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Joined: Aug 26, '10; Posts: 651 (73% Liked) ; Likes: 2,245
Retired Emergency Nurse Practitioner; from GB
Specialty: 30+ year(s) of experience in Emergency Department

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    XB9S likes this.

    Quote from poppyflower
    thanks for your reply, but you didnt answer my question. Put simply, i am asking whether you can get a promotion from band 5 to 6 in the same department without having to apply, and go through an interview for it as level of education and skill increases.

    As XB9S said;

    Quote from XB9S
    Unless you were appointed on a trainee contract which specifically states promotion will be gained after successful completion of ........... then no, you should go through a fair and transparent interview process.

    What does your contract of employment say? You should have your conditions clearly stated. Also what did it say on any advertisements for posts? Did it say "automatic increase to band 6 when course completed?" If it did say that then you may have a case to take to the union.

    If everyone is getting a promotion but not you, that is discrimination and can be addressed. However if the band 6 posts are up for fair competition and you just don't get one then that is just bad luck.

    You do say that 2 band 6 positions were opened and only 2 band 5 nurses got them...

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    K+MgSO4 and XB9S like this.

    Simple answer to your question whether you should all automatically be a band 6 is... money.
    Band 6's cost more than band 5's.

    My question would be why were staff getting a band 6 for what is basically a clinic post?
    Before you answer that can I tell you that I know what is involved in a pre-assessment clinic. This role used to be carried out by the junior doctor and medical students.

    So to answer your question should you be a band 6? No in my opinion. Only the charge nurse should be a band 6. Neither would I class you as specialist nurses - sorry.

    If you are getting a band 6 for this post - grab it with both hands. Someone somewhere may put a stop to it.

  • 7

    Quote from djh123
    My all-time favorite 'prep' name, which I've only heard of once, in the 90's, when a friend had to take it, was 'Evacu-quick'. Kinda leaves nothing to the imagination...
    We have (used to have) a prep called "Golightly." Seriously it is/was anything but.

  • 6
    OldDude, wondern, Fiona59, and 3 others like this.

    Love it Davey, brought back soooooo many memories!!!!

    Just one question; you got propofol??
    When I got my colonoscopy I got a bit of wood (no leather straps - BSE don'tcha know) to bite on.

    Seriously, how far up do you guys go? I was working on the day, went along had the procedure and after a suitable time went back to work.

    Hope everything was OK and nothing found.

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    Quote from qimenglan9
    I'm pretty open to any country that isn't hot and humid.

    There are a few I found in the UK, but the pay is horrible compared to what I make now.
    UK definitely not hot and humid.

    I have said before; "do not do direct comparisons with salaries!" They do not equate. Costs are different. You would get what all nurses in UK get.
    Also, how much do you think you will be paid by organisations that go into war zones etc.

    Biggest problem trying for UK is that your qualifications are not enough. You need a specific Mental Health Registration. UK nurses are more specialised.

    Lots of posts on the World Nursing forum about becoming qualified to work in the UK system - takes lots of time, effort and money.

    Have you thought about Medecins sans Frontieres? Oxfam? (although they are going through a rough patch just now). Also Red Cross.

    Good luck.

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    wondern, Davey Do, Nursetom1963, and 4 others like this.

    Do these scrubs make my butt look big!?

    Going by the title of this thread I would say; if you think your butt looks big then it probably is big.

    Sorry, could not resist as that is what I told my female colleagues if they asked that question - they soon stopped asking me.

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    Davey Do likes this.

    Quote from klone
    Ah, I think I found it! Nursing Now - raising the profile and status of nursing worldwide - Nursing Now

    It looks like a predominantly European initiative.
    Thailand, Pakistan, Australia, Jordan, South Africa,Canada. All those countries, and more have representatives and are not in Europe and it does say global. They seem to be under the auspices of WHO.

    The sticking point for US is going to be their programmes where the goal is universal health coverage.

    They seem to have had a launch at the UNC Chapel Hill school of nursing - did any of you see it? I saw nothing in the UK media about it. I think we were more worried about the snow.

    Be interesting to keep an eye on this.

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    sirI likes this.

    First off, I am presuming this should be in the Nursing in the UK forum but I am sure one of the moderators will move it.

    As a student it is your preceptors role to ensure that you have the chance to obtain the competencies required. In ED students could not do anything unsupervised but they still managed to gain good experiences.

    Make sure you have your learning plan ready, let them know what you want from the placement and ask what is available. Make sure you come across as enthusiastic - makes life easier for your preceptor if you have a keen student.

