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  • Jan 19

    786wsuyxh

    Quote from caliotter3
    Since the patient brought it to your attention I would write an incident report and give it to management as well as providing the appropriate care and documenting truthfully.
    I think she should get the patient and family who witnessed it to call the boss. It really isn't a peer's job to counsel or investigate a peer. That is what Management gets paid for. I might make a note in the chart stating the patient's concern and state that I dialed Manager Smith's phone number and handed the phone to the patient and advised the patient to report same to said Manager. Patient reports Manager Smith said and did_____________.

  • Jan 19

    786wsuyxh

    Quote from caliotter3
    Since the patient brought it to your attention I would write an incident report and give it to management as well as providing the appropriate care and documenting truthfully.
    I think she should get the patient and family who witnessed it to call the boss. It really isn't a peer's job to counsel or investigate a peer. That is what Management gets paid for. I might make a note in the chart stating the patient's concern and state that I dialed Manager Smith's phone number and handed the phone to the patient and advised the patient to report same to said Manager. Patient reports Manager Smith said and did_____________.

  • Jan 18

    Where is OP?

  • Jan 18

    Quote from freckles23
    Oh and mind you, the nursing supervisors and managers wont allow for an extra nurse. They said it would never happen. I guess this is upper management's doing. They are sipping on their champagne sleeping like a baby while me and my coworkers put our blood sweat and tears in our job and dont even get acknowledged during the holidays or anything with a nice meal or holiday party or just little things of appreciation. Makes me feel useless and like I bust my butt for nothing. I feel like we are just maintaining the patient care on the shift making sure everyone makes it alive and give meds, thats it. No quality time, performing treatments, doing what you want to do but not having the means to do it given the circumstance
    Call State back and this time do make sure to give them the true story.

  • Jan 17

    Quote from Emergent
    I'm wondering what your plans are for after school? Most jobs involve working on holidays. And, even the more orthodox sects and denominations make exceptions for necessary work.
    I have worked with Orthodox Jews who did not work Friday sundown through Saturday sundown. They made up for this by working every Sunday. Until someone complained that they never worked a full weekend. Then what resulted was up to the individual manager, I suppose. One manager offered the person complaining to be off every Sunday in exchange for working every Saturday. Said offer was refused, LOL. There are also, as you said, ways for school or work to be deemed kosher (LOL) when absolutely required.

    So, OP, check with your religious leader to see about either standing up for you by communicating with your professor, or get your leader to tell you how to go about meeting the requirements of your religious group and those of school.

    You really should think through what you will do in the future if school or work absolutely requires that you must work on Good Friday, Resurrection Day, other high holy days. In a line of work where human lives are at stake, somebody does have to be on duty 24/7/365. Sometimes that will probably be you.

    No it isn't pleasant to have to make these adjustments and alterations in your life, but it's best to start thinking about having to do so. Best wishes.

  • Jan 17

    Quote from caliotter3
    I had jury duty and informed the instructor. He said for me to refuse the jury duty and take his final instead. My father died. My mother needed my presence immediately. I went home. My nursing instructors were accommodating except for the one who was the department head. He told me school was more important and that he should fail me in the course because I missed his midterm. You should have seen the looks on the faces of the office personnel as I left his office. He relented eventually, but not before I experienced the trauma of believing my nursing education was over. People are like that. They all think their priorities are the only priorities. The best you can do is to contact her again to find out the answer and then deal with that answer.
    I would report that department head to his superiors. A death in the immediate family puts you in a frame of mind not generally good for taking exams. I have never heard of anyone refusing an accommodation in such a circumstance. This schmo has no business treating students with such cruelty.

  • Jan 17

    Quote from Emergent
    I'm wondering what your plans are for after school? Most jobs involve working on holidays. And, even the more orthodox sects and denominations make exceptions for necessary work.
    I have worked with Orthodox Jews who did not work Friday sundown through Saturday sundown. They made up for this by working every Sunday. Until someone complained that they never worked a full weekend. Then what resulted was up to the individual manager, I suppose. One manager offered the person complaining to be off every Sunday in exchange for working every Saturday. Said offer was refused, LOL. There are also, as you said, ways for school or work to be deemed kosher (LOL) when absolutely required.

    So, OP, check with your religious leader to see about either standing up for you by communicating with your professor, or get your leader to tell you how to go about meeting the requirements of your religious group and those of school.

    You really should think through what you will do in the future if school or work absolutely requires that you must work on Good Friday, Resurrection Day, other high holy days. In a line of work where human lives are at stake, somebody does have to be on duty 24/7/365. Sometimes that will probably be you.

    No it isn't pleasant to have to make these adjustments and alterations in your life, but it's best to start thinking about having to do so. Best wishes.

