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    Do everything by the book. Follow all rules, policies, and procedures. Obey. Submit. Keep job, get paid. Be quiet and polite. Do not be a rogue or try to make your own rules.

    Best of luck to you.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from kidzcare
    I know our beliefs differ and I love you too!

    I hope you are equally outspoken about those who openly violate what is against the flag code (laying the flag flat, say across a sports field, using the flag as or on clothing, using the flag in advertising of any products) and the lawmakers that disrespect our veterans by voting against policies that ensure their access to mental health care.
    Yet there is money for every former First Lady to have taxpayer-paid staff. Not only Secret Service but secretaries. Michelle Obama has 6 of them, I hear. She probably should pay for them herself. Especially at a time when there are homeless people and mentally ill people and lots and lots of people who could use a hand up. This wealthy woman probably doesn't need even 1 secretary. What the devil do they do all day every day? All of the formers - Bushes, Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, Carters, whoever living that I left out - are already wealthy and could easily afford to hire their own help, just as Blondy could afford his own travel and security for his relaxing weekend jaunts. I want him rested and refreshed but it's too dang expensive for a populace to support these "royalty" like we do when so many others are suffering.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from OldDude
    This is probably gonna be long so I under stand if you pass it over. I'm not intending on offering a political opinion so please don't read that into it if you choose to go on.

    Everyone who has kids understands this...few things scare me. I'm afraid of snakes; I hate snakes - snakes scare me (coincidentally as I was typing this a report came over the radio of a snake in one of our classrooms. I responded, it was a little non-poisonous snake, and I took it back outside - but I didn't like it). The other thing that scares me is the inability to protect my children as they've progressed to being out of my reach and my sight and are available to become carnage resulting from the action of some satan reincarnate with a gun, machete, vehicle, bomb, or some other mechanism used in a manner to purposefully kill others.

    Frankly, I think the fringes of our society have deteriorated to the degree that these hideous acts can not be prevented and will continue until "we the people" reel in our "tolerance" atmosphere and go back to enforcing acceptable behavior in a public place. I believe the genesis of today's violence is a product of progressively allowing a couple of generations of individuals to violate the public "peace" laws and mores with no accountability or consequences. For instance, nowadays, if a parent stands in the front office of a public school and continually drops the "F" bomb and "F" this and "F" that, their action is met with meekness, and apologies, and pleases to quiet them down and satisfy their complaint; out of fear of retribution, further complaints to higher administration, or whatever else lame reason. So what is the result? Incentive for the bad actor to repeat the behavior and, with human nature being what is, the repeat performance will likely escalate. What should occur in a situation I've described is the person acting out in a public should be hauled to jail and charged with disorderly conduct; a law which is on the books in every state in the union. A law written and enacted by those voted into office to represent "we the people," i.e., the opinion of how society should act in public.

    I believe this lack of enforcement of societal rules over time has tentacles that creep outward and take hold and simmer with those who have a propensity to be a bad actor. Those who have had life slap them in the face for the multitudes of possibilities. Those who face little or no possibilities of obtaining mental or emotional health intervention (but the lack of mental health services now is a different rant). The results of continuing to allow unchecked violations of the "public peace" and tolerance and excuse making for public displays of outright vulgarity and societal degradation has grown like a deadly virus and is manifesting in the inhumane behavior we are now seeing.

    Laws won't fix this because we already have laws in place that address each and every bad or evil commission deemed unacceptable by society. Only "we the people" can fix this by returning to the public climate where it is NOT acceptable to use vulgar language and gestures and unacceptable actions in a public place and those who do must be punished and responsible for their actions. Then and only then can, (with the assistance of some REAL mental health revision) over a couple generations, we remold the respect people deserve from each other and how to address objections in a civil and objective manner.

    I read this morning that no kids died over there in California yesterday - 2 sadly received gunshot wounds but will recover; undoubtedly due to quick thinking by school personnel to lock down the building. Praise be to GOD. Other innocents were murdered...praying for God to give those left behind the strength for tomorrow. Just as those murdered at church 100 miles up the road a couple Sundays ago.

