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    Kitiger likes this.

    It sounds like you want to leave.

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    kbrn2002 and elkpark like this.

    Quote from FolksBtrippin
    You are not correct that a boss can fire any worker for any reason, at any time. That's a myth I see perpetuated all the time on this site and it's high time we get things straight. If you report a safety violation you are a whistleblower. Federal law protects whistleblowers from being fired. Read up on it. Know your rights.

    Always, all the time, and in every circumstance you have the right to be free from sexual assault. Being employed does not negate your right to be free from sexual assault. No one has the right to sexually assault someone. Ever. Even prisoners, who must forego some rights, have the right to be free from sexual assault.
    Theory is often different than the practical reality.

    They can always conjure up some other reason to fire someone. No, they won't tell you they're firing you for whistleblowing. They'll go after you for attendance, tardiness, doing something else wrong, anything they can think of. The tension makes it a miserable place to be. If they want you gone, you will be gone. No matter what lies or misrepresentations they come up with, no matter how long it takes.

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    What will your orientation be like?

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    JustMe54, Goldengopher, and Kitiger like this.

    OP, are the Workers' Comp labs back yet?

    Hep C is treatable, in case you do have it.

    If your blood is negative for Hep C, they should do repeat labs on you 2 or 3 times. Ask when those will be done. I think you will be fine.

    Please just be super careful and keep in touch with Workers' Comp/Employee Health.

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    [QUOTE=Nurse Beth;9531133]Hello Nurse Beth,
    I once worked in a nursing home 3 years ago, where a dementia patient suffered a severe fall injury (fractured neck) in the bathroom, in spite of all fall precautions in place. The injury was found non operable, given his cognition etc. 7 days later patient died. Now patient's family sued the facility but their lawyer served me a notice of deposition as a witness to the occurrence. I no longer work for the facility. I had relocated out to another state. They told me I was going to be a witness since I was nurse on duty and wrote the incident report. What do you think is best I do? Attend the deposition scheduled where I currently live? Request a copy of the incident report because I cannot remember the patient very well. If I witness for the patient, do you think the facility will come after me?

    Responses appreciated.


    First, who is "they"?

    If someone wants to depose you, they need to pay your way to travel to wherever they want you to be. Housing, rental car, time missed at work, lodging, etc.

    How can you testify about something you don't really recall?

    How did they locate you?

    I don't know if the facility will come after you. In what way might they do that?

    Were you actually a witness? Did you actually see what happened? How is it that all fall precautions were in place and the pt still fell? Did anyone respond to the alarm that I assume was going off? What was staffing like?

    Have you been subpoenaed by either side?

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    You don't have to start as an RN where you'd have access to meds and prescription pads. Start as a ward clerk or in Central Supply or somewhere like that if it's easier.

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    RobbiRN likes this.

    Quote from macawake
    Thankfully mistakes as serious as amputating the wrong limb are extremely rare. I found one case in the past ten years (countrywide) and I looked in the database with all reported healthcare related incidents and the conclusions of the investigations. It wasn't really a case of amputating the wrong limb, but rather that of a misdiagnosis/delayed diagnosis that allowed the underlying disease process progress until amputation was the only available option. (The hospital would of course file a complaint against itself when something like this happens and the patient can also report). I'm not claiming that mistakes don't happen, because they definitely do but most don't have catastrophic consequences.

    I don't know how much you know about the Scandinavian countries? We have an extensive social safety net in place. First of all, we have universal healthcare so your hypothetical double amputee would get the medical care he needs (medications, prosthetics, physiotherapy, psychological counselling, the necessary remodelling and equipment to make his home suitable for his condition and whatever else he might need). Transportation if he needs it (special taxi service for people who need it due to disease or physical disabilities). If he could no longer work at his previous job he would get retraining/a degree free of charge and of course also receive pay during the time he went to school. If he could only work for example 4 hours per day, he'd get paid for that from his employer and the remaining 4 hours would be sick pay (until reitirement age). If he for some reason was no longer able to work at all, he'd get sick pay until retirement age (65) or something called early retirement pay and then at 65 regular retirement pay.

    All people who are employed also have insurance through their employer or union which will also pay you a lump sum if you are injured and/or lose parts of your bodily "functions".

    Of course we acknowledge suffering and realize the importance of quality of life, but from my own experience (I've spent a couple of years in the U.S. and lived in about a dozen countries in my life) our societies are different in many aspects. We have a different attitude in some ways. We're not as "punitive-minded" and are basically focused on making the best of a crappy situation (which becoming a double amputee due to a medical error would certainly qualify as) for the individual who was the victim of the mistake. The focus of the hospital/facility where the mistake happened is to learn from the incident and actively work to prevent the same thing from happening again.

    Hope that answers your questions
    Yes, it does and I feel reassured. The US is definitely NOT like this. That is, the retraining for work you mention is hard to come by unless the pt or his advocate goes to bat for him. I guess he could get retrained and special ride service, etc. But you have to ask for it, beg for it, hunt it down. Unless one is extremely fortunate and has the best Case Manager/Social Worker on the planet, one is really out of luck. Could become homeless. That's why a pt who's been the subject of a grievious error will sue. He's going to need money to live. Even just getting an orthotic/prosthetic/therapy, etc. is a battle all the way. Even for veterans who've been wounded in war it is a terrible battle to get the care they need.

    Thanks for sharing. How in the world do countries like those in Scandinavia afford to be so humane and be proactive about it?

