Any males out there tired of the drama? - page 11

Anyone out there get real tired about the constant drama, anxiety, and non stop worrying exerted by your female classmates? To me, it seems like the majority of them have nothing to talk about other... Read More

  1. Visit  Merlyn profile page
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    Quote from murse_joker
    I think that is why male nurses are getting popular,
    we don't complain, AS MUCH. lol

    Let the flaming begin.
    AMEN, BROTHER!
  2. Visit  Tragically Hip profile page
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    Quote from HumptyDumpty
    As far as the entire CRNA route many of you have suggested to me because of your assumption that I am not a "people" person is complete BS. You do not know me in the least. Every single patient I have dealed with in clinical loved me, maybe for not being a superb "caring" happy go lucky nurse, but for being REAL. I can assure you, I will be a highly successfuly nurse practitioner.
    That may be true, but I still don't understand why you didn't study to be a PA. It dispenses with the nursing theory you're not fond of, while focusing more on the types of things that you will focus on as an FNP.

    Here in Florida, you can get a PA license with a 2-year PA degree, though as far as I know, everyone in the local college's program has at least several hundred hours of clinical experience of some type (or have shadowed a PA and/or done other volunteer work), and have one or more undergraduate degrees. Regardless of your level of education, you still have to pass the PA national exam.

    I've seen the PA curriculum, and it's devoid of what you would call "fluff" (i.e., nursing theory). There are as well very good masters-level PA programs. In fact, if you're very ambitious and as academically-capable as you sound, you could have gone to med school. Also, if you already have a degree, there are direct-entry NP masters programs, so you could have skipped at least some of the undergrad "drama" (though you'd still have had to take RN classes).

    Are you a masochist? For your purposes, what is the advantage of being a FNP versus a PA?
  3. Visit  Thujone profile page
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    Nope, I actually care about my education, so I spend ample amount of time studying and worrying about my scores as the next perfectionist.
    Broc likes this.
  4. Visit  scurbro profile page
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    You know some people will believe that you are doing exactly the same thing that your female colleagues are doing. Except in a different way.

    Complaining, but complaining about others complaining and not moving on. Dude if you think its okay people can vent, lend that same thinking to your female colleagues. Women and Men have been socialized to take things differently, but not all women complain about the same things.

    I haven't even started nursing school though, so I don't know. But I have been through four years of schooling and in that time I have heard plenty of complaining about grades, teachers, and such by both men and women. I don't think there is something different about nursing.

    But you do have your right, and be it far from me to keep it from you to complain. Just give your fellow classmates, female or not, the same respect.
  5. Visit  Broc profile page
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    My advice, buy an ipod and excite your cochlear nerve.
  6. Visit  Unique X profile page
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    Yes. It sucks when I get drawn in the cross fire especially in my nursing program, everyone is out to get one another and it's hard to be neutral.


    I ll try to avoid it but the same thing is going to happen again and again, bad cohort. :I
  7. Visit  Clodhopper profile page
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    New member here catching up on threads. I start my RN classes this month and cannot comment what goes on in the clinic. However, I can see parallels from working in a mixed office environment for 30 years. As a group, the females in an office were much more competitive with each other, to the point of being rather vicious at times, than guys ever were. Once it starts, whoever the target of the moment will receive snide comments in front and behind their back (which inevitably gets back to them), incessant backbiting and ANY real or perceived slight or fau pax (say, something trivial as mismatched colors) will get blown up out of proportion. We guys used to joke that you put three females in a room and within a week there will be a conflict underway among them. Just stay clear of it. No good ever comes out of such behavior in the long run and it will suppress your career. As the saying goes 'If you want to wrestle with a pig, you get muddy and the pig has fun." As a male in a female dominated field you also run the risk of being accused of sexual harassment. As an earlier poster said, said females may have laughed at some off colored comment or even initialed the exchange. Later on she gets mad at you and accuses you sexual harassment. It doesn't matter if she was OK to begin with, as the standard comeback is "I was just going along with the social dynamic, but really felt very uncomfortable all the time." Any such accusation could really just be retaliation against you by the person that has nothing to do with sex. Even if its proven that allegation was baseless and related to retaliation, Federal Law prevents the female from being punished. Therefore, she has no risk in paying that card against you. You minimally end up with a notation in your file that you were once accused of sexual harassment. That is useful for mgmt if you are ever accused again - builds a history "where's there smoke, there must be fire" sort of thing.
  8. Visit  EmarosaNYC profile page
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    Quote from scurbro
    You know some people will believe that you are doing exactly the same thing that your female colleagues are doing. Except in a different way.

    Complaining, but complaining about others complaining and not moving on. Dude if you think its okay people can vent, lend that same thinking to your female colleagues. Women and Men have been socialized to take things differently, but not all women complain about the same things.

    I haven't even started nursing school though, so I don't know. But I have been through four years of schooling and in that time I have heard plenty of complaining about grades, teachers, and such by both men and women. I don't think there is something different about nursing.

    But you do have your right, and be it far from me to keep it from you to complain. Just give your fellow classmates, female or not, the same respect.
    You know damn well girls do this more than guys= point of this thread.
  9. Visit  umbdude profile page
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    I've worked in a male-dominated industry for years and believe me guys have their own drama (I am a guy myself). They complain about different set of subjects, but complain nonetheless. Not all of them are like that, just as not all women are like that (I've also worked with many women and reported to many). If you really get to know the guys, some of them are petty and competitive about stupid things. Depending on what kind of firm you work for, sometimes you have cut throat guys at the top firm; then you have guys at lower-tier firm who think they're real smart so they never stress or care about anything (when in reality they're mediocre).

    And by the way, I've taken 5 pre-reqs (will start nursing in a few months) and have not yet encounter ONE male student who is serious about school. One guy in my A&P class complained about the instructor all through even though his work ethics is terrible. The other guys I met either drop, cheat, or say the class is EASY while getting Cs in the class. The female students are distributed more evenly simply because there are more of them. There're always a few at the top, most are average, and a few are poor students.

    The OP seems to think that he's the center of universe. To me he's just ignorant.

    P.S. Actually there was one guy who's cool and smart, but he's going into PA. Also, he offered help to students who needed help instead of ranting about them.
    Last edit by umbdude on Aug 12, '12 : Reason: addition
  10. Visit  Ackeem profile page
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    I'm the only male in my class and to be honest I get alot of attention. We all get along well,( I'm not feminine just for the record ). However one thing I find annoying is the constant nagging of the instructors and upcoming exams. All my instructors respect and acknowledge me and ironically 4 of my 6 of them are males.

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