  • Jan 17

    Quote from caliotter3
    I had jury duty and informed the instructor. He said for me to refuse the jury duty and take his final instead. My father died. My mother needed my presence immediately. I went home. My nursing instructors were accommodating except for the one who was the department head. He told me school was more important and that he should fail me in the course because I missed his midterm. You should have seen the looks on the faces of the office personnel as I left his office. He relented eventually, but not before I experienced the trauma of believing my nursing education was over. People are like that. They all think their priorities are the only priorities. The best you can do is to contact her again to find out the answer and then deal with that answer.
    I would report that department head to his superiors. A death in the immediate family puts you in a frame of mind not generally good for taking exams. I have never heard of anyone refusing an accommodation in such a circumstance. This schmo has no business treating students with such cruelty.

  • Jan 16

    Quote from pockunit
    "Delivery of the placenta will cure preeclampsia."

    No. It won't. But a few days of mag sulfate and several weeks of cardiac meds might.

    I CAN'T. HANDLE. that this is still taught. It's blatantly untrue, contrary to the evidence, and dangerous to promulgate. Yes, the placenta is an essential part of the disease process, but IT DOES NOT JUST GO AWAY THE MINUTE THIRD STAGE ENDS. GAH. Did no one watch Downton??

    Also, the lie that losing your license is only one med error away. And that nurses eat their young. Can we stop, please?
    IME, nurses do eat their young - a lot. Sorry.

  • Jan 15

    You should not co-sign for him if you don't know what's in the syringe. Also, don't sign for anything you don't actually watch being wasted. Just tell him what you have noticed and how often. He might come clean and even welcome the chance to get help after being busted.

  • Jan 15

    You should not co-sign for him if you don't know what's in the syringe. Also, don't sign for anything you don't actually watch being wasted. Just tell him what you have noticed and how often. He might come clean and even welcome the chance to get help after being busted.

  • Jan 15

    Quote from DeeAngel
    If you're nearly retired and don't know what critical thinking means god help us all.
    If you didn't want to help, you should have just cruised on by. It was not necessary to make a rude remark, based upon an incorrect assumption.

    And your prayers are answered - as it turns out, based upon the helpful answers of others here, I have been thinking critically without knowing it was called that.

    Be venomous elsewhere.


    Meow again, cat.

  • Jan 14

    Quote from mrsboots87
    And if that hat supervisor has already taken report for another unit, what then? If the supervisor refuses report and refuses the assignment, what then? In my LTC our supervisor do a lot. I don't k ow where you work that they sit around, but our supervisors do most admits, as well as help across all 4 units in the building. If a nurse calls off and coverage can't be found, they do take over a patient assignment. On occasion, more then one nurse will call off. Should a single nurse be responsible for 64 residents on 2 separate floors in the building?

    And again, the nurse practice act is what matters on if you have to report to a nurse on the unit or can just write report and leave. In my state we can't just write report to a supervisor and hope they get it. I honestly am scared for the patients of nurses who find it ok to leave them because the clock says 7:30 and they can't wait.
    There likely are precious few nurses who would actually leave, myself included, short of a true case of simply have to leave - like a warrant for your arrest will be issued if you fail to appear in court. Or your babysitter simply cannot stay over with your kids and they are too young to be left alone.

    The point of this thread is that I found it shocking how many nurses seem to feel they would be wrong to not stay if their relief failed to arrive. It's a new generation viewpoint I guess - believing that they have to stay on duty no matter how often their relief doesn't come in, no matter how sick they themselves might be, no matter what happens to their own children or other folk they care for, no matter how costly child care will be if they arrive late to get their children. I just think it is Admin's duty to staff. It is wrong, IMO, to expect a nurse to stay over every time their relief doesn't show up or is late.

    If you do write Report, you have to hand it to the Sup, you don't just hope he or she gets it. That was made clear long ago in this thread.

    I fear for the patients of nurses who are routinely exhausted and/or routinely forced to take more patients than they can reasonably care for properly.

  • Jan 14

    Quote from RegularNurse
    I appreciate your position, but I speak with my feet. I understand that everyone has a different situation though.
    I say this with all understanding and even appreciation of your belief, but speaking with your feet makes you part of the problem. Nursing can never expect to advance without bravery and working together to effect change that is good for nurses other than just yourself.

  • Jan 14

    Quote from RegularNurse
    Feeling forced and being forced are two completely different things.

    As previous posters have mentioned, helping out during some extenuating circumstance is one thing, but when stuff like this becomes common place you just have to get a new job.

    Remember, as a staff nurse without a union, you can't change systems.
    But we can't really build a retirement if we are always switching jobs. Yes, your 401K and IRA can go with you, but not a real pension - if you are fortunate enough to actually work for a firm that offers one.
    Nor can we build seniority if we are jumping ship every time a big wave comes along.

    Who do you think joins unions? Staff nurses. Unions don't just magically appear. People, ordinary people, make them happen. Ordinary people - you, I - lobby legislators and we do, indeed, make change. If you are always going to run away and never risk being a leader, well, that's just waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting and get shot down while you coast in on their coattails. Blood, sweat, and tears make change, not people who just run away.

    Sorry if that's harsh, but one of my biggest peeves is people who won't help make things better for themselves, people who let fear stand in the way, people who just run away, who don't see themselves as able to make any positive changes.


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