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This is a discussion on HELP!!!!Inability to swallow..... in Neuro Intensive Care Nursing, part of Critical Care Nursing ... OK...My neuro experience is very limited. I had a pt the last 2 days. Young man in his 20's....by mamason May 7, '07OK...My neuro experience is very limited. I had a pt the last 2 days. Young man in his 20's. Extensive HX of neuro impairment related to brain tumor etc. ( trying not to give too much info here for privacy reasons) Anyway, on Sat. he was eating and swallowing liquids slowly but fine. Sunday comes and he can't swallow at all. Nothing. Water just dribbles out of mouth, can't swallow food, can't swallow crushed meds in sherbert. I worked with him on and off most of my 12 hour shift. I was pretty worried about him. I realized this was a significant change in his condition. SO, I called neuro doc. Doc orders NG, NPO, and modified barium swallow. Parents come in after all this, and the pt is then starting to swallow sherbert. Slowly and is struggling very much doing so. I informed parents of what had happened during the shift and my concerns etc. Pt starts to eat solid food and swallowing but still struggling to do so.
OK.....My question is...Did I over react to this situation? NG was never placee related to refusal by parents. I'm worried that I may have over reacted, but, common sense tells me that this pt was progressing backwards instead of forwards. If I didnt notify the doc of the condition, what would have happened if the patient aspirated etc? Any thoughts. I'm second guessing myself here. My specialty is cardiac, not neuro.
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- May 7, '07 by JolieIt is NEVER wrong to notify a physician of a change in a patient's condition. Even though this young man improved slightly, it sounds like he still had great difficulty with swallowing, which could signal a change in his condition, and place him at risk for aspiration. You did the right thing by reporting this change, and altering his care as needed.
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- May 7, '07 by nrsang97You did the right thing. He had a change in condition and you notifed the doc and received appropriate orders. Its ok that mom and dad refused the NGT, and that you kept him NPO. You kept him from aspirating.
- May 7, '07 by Sabby_NCNo you did not over react. When in doubt 'shout' out about it and you did so by contacting the Neuro Dr. Always err on the side of caution no matter how you feel it is better to inform then ignore. Good for you.
- May 7, '07 by mamasonThanks for the input. I had worried about this all last night and all day today. Instinct told me something was going on with him. I just didn't know exactly what. And neuro in unfamilar territory for me. Actually, it really scared me. Upon admission, pt had an allergic reaction to two drugs while being dialyized. This was before being admitted to my unit. Actually a couple ays prior to coming to our unit. Protusion of tongue and hyper tonic neck muscles etc. So, I was wondering if this could have also been a contributing factor. Maybe the soft tissue in the neck was inflammed, swollen, or sore throat? No respiratory distress was noted at anytime under my care. But, what if? I guess I'll just drive myself crazy thinking about this.
- May 8, '07 by mamasonThanks for everyone's reassurance. Today, I have come to the conclusion that I did my job. I had the pt's best interest at heart. And I can feel good about that. Like someone mentioned earlier, it's better to error on the side of caution.
- May 8, '07 by LadyNASDAQSounds like you did everything perfectly and you are a safe Nurse. Don't sweat it. You thought he would aspirate. That's enough right there.
- May 9, '07 by AquarianYou did the right thing, mamason.
I'm just wondering why an aspiration precaution was not ordered in the first place, when as you have said, the px had hx of protruding tongue and hypertonic neck prior to getting transferred?Last edit by Aquarian on May 9, '07
- May 9, '07 by CHATSDALEif a patient is having difficulty swallowing stop attempts until md is notified and appropriate action taken
high danger of aspiration resulting in a whole other set of problems that the patient does need
pat yourself on the back on this one
- May 9, '07 by mamasonThat took place prior to him being admitted to our unit. I should have worded it a little better I think. But, it was still significant enough to warrant an aspiration precaution. Because, after the fact, I was told by night shift that this pt had a hx of pocketing food. That would have been reason enough to institute aspiration precautions I think. The pocketing of food info was given to me a little too late and had not been passed on in report. I think that this was overlooked by quite a few different nurses. Maybe it should have been addressed right away. But, I made sure that he was put on aspiration precautions after what I had observed from caring for this pt. It just shook me up a little. I wasn't sure if I was over reacting to the situation or if I had missed something while caring for him. I've learned a lot from this experience though.