    OK, if you made it through, thank you for listening. I feel blessed to be able to take part in such a forum for GOOD as is here with you wonderful people. And BTW, it's Far's fault for starting the thread...thank you Farawyn for reminding us of the deadly reality that lurks out there. Keep your heads up and looking everyone.
    I couldn't agree more.
    I see this current state of affairs much as you do, the result of the moral decay of America. From Al Franken to this Moore fellow in Texas, from the President himself to Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby, Wiener, Bush, Clinton, and all the rest we see wickedness in high places.
    When the Prez pardons the arrogant and mean-spirited, minority-hating, Judge-disrespecting Sheriff Joe Arpaio before the guy is even sentenced, there is something very wrong. Just as wrong is not upholding the laws from the very start, decades ago regarding illegal immigrants. And don't think I don't feel for them and for refugees fleeing war and terror. I do. But we either have laws or we don't.

    What's wrong is spiritual - a lack of strong religious values that people in power as well as people who are more ordinary everyday people live by.
    We have to hold ourselves and each other accountable. We need God (Jesus for me) in our lives, a God we really honor and obey and worship. That will help us rebuild our beloved country. Alas, if you believe Bible prophecy the way it is usually interpreted, it's pretty much too late. That doesn't mean we should quit trying.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from OldDude
    This is probably gonna be long so I under stand if you pass it over. I'm not intending on offering a political opinion so please don't read that into it if you choose to go on.

    Everyone who has kids understands this...few things scare me. I'm afraid of snakes; I hate snakes - snakes scare me (coincidentally as I was typing this a report came over the radio of a snake in one of our classrooms. I responded, it was a little non-poisonous snake, and I took it back outside - but I didn't like it). The other thing that scares me is the inability to protect my children as they've progressed to being out of my reach and my sight and are available to become carnage resulting from the action of some satan reincarnate with a gun, machete, vehicle, bomb, or some other mechanism used in a manner to purposefully kill others.

    Frankly, I think the fringes of our society have deteriorated to the degree that these hideous acts can not be prevented and will continue until "we the people" reel in our "tolerance" atmosphere and go back to enforcing acceptable behavior in a public place. I believe the genesis of today's violence is a product of progressively allowing a couple of generations of individuals to violate the public "peace" laws and mores with no accountability or consequences. For instance, nowadays, if a parent stands in the front office of a public school and continually drops the "F" bomb and "F" this and "F" that, their action is met with meekness, and apologies, and pleases to quiet them down and satisfy their complaint; out of fear of retribution, further complaints to higher administration, or whatever else lame reason. So what is the result? Incentive for the bad actor to repeat the behavior and, with human nature being what is, the repeat performance will likely escalate. What should occur in a situation I've described is the person acting out in a public should be hauled to jail and charged with disorderly conduct; a law which is on the books in every state in the union. A law written and enacted by those voted into office to represent "we the people," i.e., the opinion of how society should act in public.

    I believe this lack of enforcement of societal rules over time has tentacles that creep outward and take hold and simmer with those who have a propensity to be a bad actor. Those who have had life slap them in the face for the multitudes of possibilities. Those who face little or no possibilities of obtaining mental or emotional health intervention (but the lack of mental health services now is a different rant). The results of continuing to allow unchecked violations of the "public peace" and tolerance and excuse making for public displays of outright vulgarity and societal degradation has grown like a deadly virus and is manifesting in the inhumane behavior we are now seeing.

    Laws won't fix this because we already have laws in place that address each and every bad or evil commission deemed unacceptable by society. Only "we the people" can fix this by returning to the public climate where it is NOT acceptable to use vulgar language and gestures and unacceptable actions in a public place and those who do must be punished and responsible for their actions. Then and only then can, (with the assistance of some REAL mental health revision) over a couple generations, we remold the respect people deserve from each other and how to address objections in a civil and objective manner.

    I read this morning that no kids died over there in California yesterday - 2 sadly received gunshot wounds but will recover; undoubtedly due to quick thinking by school personnel to lock down the building. Praise be to GOD. Other innocents were murdered...praying for God to give those left behind the strength for tomorrow. Just as those murdered at church 100 miles up the road a couple Sundays ago.

