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Oct 18, 2009 09:41 PM

ICU Staffing Ratio & (Floating icu nurses)

by urbanRN

Hi all

I work in a combined MICU/SICU/Trauma unit. I' m just wondering what the typical staffing ratio for your units are. If you are given tech and if staffing pull your ICU nurses to other floors, including Med/Surg. This situation has been happening quite a bit in my unit where they pull our nurse from ICU to CCU, Stepdown, Tele and recently Med/Surg. Also quite often we are only given 1 tech or none. To make matters worse, they pull a nurse sometimes as many as 3 of our nurse at one to to staff other units and leave our unit short. Normally we get 2pt to 1 nurse ratio but have been getting 3:1 lately. To compound the situation, my hospital is the only trauma hospital in the county and we getting some crazy S--T. mostly at night which is the shift I work.

What are your thoughts??


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Old Oct 20, 2009, 04:43 PM

Default Re: ICU Staffing Ratio & (Floating icu nurses)
I'd speak up, 3:1 is a lot to handle even in a well-functioning ICU with a good team effort.

We have a max of 2:1 on our unit. It's 8 beds, so typically we get 4 nurses and a nurse assistant, or 5 nurses and no nurse assistant. If things are horrendous and we need 6 nurses we can make it happen, but I've only seen it a handful of times. Don't let the 8 beds thing fool you though, we have (IIRC) a total of 80 MICU beds throughout the hospital, not including CICU, SICU, and neuro ICU.

The pull order is agency/overtime/staffed. Our hospital is huge and is staffed fairly well and I've never heard of an ICU nurse covering a med-surg/GPU.
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from PMFB-RN
Old Oct 25, 2009, 11:22 PM

Default Re: ICU Staffing Ratio & (Floating icu nurses)
Originally Posted by urbanRN View Post
Hi all

I work in a combined MICU/SICU/Trauma unit. I' m just wondering what the typical staffing ratio for your units are. If you are given tech and if staffing pull your ICU nurses to other floors, including Med/Surg. This situation has been happening quite a bit in my unit where they pull our nurse from ICU to CCU, Stepdown, Tele and recently Med/Surg. Also quite often we are only given 1 tech or none. To make matters worse, they pull a nurse sometimes as many as 3 of our nurse at one to to staff other units and leave our unit short. Normally we get 2pt to 1 nurse ratio but have been getting 3:1 lately. To compound the situation, my hospital is the only trauma hospital in the county and we getting some crazy S--T. mostly at night which is the shift I work.

What are your thoughts??
*** I work in a 24 bed trauma / CVICU / SICU. We are the only trauma hospital in the region and we also take post op open heart patients with IABP, CRRT, PA cath, etc. We always staff 1:2 and often 1:1. The only time we do 1:3 is in emergency like severe snow storm that prevents other staff from getting to the hospital. On night shift the charge only has one patient and on day shift we have dedicated charge. We also always have at least one and more often two nurses who have one patient and are open for the admit. We also have one CNA on all the time and two on between 1500-1900. 1:3 is not safe in critical care I would refuse to do it except in limited emergency situations. The lack of an aid and being short of nurses is only going to result in increased pressure ulcer, central line infection, and VAP rates and in the end end up costing the hospital much more money than proper staffing would have.
Our nurses are only required to float to the MICU, never other units and certainly NEVER to med-surg, though many do by choice.
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