are there nurses who ACTUALLY care ? - page 3
After a couple of months of volunteer time in the ER, I declined a near 6-figure promotion (another field) to reenter the classroom. I spent my weekends there instead of getting plastered at bars or... Read More
Oct 10, '12I'll answer your question OP. No, nurses aren't all lovey-dovey, do-gooders, we aren't those sweet little helpers pure of heart and soul everybody thinks we are. You won't be entering this wonderful group of team-workers and friendly types. Actually we probably couldn't be farther from what the public thinks we are. Except maybe for Nursel56, she's just truly all rainbows and sunshine.
This comes as a shock to everyone usually. Really, no lie.
I'll also add this: Early on I met a nurse, a second career one just like me. She told me that I'd meet the most maladjusted people as I continued on through school and work. They are all bat-**** crazy - just wait you'll see she said. We'd laugh and laugh about these people over a beer every so often. Reminds me to call her.Last edit by netglow on Oct 10, '12
Oct 10, '12Quote from netglowFrom my experiences over the past year and a half my perception of them has changed a lot and not for the betterActually we probably couldn't be farther from what the public thinks we are.
This comes as a shock to everyone usually. Really, no lie. Except maybe for Nursel56, she's just truly all rainbows and sunshine.
Oct 10, '12I'm confused. Because some classmates decided to cut your presentation shorter, you came to the conclusions most nurses don't give a ****? If your going to make a big deal over something like that and jump to generalized conclusions, you are going to have a hard time. Forming that comrederie in nursing you speak of.Which is present. I had the best team in the icu I worked in. We are still friends. And get plastered in the clubs once a year in Atlantic city. And we are honest with each other and give constructive criticism and different point of views.But there is also the same corporate bs you left. So if you are going to miss that 6 figure salary with the expectation that all nurses are going around hugging each other, you better rethink. So, did you go into nursing for wanting to help patients? Because you love science? Or you just thought all nurses are smiley happy people to work with?Last edit by Esme12 on Oct 11, '12 : Reason: TOS/profanity
Oct 10, '12Shrug it off! If it doesn't effect your grade and you spoke to your teacher then just move on! I work with a nurse or two that would hang anyone out to dry to cover their butt. Are all nurses like this?? Heck no! I've been in a couple emergency situations where a cna calls stat and we all run to the room, we all care for the resident, and we all do the paper work! Nursing school and nursing is hard, it sucks your part was cut short but when clinicals and harder subjects come around this will be small potatoes. Don't sweat the small stuff! Good luck!
Oct 10, '12trust me worse things will happen as you go on in nursing school so for the sake of your sanity shrug this off. Nursing programs have a reputation of being some of the most competitive schools for a reason you know.
Oct 10, '12Quote from netglowI'm trying. I suspect those who know me well spit their beverages all over their screens when they read that one, though.Actually we probably couldn't be farther from what the public thinks we are. Except maybe for Nursel56, she's just truly all rainbows and sunshine.
Oct 11, '12Quote from MomRN0913no... i wish i could edit my initial post. a bit of all (3) i wanted to help people, ultimately. all water under the bridge now. some of these post actually bug me more than what happened in class. i thought twice about mixing my emotions with the internet. haha~! not yours... no offense to you. i am still trying to figure out what i posted to receive all this negative in some of these replies:I'm confused. Because some classmates decided to cut your presentation shorter, you came to the conclusions most nurses don't give a ****? ... So, did you go into nursing for wanting to help patients? Because you love science? Or you just thought all nurses are smiley happy people to work with?
Quote from caroladybellei understand where this was coming from... nobody knows this information but you folks on here. just an FYi.Many of us choose nursing as what we wish to do, based on beliefs and experiences. What you chose to leave behind, is your business and has no bearing on this situation. Many of us left behind good and bad life situations .....that has no bearing on how we will/should be treated in nursing. And to dwell on why we believe our personal sacrifice means more, serves to just annoy others and push them away.
Quote from caroladybellehow does a person correlate what i posted into "good reason" for cutting me short... without stating the reasons? do i owe you money? or take your seat on the bus, once.I suspect that if your part of the presentation is anything like your post, that your group members had good reason to cut you short. ?
beeker: "Your post screams of righteous indignation and "holier than thou"
if people feel this way about my situation... it is not my fault. it was not meant to come off that way. i should have left that part out.
somebody in another post... basically, called me stupid... ("i believe true intellect lies within those who realize their own ignorance...") human nature is... if "I" do not understand, THE OTHER PERSON must not know what they are talking about.
Asystole RN: i like this post the best and waiting for a reply from my previous post.Last edit by Esme12 on Oct 11, '12 : Reason: TOS/profanity
Oct 11, '12startingoveragain I considered giving a heads up when you said you didn't expect to get many replies because it's a touchy subject. Touchy subjects tend to get the most replies. I'm looking forward to asystole's reply, too.
