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  • 2:24 pm

    Quote from ChrissyCasualty
    The part I'm stuck on is where you stated that you saw he was slipping out of bed, went and got two people, came back and he was on the floor.

    Yea...your director made a dick move. But did you really leave a confused and combative patient with restraint orders by themselves?!
    Read her reason why. She feared for her safety, which is why she got help.

  • 1:32 pm

    Quote from Neats
    I really like the comments found in this thred and know if I really get sick I am in good hands with the decision I make for my healthcare delivery.

    I am over age 50 and have a DNR for a variety of reasons, the main reason is quality of life. I know myself and know I would not be happy confined to a bed, I would not be happy if another person had to clean me after I go to the bathroom, and I would not be happy if my children had to take time from their families to take care of me in such a way that it takes longer than 5 hours per MONTH. These are my baselines for making hard decisions about how I want my life to be as I age. As a LNHA, as a RN, as a breast cancer survivor, and as a German Jew, and spouse of an older man (in great shape and active and working full time).
    I do not want to be a burden not only on my children but society. To me it makes no sense attempting to give me another 2 years to be alive stuck to some chemotherapy regime verses the 6 months I will have to be free and say goodbye in my own way, to travel, or to get items off my bucket list.
    I think each person has their own path to take however I see again and again we spend more monies in a person last 2 years of life then the person did before they became ill. I do not want that for me.

    If you see me in a hospital bed intubated, having to clean me up after a BM, know I will never be the same and will always need ADL assistance (with bathroom clean up), if you know I am NEATS from allnurses... be an advocate for me...please. If I have Alzheimer's and in a locked unit and know it is me from allnurses then well....give me a medical bag for I will probably try to get out of the building to go to work... I have things to do, people to see, and travel in my own locked mind!

    Life decisions are difficult and best left up to the individual. We do need to be more proactive and have life discussions maybe then it will not be treated much like mental health...taboo, and stigmas. Remember to be an advocate for your patient and their wishes.
    Just curious - what is an LNHA and why does being a German Jew influence your view?

    Yes, I will advocate for your wishes if we ever meet, NEATS. God bless you.

  • 1:32 pm

    Quote from Coffee Nurse
    Agree with PPs that quality of life is much more important than age, although I'm surprised that so many are choosing 70 as a cutoff. IIRC that's not even considered "extreme old" or whatever anymore. Three of my grandparents lived/have lived into their mid 90s and up until recently were doing well, living independently, etc.

    OT: OP, you have an ICU with babies and 90 year olds? What kind of place is that?
    They're choosing 70 because they're nowhere it, LOL.

    OP - it's not the age, it's a person's condition/health status. I recall a pt who was only 16 or 17. She had attempted suicide but someone found her in time to call 911 and she was saved. Saved to a persistent vegetative state. to a lifetime of 24/7 care in a nursing home. Colostomy, trach, feeding tube,
    total care. Was she in pain? Was she aware of her surroundings? In some ways, it seemed she was - she seemed to enjoy it when pets, dogs visited and she seemed to know her Mom's voice. It was hell on
    me because I thought Mom was being unrealistic to keep her a full code, but realized how hard it would
    be on a parent to decide otherwise, especially if she felt guilty about the daughter's actions and status.
    All I could do was pray privately for this family and give good care.

    It's a mess, that's for sure.

    But to answer your question - it's not the age, it's the condition. Of course, I believe in Heaven, so death
    isn't as scary as it might be if I didn't.

  • 12:37 pm

    Pain Management New Orthopedist

    Your current doctor is evil, lazy, and cowardly for letting you suffer because he is scared of the DEA.
    Doesn't he know there are exceptions for people with real pain?

    You need to speak up to your representatives in state and federal Congress.
    They need to know they are causing you to suffer. So do the pharmaceutical houses, who can override
    the doctors' prescriptions. It's a dark day for people in pain.

    Make a video, take pictures, see the reps in person and show them your knee, your soaked sock and shoe,
    the fact that you are retired early because of this problem, even though you'd prefer to be a functioning,
    contributing wage-earner instead of, I assume, disabled.

    This just makes me so angry. Situations like yours were predictable. All because of some drug-abusing
    vermin, spineless doctors, overbearing pharmaceutical houses, and congressional representatives who
    have not heard from and actually seen enough people in agonizing pain.

    In your case, maybe the best route is to consider removal of the prosthetic knee?

    I wish you the best of luck.

    Can you go to Canada? Mexico? Germany? Are laws there any better?

  • 9:31 am

    Quote from jenvankempen
    Baby named Shithead. Pronounced chi-theed.
    Parents Dirtbag and Jerk?

  • 8:01 am

    Quote from TriciaJ
    The above links are to news articles that use quotation marks with the word "nurses". I ran both names through Florida BON. This site actually links to a site for all licenses in the state of Florida. No record of any Allyson Thompson being licensed as anything. A Joanie Richelle Barrett is licensed as a massage therapist.

    So you're right, Sour Lemon. Neither one is a nurse. Can't stand how the public and the media assume anyone working in healthcare is a nurse.
    If they're military, they might not need a particular state license to practice in that state. Not sure. At any rate, they sure are some kind of stupid.

