awful pt assignment or the norm?

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I work on a med/surg unit where the normal ratio is 1:6. For the last several months it has been 1:7 (due to low census) with only 2 nurses on the unit. We have 2 CNA's for 14 pts and a secretary that only works half the day (unless she takes PTO then they staff no secretary). On this particular day in hell 5 of my 7 pts were on isolation precautions for MRSA/VRE and 1 on droplet precations for meningitis. One patient had an anoxic brain injury and showed no real signs of life besides constantly thrashing herself all over in bed. Her rails were padded with anything imaginable (and had to be repositioned anytime you walked by the room), her legs wrapped from toes to thigh with dressings to prevent any further abrasions and skin tears (which would last about 2 hours). She had a trach and a PEG tube with continuous feedings and a fever I just couldn't get down no matter how many times I alternated Tylenol with motrin. Not to mention the needy family members that rushed me into the room for every cough or grimace. I had another lovely patient that hit, kicked, bit and spit on me, thus forcing me to put him into restraints before he pulled his PICC line out. The doctor comes in the pts room to find me cowering below the pts bed attempting to tighten his restaint as he flails his arm at me and nonchalantly tells me im going to have to put an NGT in him. O_O are you serious? This man? This man that will spit and yell and fight and refuses everything under the sun? I've never cried during a shift, but tears were stinging my eyes at this moment. I called my supervisor the for third time (my prior calls for mercy were ignored) and begged her for help before I lost my mind. She finally came, and with much help from staff (and some haldol) we got the NGT down. During this time I did 2 discharges and also got 2 new transfers. At no time did I get a lunch break, a sip of water, or even a chance to pee. I have only been at this job a little over a year and in that period of time 4 nurses have left the unit. I know at their exit interviews they made it very clear that the ratios are unsafe, the acuity is too high, and the managerial support is severely lacking. I do not feel like wasting my breath when they are aware and obviously don't care. Yes, I am in the process of looking for another job, but I really wrote this wondering if this is the norm of hospital nursing? Are there floors and units that staff fairly and actually take pt acuity into consideration? Is there such a thing as a manager being on a unit for more than 5 minutes of the entire day, someone that can see you drowning and will actually take time to help? I don't want to give up on hospital nursing entirely because I love the skills and the new things I constantly learn. Should I find a new hospital or find a new specialty?

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.

I worked in a hell hole like that and I made it sixteen years before crashing and burning out. I now work in a facility that runs a 1:3-5 ratio and if push comes to shove, managers are helping until sanity returns.

I'm one of the FT charges and I do all the dc too, so they don't have to worry. There are times the I get stung because a call in happened and I have to take a couple of patients until the census drops. Sucks for me, but that ratio never goes five for the floor nurse. We also run two cna and a full time secretary.

So, kudos for you for making it a year and I hope you get out of there quickly. Too bad you can't work where I do.

Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff.

It's so sad that med/surg gets the bad wrap of ALWAYS being understaffed in every single hospital. It's not the case and that needs to be mentioned. Many, many hospitals around me never go over five or max six. Always ask before starting a job. Talk to some of nurses if you can and tour the floor if able.

Specializes in Public Health.

My hospital ratio for med surg is 1:6. Max is 1:7. Some places are good.

My preceptorship hospital had 8-10 med-surg patients for 1 nurse. 1 CNA had the whole floor: up to 30 patients each! Secretary, what's that?? My step down unit went to 7 some nights, trach/total care patients included! I'd die before I'd work there. Unsafe with a capital U. Some hospitals are just horrible. We need nurse/patient ratio laws!

Have you looked into a magnet hospital? I've heard they're better.

Horrible patient assignment and in my opinion, dangerous. I work at a magnet hospital and we have our fair share of bad days with difficult assignments. But, 2 nurses on the floor? What if there were a code? Our night shift can have 6-7 patients each. I work evenings and our average is 5-6. Days, 4-5 patients. We are also experimenting with free charge nurse on evenings to help with admissions/transfers and med pass for busy nurses. Honestly, while many hospitals are operating like the one you're at, there are some that aren't. I would suggest looking elsewhere.

Specializes in Medical ICU.

Wow! I am sorry, this sounds awful. I have been a nurse 5 1/2 years...have always worked on the same med/surg floor (it's mainly just medical actually). When I first started out, on orientation, my preceptor wanted me to eventually take up to 8 pts because this happened at times and they wanted to make sure I could do it. Typical was 1:7...1:6 was wonderful...now over the last couple of years 1:6 has become almost unheard of. Typical is 1:5 on day shift AND night shift and if a nurse has a higher acuity pt then they have 1:4. We have a 24 bed unit and fully staffed we should have a charge RN and 5 other RNs, 3 CNAs and a unit clerk. If we are short a nurse, the charge takes patients. I frequently am charge, and especially now with people getting sick and calling out, I've had to take a 4 pt assignment and keep everyone else at 5. It sucks, but I personally am not comfortable giving the nurses 6 patients because it really is not safe, and if they drown, I cannot help them because I have my own patients. And as charge nurses, we also come in half an hour early to get report specifically so we can split up the patients based on acuity...the scenario you described above would not happen on our unit, someone would be in huge trouble for making an assignment like that. It might sound like we baby the nurses when we are in charge, but hey, we have the lowest turnover rate in our hospital and an incredible team and everyone truly is willing to help each other out. It can be stressful...it is common to flip your assignment with all the discharges, admissions, and transfers...and med/surg is crazy in general...but good units do exist! Actually there are a couple of nurses on my floor who work on med/surg floors PRN in another hospital nearby, and they say our floor is hellacious compared to the other hospital's med/surg floor. So, there are DEFINITELY better places to work, even if you stay in med/surg. It's worth looking before you burn out completely and possibly leave the nursing profession. Good luck! :)

That is so dangerous! You need to look for another place to work at if they think that is okay. I am so sorry that you had that happen. This is why nurses leave med/surg or the profession all together. How many times can this happen to nurse and they not get burnt out?! Just the thought of them trying to do this again would make me leave. And I would have cried too out of frustration.

This honestly sounds almost like a "day in the life" on my unit (1:6 patients happens). I thought something like this was the norm. lol I use to think if you didn't have an assignment like that or you kept protesting it, it meant you were kind of lazy in comparison. I didn't know people had it easier regularly else where.

Wait, 1:6 with high acuity is a bad ratio? Can someone please tell my manager that - I've never had any less than 6 patients, many with PEGs, TPN, drips, fresh post ops etc... and I'm a new grad. I'm lucky to have a single walkie-talkie on any given night but they act like every single patient is practically a self care.

It's stuff like this that makes people flee med-surg and new grads dread it. Even 1:5 would make my job feel so much more manageable.

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