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  • Aug 26 '13

    Absolutely there are options! The trick is to do a lot of research. Off the top of my head, here are some of my thoughts:

    - Do not take out educational assistance with your employer.
    - Check into getting food stamps or any other benefit you can get. Even if you don't think you may qualify. Make the appointment and sit down and talk with them. Even if they can't/won't give you any (or any more) they may be able to point you in the right direction to another agency that can help.
    - Many states have educational assistance programs that are often overlooked. Search these out.
    - There may be additional state benefits that you may qualify for because you have children. These can help ease your burden. And again, even if you call around and they can't help you can ask them if there are any other agencies they know of that might be able to do something.
    - Talk with your Financial Aid department. Ask for more $$. I they say, "No" then ask them if there are any other federal or state programs you can take advantage of.
    - Call The Federal Student Aid information center at (800) 433-3243. Ask them if there is anything else you may qualify for. A link to their contact us page is here: https://studentloans.gov/myDirectLoa...rmation.action
    - As a last resort, consider taking out private loans. I stress the "As a last resort" part. There are places that will loan money to you with no cosigner. They will have a higher interest rate but they are out there.

    Hope this helps. Good luck to you!

  • Aug 26 '13

    Take the residency. Positions that offer tuition reimbursement are hard to come by these days. Also, the residency will not only help you hone your nursing skills, it will make you a safer and more confident nurse in the long run. Four years ago, I was hired at my present hospital BECAUSE OF my residency training. My manager admitted this to me when I was trying to get a former classmate a position at my hospital. He regarded my friend as not having as much experience as I do, and yet we both graduated at the same time.

  • Aug 26 '13

    Currently in an 18 week Versant program and absolutely love it. From what I've heard from recruiters, it's a great thing to have on your résumé for the future. In these residencies you get a bit of everything regardless of what unit you're on - for example, we had lectures and lab time with vents (even though med Surg won't have them) and an arrhythmia course. Granted, this is just my experience. Yours may be entirely different. I feel supported instead of babied. They treat us like we're learning but in no way see us as anyone else other than a nurse.

    And the perks you mentioned sound totally worth it! :-)

  • Aug 26 '13

    I just finished a residency and I loved every minute of it. 6 months of supervised orientation is much better than 4-6 weeks and turn you loose. I did the first job and when I had the chance to get in a new grad residency, I jumped. I just had a SLAMMED day and I was properly prepared b/c of the residency.

    I don't care about my resume, but I would think it would be a plus to have a residency. One, that you were worth the time that the program invests in you AND the training you get. I personally think it makes one a better nurse having gone through it.

  • Aug 26 '13

    I don't think you should worry about what's going to look good on a resume, because you're going to put your nursing experience on a resume, not what sort of training you received in the beginning. Residency title aside, are there other parts of the job offers that are making you lean one way or another?

  • Aug 26 '13

    It really depends on the residency program as no two are alike. Hell, no two Versant (brand) programs are alike. Even hospitals within the same system differ: there is a university hospital in my state that has three hospitals in their system, one has a new grad orientation that runs for whole year, and the two others are 12-18 weeks. In my opinion, nursing education in the past decade has shifted from "training nurses" to "producing graduates who can pass the NCLEX." New graduate programs serve to address gaps in knowledge/practicum.

    I'm in a "residency" program right now (I think of it more as a orientation targeted at transitioning new graduates); I dig it, tons of networking, and up-to-date evidence based practice and information. I have a three patient load (I'm one month in) and my preceptor serves as a conduit for guidance. They don't baby you unless they truly feel you are being unsafe or need to move at a slower pace. (Everyone learns at a different pace.)

    On another note, why are you listening to your fellow new graduates? This sounds like the blind leading the blind. If residency programs were so "bad" then why the hell does UCLA, USC, UC Davis, Stanford, etc. tote them? And why do you care about how they look on a resume? Are you going to switch out of jobs immediately? By the time you look for another job, you will have a good 1-2 years of experience under your belt, rendering the 4 months of residency minuscule to your actual on the floor experience.

    At the end of the day, it's really up to you. Don't base an important life decision from what you read on an internet forum where anyone can be anyone and type whatever they want.

  • Aug 26 '13

    I'd be really careful assuming that there are more opportunities in nursing. There is not a nursing shortage, there is an experienced nursing shortage. Out of the 50 or so that I graduated with maybe 10 of us had jobs lined up immediately. There are some who never got jobs as far as I'm aware and have either quit looking or are working in different fields. There are some new grads that have been without nursing related jobs for so long now that they are not marketable, they've lost skills since graduating.

