all says that he/she will stand up for what he/she believes. It also shows that if you hire him/her, he/she will stand up for the patients' rights and point out things if someone is harming a patient. You want someone like that for your facility if you want a great facility.
    I'm all for unions. The best nursing positions I've ever had were in union hospitals; the union bargaining team secured a contract for us that was fair to everyone. What you're asking for isn't fair - - to anyone except yourself. I wouldn't hire you. The fact that you have the "guts" to ask for what you want -- and then sue for "discrimination" when you don't get it -- does not mean that you will stand up for patients' rights or "point out things if someone is harming a patient." All it means is that you think of yourself first. That makes it unlikely that you'd go out of your way to stand up for a patient or to contribute to a great facility.

    I don't want someone like you in my facility or my unit. We need more people who believe in fairness to all of the staff and fewer who just want what they want whenever they want it.
  5. Visit  FDW630 profile page
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    I would not hire you.

    It seems a little antagonistic to apply for a job with a fairly clear-cut schedule, then demand that the employer accomodate your requirement to never work one of the most popularly requested days off (which requires every other nurse in your unit to be inconvenienced at some point in order to cover for you), and then sue them when they refuse. Not once...but twice. It's a novel idea to work every sunday for a Christian who would work every Saturday for you. But it's also unrealistic.

    In my opinion, you need to be looking at different positions with schedules better suited to your requirements. Sorry that it's hard to find, but you can't expect a profession like healthcare to bend and change to accomodate your demands. It isn't retail. It's needs driven. Not your needs, either. Look elsewhere.
    DizzyLizzyNurse, jvman, anotherone, and 3 others like this.
  6. Visit  JSlovex2 profile page
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    Quote from ColleenRN2B
    A $40,000 payout for never having worked a day in the facility? Yep, that's leave a bad taste in a potential HR managers mouth....
    All the new grads that can't find a job...

    40,000 paid to someone who never worked.

    There's your job. Gone.
    DizzyLizzyNurse, jvman, and anotherone like this.
  7. Visit  SENSUALBLISSINFL profile page
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    To all the nurse managers here that replied to the OP stating they will not hire her....would you hire me? I am a new graduate, eager to work. I know I have to put in my dues. I am willing to take any shift, work weekends, and because I have no children, I am also willing to work holidays.

    To the OP...I am not sure what to say. Part of me respect your religious beliefs, and I can understand your committment. However, most faiths make exceptions in professions such as ours.

    When you sue once, one can maybe understand somewhat, but twice? Mmmm....that makes you a persona non-grata in a hospital.

    The suggestion that you consider a clinic where you can work M-F, or per Diem is something you may want to consider. It will give you what you want.

    Good Luck and God Bless.
    Meriwhen likes this.
  8. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    I just wish people would stop throwing out the discrimination card. It de-legitimizes those instances when it is truly happening.

    "Oh, they didn't give me the job. It must be because I am white/black/hispanic/old/young/fat/thin/Jewish/Christian/gay/straight (You get the point)! It must have NOTHING to do with my competences, qualifications, and ability to get the job done!!"

    And as someone else said, this is also a part of our entitlement society. We are being trained to think that everyone has to bend to OUR wills, our beliefs, our culture, etc. But the problem with that is, you can't bend to everyone at once, not in a society as diverse as ours.

    Please.
  9. Visit  rnmama999 profile page
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    2 lawsuits? Like another PP said, nursing is 24/7, 365 days a year. Hospitals don't close on Easter, Christmas, and etc. You should have chosen a different profession. If you really want to "help" people you should just volunteer at a local hospital. What nurse manager in their right mind would want to hire you? Sorry but good luck and keep us updated.
  10. Visit  meandragonbrett profile page
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    You wouldn't stand a chance in hell of me hiring you if I knew that. Why would I place my facility in that situation when you have filed not one but TWO law suits?

    You should probably take a look at yourself and see how you might have contributed to it more.

    Also, if you need to have time off on the weekends maybe you should work in a clinic or ambulatory surgery center, infusion center, etc. Hospitals are a 24/7 operation and you are expected to buck up and deal with it.
  11. Visit  Guttercat profile page
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    Quote from Jeweles26
    I just wish people would stop throwing out the discrimination card. It de-legitimizes those instances when it is truly happening.

    "Oh, they didn't give me the job. It must be because I am white/black/hispanic/old/young/fat/thin/Jewish/Christian/gay/straight (You get the point)! It must have NOTHING to do with my competences, qualifications, and ability to get the job done!!"

    And as someone else said, this is also a part of our entitlement society. We are being trained to think that everyone has to bend to OUR wills, our beliefs, our culture, etc. But the problem with that is, you can't bend to everyone at once, not in a society as diverse as ours.

    Please.
    Very well stated.

    We live in interesting times in this country, where we have rapidly been transitioning from an assimilated society, to a pluralistic one.

    The trouble with pure pluralistic societies is that they are unsustainable in the long run. A house divided will not stand...
    anotherone, jvman, uRNmyway, and 1 other like this.
  12. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from SunshineSmile
    Sabbath observer. I told them I could work Saturday nights and any time Sundays, but not from Friday sundown to to Saturday sunset. They wanted me to work alternate weekends, which is common, and did not want to make any acommodations. I have worked for a facility that had no problem with me working every Sundays instead of every other Sat, Sun. It's what they call in legal jargon as "reasonable."
    ugh i wouldnt hire you either, if your name is easily googled and mentions your cases against former employers. you couldnt work the schedule, i dont see it reasonable to give you alone off every sabbath, in some areas this would be every nurse for one day a week or another. it is a 24/7 job.
  13. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    Quote from JSlovex2
    All the new grads that can't find a job...40,000 paid to someone who never worked.There's your job. Gone.
    That explains a hole never filled! but what do i care, someone whose never worked in health care thinks it doesnt matter. med surg isnt life saving or even icu. only er .


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