Charge nurse asking me to lie - page 6

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The other night I had a pt admitted that had a trach. I'm a new grad and have only been off orientation 5 weeks. The ER nurse told me in report that this pt has had the trach for a while and knew how to take care of it himself as... Read More


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    Quote from julz68
    Well, it has been a week since this fiasco happened and I have been off since. I'm on my way to work in a bit and I'm also a tad apprehensive to see my charge nurse again. I have no idea what was said between her and the NM nor if she went ahead and told her the huge fabricated lie. But, I guess I will find out in a few short hours!
    Wish me luck....I do not feel up to confrontation tonight.
    Beaming supportive thoughts to you as I type this. Remember that you did the right thing. Many years ago as a new nurse I faced an ethical issue with a co-worker and ended up reporting what she did. It is just that much harder with someone who is in a charge position. What you did takes courage and I'd be happy to have you as my nurse or take care of a member of my family.
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    Thanks! All of what you said is very true! I am a bad liar, that is why I choose not to, besides the fact that it is wrong and unethical. Thank you for your support!!
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    Quote from nursel56

    Beaming supportive thoughts to you as I type this. Remember that you did the right thing. Many years ago as a new nurse I faced an ethical issue with a co-worker and ended up reporting what she did. It is just that much harder with someone who is in a charge position. What you did takes courage and I'd be happy to have you as my nurse or take care of a member of my family.
    Thanks! Heading into work right now. I'll let you know how things went in the morning!
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    Quote from julz68

    Thanks! Heading into work right now. I'll let you know how things went in the morning!
    Good luck. Just be honest !!
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    Everything went well. Talked to NM this morning about it. The CN in question didn't work last night. But the NM thanked me for letting her know and we are going to set up a meeting with the 3 of us to talk it through. I'm feeling better about things, but still a bit nervous about the meeting. I'm not sure when that will take place. I know my heart is in the right place, I just don't want anyone to get in trouble for this misunderstanding.
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    Don't feel bad. And don't chalk it up to a misunderstanding. The NM asked you to lie and she got called out on it. It may be awkward between you two for a while but make it very clear in the meeting that you respect her and needed her help but it's not OK to go AWOL with out a trace. A NM needs to be responsible for her floor.
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    My only advice to you since all other bases are covered is DOCUMENT THIS SOMEWHERE FOR YOUR OWN RECORDS. Type this up in a word doc and file it away on your own. And then document what happens in that meeting. I'd even send a synopsis of the meeting in an email back to your RN manager. This makes sure that YOU understand whatever the gist of that meeting is when it's over, AND creates an immediately generated documentation of that gist that she'll more than likely respond to in the affirmative, or she'll point out points of misunderstanding, all of which is to your benefit.

    Do not accuse, do not speculate in this meeting. State only the facts. If it was indeed three hours, state it was, and then clearly state how you KNOW it was three hours. KNOW WHAT HAPPENED so your story doesn't accidently shift and DON'T LET anyone try to intimidate you into shifting it. Take notes with you if you need to; say you're stating from your own records. I don't care what this makes me look like with others - it keeps me straight when it's something like this and my story doesn't change (I'm an ex-cop - even 'what really happened' can get shifted around in the wrong hands/minds if someone decides to twist your words).

    I'd let the CN dig her own grave. If she doesn't admit to it, YOU now have insight into the type of person she is at work. Don't blab it around; that will only backfire. (Not saying you would, but some would.)

    This is one thing I learned in the military that I advise non-military folks to do. Document what happens to you, and follow up from a meeting with an email. There's no miscommunication that way, on any ends.
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