    Bottom line, don't sweat it ahead of time. Students have been going into the community for years and coping well. Even I did it way back in the "old days" when Florence was a girl.

    Good luck.

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    Quote from 3ringnursing
    I'm genuinely curious about this type of mindset, as to how this comes to be (if it's not a behavior carried over from childhood). How do some patient's arrive at the crossroads of this type of thinking?

    I personally have encountered a small percentage of patient's that truly feel all their wants should be granted right now with special disposition, despite the fact that they themselves may have played a part in creating the bad scenario they are currently suffering.

    Kind of like, "The rules are fine, but they apply to everyone else, just not me" mentality.

    Many of these same patient's also do not seem to give a fig about the fact that their demands or behavior geared toward having their wants granted on the instant may possibly have an impact on how addressing the needs of the next patient may also be effected, due to being a high user of medical resources without emergent need.

    It's possible these patients may all be very nice people in their everyday lives, I don't know - but yelling, threatening, or demanding while asking for something sure seems to leave a bad taste in my mouth so to speak while interacting with them. I do try to cut them some slack while trying my best to remain cool and unruffled, but privately here? I admit I feel frustrated and irritated at times on the inside (like geez, didn't your parents ever teach you manners?). Please and thank you sure goes a long way in my opinion, and it's free. Sometimes I just want to say, "I'm not a genie in a bottle".
    As per my previous post; you are encouraging this behaviour!

    Walk away and tell them that they get nothing until they are polite and reasonable.

    They have learned that if you shout and scream then you get what you want - every drug addict knows this. That is why they are aggressive from the start.

    Edited to add; and by the way, they are not "very nice people" in their everyday lives. They have no reason to be.

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    Quote from BCgradnurse
    Curious....why did you post this in the Political threads?
    Or what any of it has to do with snowflakes.

    As far as I can tell reading the little stories of patients X, Y and Z all that is showing is that their bad behaviour is being encouraged by their provider (I may be using provider wrongly, I am in UK and don't fully understand US system).
    If patients are shouting at staff police should be called and they should be removed and/or arrested. If patients are phoning and shouting then the phone gets hung up.

    Doing anything else is just reinforcing them to continue.

  • 9

    Ha, ha. I have posted a bit about offence and I have been moderated to ensure my post does not cause offence.

    Love the irony.

    PS moderators, I am NOT complaining, I completely understand why you moderated my post but I could not resist commenting on the irony.

  • 5

    So someone easy offended? Needs political correctness to censor offensive speech or behaviors?

    Everyone gets offended at some point in their life, the important part is how they deal with it.
    I like Stephen Fry's answer to offence. (Warning, 1 bit of bad language at the end)

    Stephen Fry on - YouTube

  • 5

    A group of us males went on holiday for a few days last year. Person who was up dancing and chatting to the girls the most was a guy in his mid 70's.

    We are going back this year to the same place and I am going to follow his lead.

  • 5

    Had 35 years as a nurse and went 2 months before my 62nd birthday.

    Don't miss it at all and find things to do, we recently got a puppy so that keeps me active and I volunteer in a museum.

    Had a lot of health issues over the years and was taking painkillers every time I worked and was getting fed up of my management and patients. Woke up one morning and said "time to go." Best decision I made. And in 3 years time I get a state pension to add to my works pension.

    Happiest nurses I know are the ones who retired in their 60's and now say "I don't know how I found time to work."

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    Crush likes this.

    Quote from Ruby Vee
    Good grief Calling someone an ******* in that scenario is slightly unhinged. If I see a man I want to dance with, I'll simply tell him I would like to dance with him and just ask. That's kind of my modus operandi for most romantic activites involving men, and I've yet to meet a man who wasn't at least a bit flattered
    No, not really unhinged. Remember, this is Scotland so it was "almost" affectionate. We all thought it was very funny and that the poor girl had a point.

    Quote from macawake
    Yeah, so not your fault.

    For the life of me I can't understand why some women find it so hard to make a decision and own it. I can understand wanting to discuss matters and reach a concensus on matters of grave importance and with far-reaching consequences, but a cup of coffee? I did ask my friend on that roadtrip why she couldn't just have said that she wanted to stop for lunch at that particular restaurant. Her response was; well I don't want to decide for you I tried to explain that stating her preference was not the same thing as deciding for me. I still have the option of saying no if I'd thought her suggestion was a terrible one.
    No, I think you'll find that after 43 years of marriage it WAS my fault. I should be able to read her mind.

    But I still love's her.