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    Quote from klone
    I don't know what "ATC" is, but yes, it's normal to still need narcotic pain relievers 3 days post-op from a C/S. Women are typically sent home with an Rx for an additional week's worth of narcotics. She just had open abdominal surgery, and not only that, she is doing something every 1-3 hours that is causing her uterus, which was just sliced open, to painfully contract. And women, in spite of just having had major surgery, are still expected to tend their child(ren), get up several times a day to pick up their baby, change diapers, make a bottle if not breastfeeding, etc.

    I can't think of any other type of major surgery where the patient is expected to pretty much just go back to their normal active lives 3 days later.
    It's called misogyny I think.

    I couldn't agree more that CS pts should NOT be expected to care for their baby right away. Even NSVD moms are in pain. In the US, we need for women who have recently delivered to get more rest. Some people in the Hispanic cultures observe "cuarenta dias" - a period of 40 days during which Mom rests. She does absolutely minimal care of anything or anyone besides herself and the baby. Her mother or other female relatives tend to her, to the newborn, and to the household and the rest of her family and other obligations, giving her time to recover from L & D and from being sliced open surgically in the case of a CS.

    Unfortunately, some people don't have many relatives to help, I guess, but that would be a tremendous custom to adopt.

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    l1234567, Purple_roses, Ruas61, and 1 other like this.

    Quote from meanmaryjean
    I'm wondering why it took her five years to file the suit.
    It might not have. Maybe she filed some time ago and we're just now hearing about it. Seems the statutes of limitations to file would have been only 1 - 3 years in US. Don't know for sure.

    I feel so badly for all involved.

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    Kitiger likes this.

    Quote from macawake
    Losing a child is such an unimaginable tragedy and my heart goes out to any parent who has had to experience such a devastating loss.

    I can definitely understand suing if you want to have someone accept responsibility/accountability and to acknowledge wrongdoing (if it took place) and I can also understand wanting to be compensated for the of cost bereavement counselling, loss of wages due to being unable to work during a period of time and for other necessary care/support that follows in the wake of such a tragedy. However seeing that someone is suing for almost double-digit millions (which is an insane amount of money) makes me glad that I live and work in a country where healthcare professionals aren't sued. Here, a patient can definitely report licensed healthcare professionals to the licensing and oversight authority but you can't sue or be sued for zillions.

    I can't help it, when I hear of cases similar to this one, the large amount of money makes it seem slightly mercenary to me. You can't assign a dollar value to a human life and attempting to do so in fact has the opposite effect on me. To me, it devalues life when it's viewed in terms of a windfall.

    What makes it even more unappealing to me is that if I understand this correctly, a rather large percentage of a potential settlement goes to the lawyers? If I got that part right, it serves as a powerful incentive to file even more big $ law suits (compared to if the legal team were paid a more modest fixed fee).

    On a societal scale, the prevalence of law suits in the healthcare industry is bound to ultimately increase the cost of healthcare. I think it's quite unfortunate. Frankly, I think it's a sick system.
    If she wins, the losers will appeal. Whatever she is awarded will be knocked down significantly on appeal.

    If a surgeon cuts off the wrong leg and then must also remove the good one, when nurses or other staff are negligent, what happens to their victims in your country? How will the now bilateral amputee get the care and equipment he needs? Do you folks not acknowledge pain and suffering or diminished quality of life? Not criticizing, just asking. Thanks.

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    Quote from That Guy
    didn't need money until now.
    Really, man, what a terrible thing to say. You know nothing about her money situation, you apparently have never lost a child. What would you do - thank the nurse?

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    Quote from FolksBtrippin
    You also have a right not to be sexually assaulted by this patient. I don't care how demented he is, he cannot be permitted to sexually assault female residents and staff. It seems that some people have forgotten that staff also have a right to be free from sexual assault.

    I am disappointed in those who say you will lose your job if you report this behavior. Have you made repeated written complaints up the chain of command? A written complaint is taken more seriously. If you have already done that, then you need to report this to the regulating authorities. You are protected under federal law from being punished by your facility for reporting safety concerns. Check this website

    Call OSHA, number is on the website.

    Good luck
    I do not disagree that the OP should formally complain. But do not kid yourself about the possibility of OP being fired. The boss can fire a worker for any reason, any time.

    While I think staff SHOULD certainly have a right to not be assaulted, I don't know if that's a right staff give up while on the job. Yes, that remark sounds dumb, but I am really not legally sure what rights are curtailed or removed when one accepts employment.

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    brownbook and poppycat like this.

    Working in the pitch black with just a flashlight in ICU - wow. Amazing there aren't more mishaps than there already are. I believe in parents
    being with their kids but that's going too far.

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    Quote from Racer15
    Our fast track is one visitor per pt. Main ED is two visitors per pt. Security issues the passes but it's hard to keep track of since our passes are just a piece of paper with no real system in place. I am probably part of the problem as I do not care about how many family members are in the room as long as I can do my job. But I've also been there. My nephew was life flighted to an ER four hours away, they only allowed my sister and one other family member at a time in the room. I went nuts, my mom and I got kind of aggressive with each other over who should have been with him, I was the ER nurse that cared for him prior to transport, but my sister ultimately wanted her mom. I was completely irrational at that point and very agitated, as I was the only one with any kind of medical background, but I was not allowed in the room. I feel like visitor policies should be case by case.
    I hope your nephew is doing well, Racer15.

    It makes it hard on your coworkers who do need to limit visitors if you aren't limiting them, too.

    I have recently concluded that, somehow, other docs and nurses don't really need my help to do their jobs. But that is quite a recent conclusion and I do understand where you are coming from.