Oct 11, '12OP,
OK, so you think business can be cutthroat? Listen, live, and learn. Nursing is mostly run and worked by women of whom a significant number of them is extremely insecure. You are making a mistake to believe that just b/c someone goes into nursing (or medicine) that person is doing it for altruistic reasons--or at least mostly so. Nah. Yes, there are those that do think somewhat like that--altruistically. But there are a number of nurses that are insecure, trippin, trying to climb ladders and stepping on others--or trying to polarize people against other individuals out of jealousy or whatever.
What you describe is less than a pebble in the pond compared to when you actually work in the field. Buck up, but just decide to be better and rise above it all.
Oct 11, '12I think you are being too sensitive. Also these group projects are more about learning to play well together because teamwork is needed to survive in nursing! It sounds like you are falling for some idealistic view of nurses as all sweetness and light, ala Florence Nightingale. If this group project has you already second guessing nursing then the real world of nursing will probably be too much for you. It can be an incredibly stressful job all on its own and then you throw in the corporate lean and mean management cost-cutting and I dare say you will find your prior job a pleasant cakewalk in comparison! Before I became a nurse I worked many jobs from waitressing to secretarial, some were better than others, but nursing is the hardest job I've ever done. There are days I dread going in, wish I could win the lottery or retire lol than deal with the assignment waiting for me!
I'm sorry to disappoint you but Corporate America is still alive and well in healthcare and nursing! You can't escape it! And it's worse in nursing because we have such stressful job and have to make life and death decisions in our patient care, when the corporate climate makes it almost impossible to do your job in a pleasant and unrushed way! You are browbeat by the computers that play big brother and if unfortunate the micromanagement of your meds, were they late or early, did you punch in a minute late or leave a minute early, did you clock too much overtime. You are put in an impossible situation where you are supposed to be all warm, lovey dovey people pleasing customer service waitress etc while doing everything as quick as possible, get out on time, put yourself last miss breaks and lunch so the Press Ganey customer service scores are up.
In this unrealistic pressure cooker environment if you expect all the nurses to be pleasant and friendly and helpful, it just won't happen. We all deal with stress differently and some are better at it than others. I've seen coworkers with "split" personality, crying, angry and freaking out at work and friendly happy and calm when away from work. I struggle to stay calm myself and don't always succeed and try to keep to myself otherwise I'll be short, snappy and sarcastic.
I think you are being offended too easily over a group project that in the scheme of things doesn't really matter! I don't know if you could handle nursing if you get offended so easily, but then again, I really wonder how any of us handle this job! Sadly, with the cost cutting in full swing and no reason to expect things to improve I expect things will only get worse!
I've had assignments where I just wanted to walk out the door and not come back! But the reality of the mortgage, bills and health insurance that keeps me from quitting flat out. I envy people who can just quit a job if they don't like it and not have a care in the world, but I'm not rich and not expecting an inheritance or lottery win so off to work I go, hoping and praying it will be ok!
Fretting over nursing school and a group project is the least of your worries, once you become a nurse and get a job your worries are just beginning!!!Last edit by brandy1017 on Oct 11, '12
Oct 11, '12Getting so upset over a group project is not worth it, at one time I considered going back for a BSN to my alma matar, they had convenient once a week classes but when I saw the group project requirements to get together and coordinate with a bunch of others I said forget it! I don't need the headache of trying to coordinate schedules between other nurses working different shifts, etc, etc, plus frankly I'm not into all the group project BS! If I ever go back to school it would have to be cheap and online and no clinicals, I have no desire to revisit clinicals and prove myself all over again and I had a wonderful clinical teacher that was kind. I've heard so many horror stories of students getting stuck with nasty teachers and clinical instructors, I remember my teachers fondly. School was so easy, a million times easier than actually working as a nurse is!
Nursing school or any education is just a stepping stone to getting a decent job. Make the best of it, learn all you can and don't take yourself too seriously. If you think school is hard just wait until the reality of nursing hits you and you'll look fondly back on school and wish you could go back!
Oct 11, '12It sounds to me as if, OP, you are a bit defensive. There may be some things in your former life in the corporate world that you could bring to the table for nursing. If you were offered a position with a 6 figure salary, I can only assume that you are good at what you did in the corporate world. With that being said, why you are sweating your classmates and/or team members somehow "outshining" you is a tad unclear. You have a voice, use it--each person could have the same amount of time and everyone shorten their part of the presentation. If you are someone who has been through the college process before and you are with students who are at their first time at the rodeo, they are going to attempt to do their best. They are fresh out of school, where AP classes and such reign, that they have to pass a state test to graduate, getting in to college of choice is competative, they are in debt student loan wise, and if not have parents up their butt to succeed. If you are in class with adults, perhaps they have other medical experience they are bringing to the table. No one knows their stories, including me. However, to talk yourself up to the extent that you did in your pp, one could assume that you are somehow above the other people in your class, or your self esteem needs a good overhaul.Understood. But to go even further that if classmates are acting in a way that is in your opinion inappropriate, it is reflective of the nursing culture as a whole.Which is a huge generalization. Bottom line is that your statements are passive agressive in nature, and all of us can get that way at one time or another. Recognize it, negotiate for yourself in group projects, do your personal best, and know at the end of the day your nursing practice is reflective of how you choose to conduct yourself, not if you got 5 minutes cut off from your presentation by those nasty kids.