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Joined Jun 13, '10 - from 'Somewhere'. She has '2 RN, 3 tech' year(s) of experience and specializes in 'Med-Surg, NICU'. Posts: 2,100 (60% Liked) Likes: 5,718

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  • May 25

    "Above and beyond"

    That one pisses me off so much. As if keeping people alive and safe and dealing with crazy patients and their family isn't enough.

    Nurses are too busy being run ragged with more patients, tasks and charting on our plates to go "above and beyond." I'll go "above and beyond" when we have adequate staffing, less charting and no stupid tasks that take up more time.

  • May 24

    Do you think employers must accomodate everyone's religious beliefs or just those who share yours?

    Do you think Christians should not be required to work every Sunday?

    Should there be an atheist differential on the weekends?


    Quote from CiaMia
    I have had this conversation multiple times in my own practice with my rabbi, and with a beit din (rabbinical court), and have read extensively on the subject because I am passionate about it. The RN role is vastly different to that of a provider -- and that makes a difference. I was told explicitly NOT to drive but rather was given another solution; you are oversimplifying immensely complex issues that need case by case consideration. ETA- in fact, my own rabbi was not comfortable giving me an answer and had to consult with one of his own before we came to a solution; and even that was with the caveat that it would not be long-term.

    I am deeply involved in both my hospital community AND the Jewish community. Regardless, I am not going to continue a circular exchange here. My original point - that calling the employee in question "unethical" is unfair and unfounded and that we have no idea what the conversation was to begin with - is one I still stand by.

  • May 24

    I guess if employers are willing to accommodate Jewish people by giving them Saturdays off, then they must allow all Christians off Sundays. The problem is that when one gets into a 24/7/365 job, the expectation is that one must be willing to work weekends, holidays, etc. People don't stop needing healthcare on Saturdays.

    Similarly, a Jehovah witness must be willing to administer blood transfusions....it comes with the territory.

    Your religious freedom ends when it encroaches on others. And in the OP's case, it does. An employer could be accused of religious discrimination and favoritism which breaks federal law.

    If the nurse can't work Saturdays, she should find a job where working Saturdays aren't required.

  • May 24

    Do you think employers must accomodate everyone's religious beliefs or just those who share yours?

    Do you think Christians should not be required to work every Sunday?

    Should there be an atheist differential on the weekends?


    Quote from CiaMia
    I have had this conversation multiple times in my own practice with my rabbi, and with a beit din (rabbinical court), and have read extensively on the subject because I am passionate about it. The RN role is vastly different to that of a provider -- and that makes a difference. I was told explicitly NOT to drive but rather was given another solution; you are oversimplifying immensely complex issues that need case by case consideration. ETA- in fact, my own rabbi was not comfortable giving me an answer and had to consult with one of his own before we came to a solution; and even that was with the caveat that it would not be long-term.

    I am deeply involved in both my hospital community AND the Jewish community. Regardless, I am not going to continue a circular exchange here. My original point - that calling the employee in question "unethical" is unfair and unfounded and that we have no idea what the conversation was to begin with - is one I still stand by.

  • May 24

    On the one hand, I believe that OP should stay out of it. However...

    I think it is absolute BS. Why would someone choose to work in acute care knowing that the job is 24/7...Saturdays included? I think management is SO wrong to accomodate this employee and knowing that OP is getting slammed with four (!) vents, I would be fuming. And not only that, but this person isn't required to work every Sunday AND receives full-time benefits for part-time work? Oh heck no.

    OP's union and HR must be controlled by idiots because this is a law suit waiting to happen on multiple levels. Severely unsafe staffing, blatant favoritism...ridiculous.

    Start looking for another job ASAP.This unit (and facility) is the pits.

  • May 23

    Do you think employers must accomodate everyone's religious beliefs or just those who share yours?

    Do you think Christians should not be required to work every Sunday?

    Should there be an atheist differential on the weekends?


    Quote from CiaMia
    I have had this conversation multiple times in my own practice with my rabbi, and with a beit din (rabbinical court), and have read extensively on the subject because I am passionate about it. The RN role is vastly different to that of a provider -- and that makes a difference. I was told explicitly NOT to drive but rather was given another solution; you are oversimplifying immensely complex issues that need case by case consideration. ETA- in fact, my own rabbi was not comfortable giving me an answer and had to consult with one of his own before we came to a solution; and even that was with the caveat that it would not be long-term.

    I am deeply involved in both my hospital community AND the Jewish community. Regardless, I am not going to continue a circular exchange here. My original point - that calling the employee in question "unethical" is unfair and unfounded and that we have no idea what the conversation was to begin with - is one I still stand by.