  • 7:47 am

    Quote from TriciaJ
    The above links are to news articles that use quotation marks with the word "nurses". I ran both names through Florida BON. This site actually links to a site for all licenses in the state of Florida. No record of any Allyson Thompson being licensed as anything. A Joanie Richelle Barrett is licensed as a massage therapist.

    So you're right, Sour Lemon. Neither one is a nurse. Can't stand how the public and the media assume anyone working in healthcare is a nurse.
    If they're military, they might not need a particular state license to practice in that state. Not sure. At any rate, they sure are some kind of stupid.

  • 7:00 am

    Quote from aprilmoss
    I've been on both sides of this being both the School Nurse and the mother of a diabetic student. I'm sorry but I have to side with the parent. There are certain times when a child of reasonable competence should be able to carry and self-administer medication without bureaucratic interference. It took the threats of a 504 lawsuit to budge the bureaucracy in our student over my son carrying his insulin and meter. It's an abuse of the student's right under IDEA and ADA and it's medically unsound and dangerous to the child.
    The least the parent can do is get you the written orders. Very rude and disrespectful to do do so.

  • 6:45 am

    Quote from aprilmoss
    I've been on both sides of this being both the School Nurse and the mother of a diabetic student. I'm sorry but I have to side with the parent. There are certain times when a child of reasonable competence should be able to carry and self-administer medication without bureaucratic interference. It took the threats of a 504 lawsuit to budge the bureaucracy in our student over my son carrying his insulin and meter. It's an abuse of the student's right under IDEA and ADA and it's medically unsound and dangerous to the child.
    The least the parent can do is get you the written orders. Very rude and disrespectful to do do so.

  • 1:02 am

    Quote from GdBSN
    ^^^Yes!^^^ If this student has had this condition since 1st grade, why did Mom not have the proper paper work completed in the clinic. Parents get lazy and don't do what they are supposed to, and then want to blame someone when something happens. Our policy clearly states, that a student is not to have an inhaler at school unless proper documentation has been submitted. Not to say, I would not let them use there inhaler if they were having an asthma attack and address the paperwork issue with parents when they came to pick them up. Technically, I could probably lose my job for letting them use the inhaler, but I guess I would take that chance if the attack was severe enough.
    And a nurse should not have to work under those conditions. Parents need to get the paperwork to nurses or come give the inhaler themselves or 911 should be called. Of course, will anyone back up the poor nurse?

  • Sep 19

    Quote from aprilmoss
    I've been on both sides of this being both the School Nurse and the mother of a diabetic student. I'm sorry but I have to side with the parent. There are certain times when a child of reasonable competence should be able to carry and self-administer medication without bureaucratic interference. It took the threats of a 504 lawsuit to budge the bureaucracy in our student over my son carrying his insulin and meter. It's an abuse of the student's right under IDEA and ADA and it's medically unsound and dangerous to the child.
    The least the parent can do is get you the written orders. Very rude and disrespectful to do do so.

  • Sep 19

    Quote from GdBSN
    ^^^Yes!^^^ If this student has had this condition since 1st grade, why did Mom not have the proper paper work completed in the clinic. Parents get lazy and don't do what they are supposed to, and then want to blame someone when something happens. Our policy clearly states, that a student is not to have an inhaler at school unless proper documentation has been submitted. Not to say, I would not let them use there inhaler if they were having an asthma attack and address the paperwork issue with parents when they came to pick them up. Technically, I could probably lose my job for letting them use the inhaler, but I guess I would take that chance if the attack was severe enough.
    And a nurse should not have to work under those conditions. Parents need to get the paperwork to nurses or come give the inhaler themselves or 911 should be called. Of course, will anyone back up the poor nurse?

  • Sep 19

    Quote from ChrissyCasualty
    The part I'm stuck on is where you stated that you saw he was slipping out of bed, went and got two people, came back and he was on the floor.

    Yea...your director made a dick move. But did you really leave a confused and combative patient with restraint orders by themselves?!
    Read her reason why. She feared for her safety, which is why she got help.

  • Sep 19

    Quote from dstee009
    If you are a HEALTH CARE worker then you know the dangers going in. Do what you want but you are not very good at your job if you want to flee when there could be danger. We are there to help those in need, imo, you are selfish and need not be in health care if your first instinct isnt to stay. get your family out or bring them to the hospital with you. People like OP are in it for the money, plain and simple. If you truly care about what you do as an RN, Dr. etc. then you wouldnt be TRYING to run. you would be trying to stay. I say all this as someone that sent my wife north a few days ago and without hesitation stayed to work through the storm here in Florida. if the medical field in the worst of times isnt for you, then you need to find another career.
    Dude, you don't know why OP is in Nursing. If she's competent and decent to patients and coworkers, that's about all that's needed. She doesn't have to be totally gung ho like you. Her priority is keeping her little lad safe and hoping her cop husband comes home after each shift. That's more than enough strain for anyone.

    Parents need to protect their children. She should have planned better, but you don't know her whole situation.

    Thank you for your bravery and heroism. Don't demand it of everyone, though. There might come a time when you are older or not in the best of health or there could arise some other reason that limits your enthusiasm and ability to rise to the occasion of something like a Cat 5 hurricane.

  • Sep 19

    As a student, I thought I had every disease we studied.

    That is not to put you down in any way. If you think you should see a doctor, please do that.
    I wouldn't advise reporting anything, especially without a valid diagnosis.

    Please get any care you think you need.


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