new rn supervisor - page 2

I have started a job as a rn supervisor. I am a new grad and totally lost. My orientation was 2 days with lpn's that had attitudes toward rn's. The facility is going through management changes and... Read More

  1. by   pepperann35
    Quote from LesMonsterSN
    I agree with the other folks - get out quickly. And yes, I'd have to agree with CapeCodMermaid - you need more of an experience base in LTC to be an effective supervisor. The fact that they hired you as a new grad makes me think that they're desperate; you don't need to work in a facility that thinks they have to grab a nurse just for her title and not her experience base. You worked too hard and too long for that precious license to have it devalued in that way by an employer. Good luck!
    I agree you are too new to work as a supervisor. You have to be able to handle anything that comes up and that can only be learned through experience. I am a supervisor in LTC. I have been a LPN for almost 19 years and took this job 2 yrs. ago. Good luck to you!
  2. by   PsychNurseWannaBe
    Quote from TheCommuter
    It's perfectly legal to borrow meds from 1 patient and give them to another in LTCFs.
    The poster also asked about borrowing narcs. Isn't that against federal law?
  3. by   PsychNurseWannaBe
    To the original poster: Do you not have contigency boxes? If you do, then the nurses are being plain lazy. Of course they wouldn't have to use the boxes as much if they actually ordered their meds in advance. I agree with the other posters....get out now. Part of being a nurse is to only accept assignments that you are compentent in and right now I think that this role is a little too big for you. Best wishes and good luck!
  4. by   CapeCodMermaid
    Quote from PsychNurseWannaBe
    The poster also asked about borrowing narcs. Isn't that against federal law?
    I believe it is against the federal law to borrow narcs. That is why we all should have Ekits. That said, if I really needed a medication and had none in the Ekit, I would first ask the doc to change the order to something I did have until the other medication could be delivered and then would have the pharmacy send it stat. If that failed then I would probably take the chance and borrow from another patient so the resident wouldn't suffer.
    One of the issues with borrowing other medications is insurance. They will only send a 30 day supply and we can't re-order early. So if I borrow from patient X to give to patient Y, then patient X will run out too soon.
    The answer is for the med nurse to reorder on a timely basis and for the pharmacy to deliver on time (yes ...I can see the eye rolling now...easier said than done.)
  5. by   Praise,RN
    Hi ellexias,

    Curious as to what the starting pay was as RN supervisor?
  6. by   Praise,RN
    Hello DON's and RN supervisors,

    Inquiring what is a decent salary or pay rate for takng these positions? Please be honest with your job responses?

    I really appreciate it,

    Praise.
  7. by   pepperann35
    I am a night shift supervisor in LTC. I only make $1 per hr. over the rest of the nursing staff.
  8. by   PsychNurseWannaBe
    Our house supervisors do not get paid any extra. They used to get a $2.00 differential but not any more. You just get to deal with the headaches and have a really stressful shift all for the same price as me. Which by the way I get headaches and have stressful shifts. LOL.
  9. by   1BlessedRN
    it is illegal to borrow narcotics....that is a big NO, NO I would treat any meds in this manner and not engage in this habit....if its unavailable follow up with pharmacy...always practice safety~
  10. by   pepperann35
    Quote from traumaRUs
    You're a new grad and I'm sorry to tell you, but they are taking advantage of you. I too second the "get outta there" sentiment.
    yeah, I agree. You are a new nurse. I was a nurse 18 yrs. before I took position as supervisor. Maybe the attitude from the LPN's is due to your lack of experience. For your safety and peace of mind, get out and get some experience under your belt first.nurse:
  11. by   Psychtrish39
    All the attitudes about long term care I hear on here from nurses as well as places I have worked long term care the attitudes suck all the way around and if I was her I would run. There are decent LTC jobs I guess but I have never had one.. Its hard back breaking work, over indulged residents that are never pleased. That girl will quit nursing if she keeps getting positions like that and attitudes from us on here. That get the newbie attitude is about what makes me want to go work as a highway flagger and run the chance of getting run over...
  12. by   southernbeegirl
    I wonder what ever happened to the OP. Did she stay? did she go?

    I really discourage any new RN to be a house supervisor. First you have to learn how to be a "nurse" on the floor. As the supervisor, the staff look to you to know what to do. How can you be there for them if you don't know how?
    to be a supervisor, you have to also know all the policies of the facility and who to call for what. no way you can know that just starting out.

    thats setting yourself up for failure.

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