    OK, if you made it through, thank you for listening. I feel blessed to be able to take part in such a forum for GOOD as is here with you wonderful people. And BTW, it's Far's fault for starting the thread...thank you Farawyn for reminding us of the deadly reality that lurks out there. Keep your heads up and looking everyone.
    I couldn't agree more.
    I see this current state of affairs much as you do, the result of the moral decay of America. From Al Franken to this Moore fellow in Texas, from the President himself to Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby, Wiener, Bush, Clinton, and all the rest we see wickedness in high places.
    When the Prez pardons the arrogant and mean-spirited, minority-hating, Judge-disrespecting Sheriff Joe Arpaio before the guy is even sentenced, there is something very wrong. Just as wrong is not upholding the laws from the very start, decades ago regarding illegal immigrants. And don't think I don't feel for them and for refugees fleeing war and terror. I do. But we either have laws or we don't.

    What's wrong is spiritual - a lack of strong religious values that people in power as well as people who are more ordinary everyday people live by.
    We have to hold ourselves and each other accountable. We need God (Jesus for me) in our lives, a God we really honor and obey and worship. That will help us rebuild our beloved country. Alas, if you believe Bible prophecy the way it is usually interpreted, it's pretty much too late. That doesn't mean we should quit trying.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from kidzcare
    I know our beliefs differ and I love you too!

    I hope you are equally outspoken about those who openly violate what is against the flag code (laying the flag flat, say across a sports field, using the flag as or on clothing, using the flag in advertising of any products) and the lawmakers that disrespect our veterans by voting against policies that ensure their access to mental health care.
    Yet there is money for every former First Lady to have taxpayer-paid staff. Not only Secret Service but secretaries. Michelle Obama has 6 of them, I hear. She probably should pay for them herself. Especially at a time when there are homeless people and mentally ill people and lots and lots of people who could use a hand up. This wealthy woman probably doesn't need even 1 secretary. What the devil do they do all day every day? All of the formers - Bushes, Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, Carters, whoever living that I left out - are already wealthy and could easily afford to hire their own help, just as Blondy could afford his own travel and security for his relaxing weekend jaunts. I want him rested and refreshed but it's too dang expensive for a populace to support these "royalty" like we do when so many others are suffering.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from seaofclouds21
    I agree with Scottishape. If I wanted/needed to speak with someone, I would seek someone outside of my employer (preferably in a different health care system).
    Of course, the employer can see your medical records since it is paying for your insurance, if yo use
    employer-paid insurance.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from pixierose
    As a second career nurse, I can tell you it happens across fields.

    It truly depends on management. We have a woman on my floor who gets out of working most major holidays because she "has a 2 year old and another on the way." I now have to work Thanksgiving Day, Xmas, and NYD because my NM lets her do this (squeaky wheel and all). In total, I've worked 5/6 of the hospital's recognized holidays yet she has only worked 1/6.

    But it has nothing to do with nursing, or parents really. The rest of us who have kids don't do this, just her. It's our NM's weak spot.
    Have you tried being the squeaky wheel? Your boss likely thinks you don't mind working every holiday if you haven't told her.

    Who cares about the 2 kids and another on the way? I certainly don't. That's her choice and she can darned well learn to deal with it in this adult world. Tubal. Hyster. Babysitter. Celebrate holidays another day, as nurses, cops, others who have to work holidays have done from time immemorial. She really sounds like a weasel. If I were her boss, she would not get away with that. And if she called off on her holidays to work, I'd find a reason to fire her or get her to quit. Fair is fair.

  • Nov 20

    Quote from LovingLife123
    You know, I've heard this a lot over my lifetime. It gets a little aggravating. I'm so glad I work on a unit where they expect you to put your family over your job. I have never once though asked for special treatment and I don't know of any mom that has.

    Yes, my kids come first. That's a given. I've been given the responsibility of raising tiny, human beings into full fledged adults capable of living in society. It's a pretty big responsibility.