    This might sound extremely pessimistic but anyone considering the field needs to be aware of the job market is really like.

  • Aug 26 '13

    Try your local county health department. I was offered $20/hr. for immunizations.. etc. Good luck.

  • Aug 25 '13

    You can check into teaching NCLEX prep courses. I taught for Kaplan for 7 years (GRE/GMAT/LSAT), and the pay was really good for very part-time, flexible hours. I know they're generally desperate for NCLEX teachers.

  • Aug 23 '13

    How many of you nurses have told your kids this? LOL.

  • Aug 23 '13

    Keep trying. Me I wouldnt even list the job. Dont know where you are but if you would be will to go into psych the are always hiring at Thomasville medical center in NC. And everyone I worked with was in thier second career. 50yrs would be zero of a barrier.

  • Aug 23 '13

    Well said. A missing med "an inhaler"... is a HUGE error. Breathing is on the top of Maslow's hierarchy for a reason!

  • Aug 23 '13

    Lost you At "old Hag" Perhaps that attitude was apparent.
    BTW- I landed my dream job @ 61.
    Respect goes a long way.

  • Aug 23 '13

    I think the OP is new here and did not express her problem/views in a "politically correct" way ... but I think she raises a valid point. She and her colleagues may be dealing with a serious situation in which patients can be harmed. As a profession, we need to develop fair, compassionate ways of dealing with nurses who, because of age or illness or whatever, can no longer meet an acceptable standard of performance.

    Many of us will face this issue in our careers -- both as we become less able with advancing age, and as we see it in our colleagues. Just because we were once at the peak of our abilities and able to leap tall buidlings in a single bound does not mean we will always be so capable. How can best handle that when it starts happening to us? How can we help our colleagues cope with those changes and know when it is time to move on to another stage of life? Do we wait until a patient is seriously harmed?

    Let's stop bashing the OP for her lack of grace in bringing up the topic ... and start addressing the topic itself. It is a serious one that is expected to become more common as the large number of baby boomers in the workforce start becoming elderly. We can't ignore the reality of it.

  • Aug 23 '13

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    I think that if management was as fed up with her they would do something about it. I think patience and kindness is a virtue.

    I think she gets tearful and upset because she hears her fellow nurses making unkind statements about her and poking fun of her.......in some circles that is called bullying or lateral violence. I think as much as pregnant women get allowances to avoid infectious diseases and other patient assignments due to pregnancy...... that if this nurse really isn't able to or doesn't like to care for the open hearts.....allowances can be made for her by her fellow workers. Turnabout is fair play

    If you were a new grad and she did this to you....she would be an old bat eating her young.

    You don't know what personal burdens she has that forces her to work. Maybe she just loves to be around her peers and patients. Many nurses that were supposed to retire can't because when the market crashed we lost half if not all of our retirement and since hospitals don't provide pensions....we can't retire as there is nothing left to retire on.

    Back in the day we tried to help patients and go that extra mile....it is what we did. It is what she still should do. We did NOT try to push our personal biases down our patients throats. If a simple cigarette helps defuse a situation it beats using the energy, and time, causing the patient to get angry and upset and having to call the MD, negotiate with the patient medicate the patient....all which is very time consuming.

    I don't know your patient nurse ratio on night but I an sure you all would like to adsorb her 6 or 7 patients in addition to your load. I think poking fun at her appearance because if you don't think she hears you...guess again.

    I think your floor needs some self reflection and your supervisors need to exercise more discretion with their personal opinions...like shutting their mouths.....for it doesn't belong being vented to the staff as it adds fuel to the fire and does nothing to promote teamwork.

    Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."

    Remember ........every day you age so...... There but for the Grace of God go I.
    I love your post Esme, your right on the money!

    I've worked with an RN who was in her mid/late 70s and she was incredible. The patients weren't "afraid" of the way she looked (you sound quite ageist OP btw) she was able to relate to them and make them feel so safe. Plus she was OLD SCHOOL with some of her practices but the patients loved her for them!

    My point is, I think if your work was really worried, management would have done more then "stop her from doing CABG preps".

    and I agree I think she's crying because she picks up that the rest of the staff are making fun of her. This story is really upsetting for me, she obviously loves her work and the patients and she's being laughed at by her co workers. I want to give her a hug and I don't even know her!

    And I would rather an old school nurse look after me and my family over the new style of nurses that the western world produces at present any day.


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