  • May 23

    Do you think employers must accomodate everyone's religious beliefs or just those who share yours?

    Do you think Christians should not be required to work every Sunday?

    Should there be an atheist differential on the weekends?


    Quote from CiaMia
    I have had this conversation multiple times in my own practice with my rabbi, and with a beit din (rabbinical court), and have read extensively on the subject because I am passionate about it. The RN role is vastly different to that of a provider -- and that makes a difference. I was told explicitly NOT to drive but rather was given another solution; you are oversimplifying immensely complex issues that need case by case consideration. ETA- in fact, my own rabbi was not comfortable giving me an answer and had to consult with one of his own before we came to a solution; and even that was with the caveat that it would not be long-term.

    I am deeply involved in both my hospital community AND the Jewish community. Regardless, I am not going to continue a circular exchange here. My original point - that calling the employee in question "unethical" is unfair and unfounded and that we have no idea what the conversation was to begin with - is one I still stand by.

  • May 23

    "Above and beyond"

    That one pisses me off so much. As if keeping people alive and safe and dealing with crazy patients and their family isn't enough.

    Nurses are too busy being run ragged with more patients, tasks and charting on our plates to go "above and beyond." I'll go "above and beyond" when we have adequate staffing, less charting and no stupid tasks that take up more time.

  • May 22

    I work in a level 3 NICU and we can go weeks without a vent and months without drips. Our census usually consists of feeder-growers, kids on bubble/nasal cannula, NAS babies and the big kids acting up (low blood sugars, etc).

    I wouldn't have a problem with it if I didn't want to become a NNP. I feel like the experience I'm getting isn't enough to prepare for advanced practice...it stinks.

  • May 22

    On the one hand, I believe that OP should stay out of it. However...

    I think it is absolute BS. Why would someone choose to work in acute care knowing that the job is 24/7...Saturdays included? I think management is SO wrong to accomodate this employee and knowing that OP is getting slammed with four (!) vents, I would be fuming. And not only that, but this person isn't required to work every Sunday AND receives full-time benefits for part-time work? Oh heck no.

    OP's union and HR must be controlled by idiots because this is a law suit waiting to happen on multiple levels. Severely unsafe staffing, blatant favoritism...ridiculous.

    Start looking for another job ASAP.This unit (and facility) is the pits.

  • May 22

    "Above and beyond"

    That one pisses me off so much. As if keeping people alive and safe and dealing with crazy patients and their family isn't enough.

    Nurses are too busy being run ragged with more patients, tasks and charting on our plates to go "above and beyond." I'll go "above and beyond" when we have adequate staffing, less charting and no stupid tasks that take up more time.

  • May 22

    I work in a level 3 NICU and we can go weeks without a vent and months without drips. Our census usually consists of feeder-growers, kids on bubble/nasal cannula, NAS babies and the big kids acting up (low blood sugars, etc).

    I wouldn't have a problem with it if I didn't want to become a NNP. I feel like the experience I'm getting isn't enough to prepare for advanced practice...it stinks.

  • May 21

    On the one hand, I believe that OP should stay out of it. However...

    I think it is absolute BS. Why would someone choose to work in acute care knowing that the job is 24/7...Saturdays included? I think management is SO wrong to accomodate this employee and knowing that OP is getting slammed with four (!) vents, I would be fuming. And not only that, but this person isn't required to work every Sunday AND receives full-time benefits for part-time work? Oh heck no.

    OP's union and HR must be controlled by idiots because this is a law suit waiting to happen on multiple levels. Severely unsafe staffing, blatant favoritism...ridiculous.

    Start looking for another job ASAP.This unit (and facility) is the pits.

  • May 21

    I guess if employers are willing to accommodate Jewish people by giving them Saturdays off, then they must allow all Christians off Sundays. The problem is that when one gets into a 24/7/365 job, the expectation is that one must be willing to work weekends, holidays, etc. People don't stop needing healthcare on Saturdays.

    Similarly, a Jehovah witness must be willing to administer blood transfusions....it comes with the territory.

    Your religious freedom ends when it encroaches on others. And in the OP's case, it does. An employer could be accused of religious discrimination and favoritism which breaks federal law.

    If the nurse can't work Saturdays, she should find a job where working Saturdays aren't required.

  • May 21

    "Above and beyond"

    That one pisses me off so much. As if keeping people alive and safe and dealing with crazy patients and their family isn't enough.

    Nurses are too busy being run ragged with more patients, tasks and charting on our plates to go "above and beyond." I'll go "above and beyond" when we have adequate staffing, less charting and no stupid tasks that take up more time.


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