    What I don't understand about your post is, you say they get to go home first after a shift? How does that work? Don't they have their patients and you have yours? Don't you just stay until your charting is done? How is any other nurse supposed to stay for that? At 1900, I give report on my patients and then any incomplete charting gets finished and I go home. The same with everyone else. Yes, sometimes I get out ahead of the single people.

    We take turns on who goes home early if census is low. I don't necessarily like it as it cuts into my precious PTO time I save to spend with my kids. The only time I have ever volunteered is when I don't feel well and I was not picked. I also like my money too much. You see, with kids, I have bills to pay. They are expensive. Clothes, shoes, medical care, food, electricity, water, school supplies, toys. My older son's shoes cost $150 a pair right now. His jeans, $60 a pair. Extracurricular activities cost me about $400 just for basketball leagues this fall. So I kind of need to work. Probably more than the single people.

    I think your post is way off base. If you don't like the way your unit treats "single" people, find a new job.
    How about the job just realize that they need to be fair to all staff? Why should she have to start over somewhere else if she likes her job?

    You do not have to pay that much for jeans or shoes. Ever hear of Goodwill? Your son does not have to be in BB league. Or maybe he could work a small job and pay some of his own costs? And an apple in his Christmas stocking is enough. No trip to Norway on the Princess line is needed.

    Your need to work is not more important than a single person's. You chose to have kids, I assume.

  • Nov 19

    Quote from kidzcare
    I know our beliefs differ and I love you too!

    I hope you are equally outspoken about those who openly violate what is against the flag code (laying the flag flat, say across a sports field, using the flag as or on clothing, using the flag in advertising of any products) and the lawmakers that disrespect our veterans by voting against policies that ensure their access to mental health care.
    Yet there is money for every former First Lady to have taxpayer-paid staff. Not only Secret Service but secretaries. Michelle Obama has 6 of them, I hear. She probably should pay for them herself. Especially at a time when there are homeless people and mentally ill people and lots and lots of people who could use a hand up. This wealthy woman probably doesn't need even 1 secretary. What the devil do they do all day every day? All of the formers - Bushes, Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, Carters, whoever living that I left out - are already wealthy and could easily afford to hire their own help, just as Blondy could afford his own travel and security for his relaxing weekend jaunts. I want him rested and refreshed but it's too dang expensive for a populace to support these "royalty" like we do when so many others are suffering.

  • Nov 19

    Quote from OldDude
    This is probably gonna be long so I under stand if you pass it over. I'm not intending on offering a political opinion so please don't read that into it if you choose to go on.

    Everyone who has kids understands this...few things scare me. I'm afraid of snakes; I hate snakes - snakes scare me (coincidentally as I was typing this a report came over the radio of a snake in one of our classrooms. I responded, it was a little non-poisonous snake, and I took it back outside - but I didn't like it). The other thing that scares me is the inability to protect my children as they've progressed to being out of my reach and my sight and are available to become carnage resulting from the action of some satan reincarnate with a gun, machete, vehicle, bomb, or some other mechanism used in a manner to purposefully kill others.

    Frankly, I think the fringes of our society have deteriorated to the degree that these hideous acts can not be prevented and will continue until "we the people" reel in our "tolerance" atmosphere and go back to enforcing acceptable behavior in a public place. I believe the genesis of today's violence is a product of progressively allowing a couple of generations of individuals to violate the public "peace" laws and mores with no accountability or consequences. For instance, nowadays, if a parent stands in the front office of a public school and continually drops the "F" bomb and "F" this and "F" that, their action is met with meekness, and apologies, and pleases to quiet them down and satisfy their complaint; out of fear of retribution, further complaints to higher administration, or whatever else lame reason. So what is the result? Incentive for the bad actor to repeat the behavior and, with human nature being what is, the repeat performance will likely escalate. What should occur in a situation I've described is the person acting out in a public should be hauled to jail and charged with disorderly conduct; a law which is on the books in every state in the union. A law written and enacted by those voted into office to represent "we the people," i.e., the opinion of how society should act in public.

