Accused of withholding pain medication

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I am Charge RN on a 26 bed Med/Surg unit. I was accused of withholding a patient's pain medication. Here's the situation. I would appreciate hearing how other nurses interpret this situation.

The patient had a lip abcess I&D'd. He had two PRN pain medication orders. Demerol q6 prn, and Lortab q4 prn. He had received Lortab at 2200. At 2400, he was going to leave the floor to smoke, but his EJ access had come out, so it took almost an hour to resite him so he could get his antibiotics. After this was done, he asked for his Demerol. I asked him if he was going to go smoke, and he said that he was through for the night, so I gave him the Demerol. About 30 minutes later, he was going to smoke. I advised him of the risks, but he went anyway! When he returned, I told him that it would be 0700 before he could get anything else. About 0300, he was asking for the Lortab.

I was taught that if neither order was written for breakthrough pain, which neither was, you had to wait the time frequency of the last medication received, before giving anything else, to keep from overmedicating someone.

Thatmorning, he complained that I had withheld his pain medication. I was written up for this. My nurse director said that I should have given the medications 'as ordered'. I attempted to explain to her how meds are given, if neither are for breakthrough pain. All she said was, 'what is the policy?' She could not even tell me. I have not had the chance to see if my facility has a clear policy on this.

Please let me hear some perspective on this. I feel I carried out the orders correctly. It would be great if someone could direct me to a definitive policy on this.

Thanks for any advice!

T.C.

My point....I feel like I "know" this patient from dealing with so very many of his brothers and sisters in Florida (HUGE drug problems!). But there really are several issues in this post.....smoking policy, potential for drug abuse and other dangers while unsupervised, and the pain control issue. As to the latter, I would have given him his meds....but I might have called the doc first to get better orders, if not better meds. This ole' hospice nurse HATES Demerol AND polypharmacy!

To assume the patient was a drug abuser , based on these few sketchy facts...

boggles my mind.

Demerol and Lortab on that schedule nowhere near indicates a tolerance.

How do you feel about 80 mg of morphine an hour? Would you can that a developed tolerance?

It was not. The patient has an enzyme in the brain the works against opioids.

Every patient is different and to make those assumptions is arrogant.

Specializes in Oncology.

Is it common to admit patients for IV pain management after an I&D? I don't see many I&D's where I work, but it my primary care clinical we did them outpatient and had people using OTC pain management. I realize that a lip may be a more sensitive area, but I'm just wondering.

Specializes in ICU.

About smoking: My hospital is an absolutely tobacco-free facility, meaning smokers can't smoke anywhere on the campus, including their automobiles. If a patient insists on going out to smoke, an AMA form must be signed, and then the patient has to go back through the ER to get re-admitted to the hospital. As you can imagine, we seldom have anyone who wants to smoke that badly!

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.

The bottom line here is that the OP is not well versed in pain management.

The OP intentionally did not medicate the patient for pain when medication was requested.

The OP did not attempt to get the medication plan changed when it seemed that the patient had pain when she (in error) believed he could not receive another dose.

The OP is not responsible for discharge of a patient without an appropriate order to do so.

The OP is not responsible for the content or intent of hospital policy regarding smoking, he/she can only advise the patient of policy and then notify management if patient is not compliant.

I continue to be distressed by the number of nurses who seem to have very little information about pain management and the number of patients who suffer because of it.

Yup, to me it sounds like the meds were withheld because the nurse was irritated that the patient didn't do what she said. Punitive. I wouldn't want that nurse caring for me or mine.

Every patient is different and to make those assumptions is arrogant.

It is not arrogant, it is assessment. After almost three decades, that skill set is pretty good.

Could I swear this patient had a drug issue? Of COURSE not!! Nor did I state that he was. However, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....etc.

(And this is based on behavior, NOT medication intake, which is actually puny...)

Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.

(And this is based on behavior, NOT medication intake, which is actually puny...)

What about his behavior, though? That he went outside to smoke? Unwise, yes, but apparently not against hospital policy. That he changed his mind, said he'd be done for the night but then decided he needed pain meds? He can't definitively predict what his pain level will be in 3 hrs. That he reported the OP for withholding pain meds? She did.

Specializes in Med/surg, Quality & Risk.
About smoking: My hospital is an absolutely tobacco-free facility, meaning smokers can't smoke anywhere on the campus, including their automobiles. If a patient insists on going out to smoke, an AMA form must be signed, and then the patient has to go back through the ER to get re-admitted to the hospital. As you can imagine, we seldom have anyone who wants to smoke that badly!

Pssssh, really? It wouldn't be any sweat off ours' backs. Not like they're paying for any of it anyway.

Is it common to admit patients for IV pain management after an I&D? I don't see many I&D's where I work, but it my primary care clinical we did them outpatient and had people using OTC pain management. I realize that a lip may be a more sensitive area, but I'm just wondering.

Actually, blondy .. in the world of managed care/reimbursement , an I&D is usually a slam dunk for a full admission. Patients are not admitted for pain control. they are admitted because the surgeon just sliced into a cesspool of infection... opening the door for a septic response.

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.
Actually, blondy .. in the world of managed care/reimbursement , an I&D is usually a slam dunk for a full admission. Patients are not admitted for pain control. they are admitted because the surgeon just sliced into a cesspool of infection... opening the door for a septic response.

Shame that patients don't opt for the nicotine patch considering or that that are not allowed to smoke while hospitalized.

I can't believe pt's can still smoke... all hospital campuses in my area are smoke free.

Anyway, yes it was technically withheld. PRNs are for breakthrough pain. Did I miss something? Why could he not get anymore pain meds till 0700?

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