    I believe this lack of enforcement of societal rules over time has tentacles that creep outward and take hold and simmer with those who have a propensity to be a bad actor. Those who have had life slap them in the face for the multitudes of possibilities. Those who face little or no possibilities of obtaining mental or emotional health intervention (but the lack of mental health services now is a different rant). The results of continuing to allow unchecked violations of the "public peace" and tolerance and excuse making for public displays of outright vulgarity and societal degradation has grown like a deadly virus and is manifesting in the inhumane behavior we are now seeing.

    Laws won't fix this because we already have laws in place that address each and every bad or evil commission deemed unacceptable by society. Only "we the people" can fix this by returning to the public climate where it is NOT acceptable to use vulgar language and gestures and unacceptable actions in a public place and those who do must be punished and responsible for their actions. Then and only then can, (with the assistance of some REAL mental health revision) over a couple generations, we remold the respect people deserve from each other and how to address objections in a civil and objective manner.

    I read this morning that no kids died over there in California yesterday - 2 sadly received gunshot wounds but will recover; undoubtedly due to quick thinking by school personnel to lock down the building. Praise be to GOD. Other innocents were murdered...praying for God to give those left behind the strength for tomorrow. Just as those murdered at church 100 miles up the road a couple Sundays ago.

    OK, if you made it through, thank you for listening. I feel blessed to be able to take part in such a forum for GOOD as is here with you wonderful people. And BTW, it's Far's fault for starting the thread...thank you Farawyn for reminding us of the deadly reality that lurks out there. Keep your heads up and looking everyone.
    I couldn't agree more.
    I see this current state of affairs much as you do, the result of the moral decay of America. From Al Franken to this Moore fellow in Texas, from the President himself to Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby, Wiener, Bush, Clinton, and all the rest we see wickedness in high places.
    When the Prez pardons the arrogant and mean-spirited, minority-hating, Judge-disrespecting Sheriff Joe Arpaio before the guy is even sentenced, there is something very wrong. Just as wrong is not upholding the laws from the very start, decades ago regarding illegal immigrants. And don't think I don't feel for them and for refugees fleeing war and terror. I do. But we either have laws or we don't.

    What's wrong is spiritual - a lack of strong religious values that people in power as well as people who are more ordinary everyday people live by.
    We have to hold ourselves and each other accountable. We need God (Jesus for me) in our lives, a God we really honor and obey and worship. That will help us rebuild our beloved country. Alas, if you believe Bible prophecy the way it is usually interpreted, it's pretty much too late. That doesn't mean we should quit trying.

  • Nov 19

    Quote from CMA-RN29
    Thank you, my work is not cool about this and I feel awful. They make it seem like it has never been done before.
    They have all made errors, trust me. They are just making you feel rotten so that you will feel so badly that you might very well never make another error in your whole career.

    Those who don't make errors are working in an area where they don't give meds.

    Don't keep bringing it up, don't tell the whole staff. Just learn from it and carry on.

  • Nov 19

    Quote from CMA-RN29
    Thank you, my work is not cool about this and I feel awful. They make it seem like it has never been done before.
    They have all made errors, trust me. They are just making you feel rotten so that you will feel so badly that you might very well never make another error in your whole career.

    Those who don't make errors are working in an area where they don't give meds.

    Don't keep bringing it up, don't tell the whole staff. Just learn from it and carry on.

  • Nov 16

    My first thought was "When did the guard finish Med School?" .

    After reading the other replies, I guess I understand that it's more an issue of the guard fearing the prisoner is getting spoiled or is acquiring something that could be used as a weapon or to trade with another prisoner when he returns to prison.

    At least this guard was being attentive, not just sleeping or reading or goofing off on her phone.

    I say let the supervisors figure it out and they can then make a policy so the nurses don't have to deal with this type of thing.

  • Nov 16

    Your director needs an enema.

  • Nov 16

    My first thought was "When did the guard finish Med School?" .

    After reading the other replies, I guess I understand that it's more an issue of the guard fearing the prisoner is getting spoiled or is acquiring something that could be used as a weapon or to trade with another prisoner when he returns to prison.

    At least this guard was being attentive, not just sleeping or reading or goofing off on her phone.

    I say let the supervisors figure it out and they can then make a policy so the nurses don't have to deal with this type of thing.


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