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Why are nursing instructors so intimidating? - page 2

Why do nursing instructors feel the need to be so intimidating and humiliating? I am really struggling with this in my nursing class. Is there a good reason for this that I am just not getting yet? ... Read More

  1. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    At my school the instructors are nice its the classmates that bring you to tears.
  2. Visit  amjowens profile page
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    I had an instructor that was very intimidating. At first, I easily got offended. Soon, though, I realized that, just as a child who has a parent who cares enough to scold a child to prepare it for the world, I was lucky to have an instructor who cared enough to teach me. I mean, other nurses, patients, physicians, patient's family members, etc., are all going to expect us to know our stuff, and if we don't or if we show weakness, it's not as though we'll likely be treated tenderly.

    If the instructor is just purely mean, that's a different topic. It's hard to tell until you're done with school, or faced with a stressful situation, so as students I guess we should try not to take things so personally, and see we might be getting a lesson even if it feels bad.

    My "nicest" clinical instructor-the one we all liked so much-didn't prepare my group for the rigors of the next semester. I thought she was awesome until I moved on, and now realize she wasn't doing me or our group any favors-but actually hurting us toward trying to become capable nurses.
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  3. Visit  daisybaby profile page
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    Well, I guess you could look at it this way- it will be good practice for when the docs yell at you (and it will happen).

    You really haven't been yelled at until a doc screams at you (for something that wasn't your fault in the first place) at the nurses desk at shift change while your patient is walking in the hall with their family. AND the student nurses and their instructor are there getting report along with the eve shift.

    Seriously, though, I feel for you. You have a good head on your shoulders. Grit your teeth through it and you'll be brilliant.
  4. Visit  missjennmb profile page
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    Quote from daisybaby
    Well, I guess you could look at it this way- it will be good practice for when the docs yell at you (and it will happen).

    You really haven't been yelled at until a doc screams at you (for something that wasn't your fault in the first place) at the nurses desk at shift change while your patient is walking in the hall with their family. AND the student nurses and their instructor are there getting report along with the eve shift.

    Seriously, though, I feel for you. You have a good head on your shoulders. Grit your teeth through it and you'll be brilliant.
    Seriously???? Because while I understand suck it up and deal when it comes to getting through school any way possible, because the end justifies the means, there is NO way I would let someone yell at me like I am a child in my place of business. none...zip...zilch.... If that means I leave my job and find some place where my coworkers are held to a higher standard, so be it. If it means there is no place for me in nursing, well thats fine too (although highly unlikely IMO) because no adult should be treated like they are a disobedient child.

    Thankfully there are 5 hospitals and about a thousand doctors offices, outpatient surgeries, LTCs, psych hospitals within driving distance for me, so I don't think it will be a problem, but I don't think ANYONE should tolerate being yelled at by a doctor or anyone else who is being paid to work together. Patients I understand because they are sick, scared, frustrated with their illness, etc and we are there to take care of them, but there's a big difference between a sick and scared and miserable patient possibly looking their mortality in the face for the first time and the doctor with the $100,000 sports car and salary to match.
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  5. Visit  daisybaby profile page
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    Quote from scorpiostudent
    Seriously????
    Believe me, once the dust settled I had a word with the unit director, and then the doc, in private. He apologized profusely, and we had a pretty congenial working relationship from there on in.

    You are right, nurses don't have to tolerate bad behavior of docs. If you are able to deal with it calmly and professionally the first time it happens, (thus one-upping the doc), you can nip it in the bud. Just about every facility has at least one of "those docs", unfortunately- but if you handle it the right way, the nurse always comes out on top.
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  6. Visit  NewStudentGirly profile page
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    Quote from tothepointe
    At my school the instructors are nice its the classmates that bring you to tears.

    How true! Its almost like being thrown into a den of hungry lions.
  7. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    Yeah I don't know what it is. Maybe the stress but geez...
  8. Visit  flightnurse2b profile page
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    this is going to sound terrible, but i wish each semester for a drill seargant CI.

    the students in my class (which is very small) have been allowed to get away with pretty much whatever. many of them scare me and if they were ever my loved one's nurse or my nurse i would go running for the hills.

    they have been slapped on the wrist and passed through. med errors have been made and covered up. they take two hour breaks. "i forgot" care plans were due today, and its ok. it drives me crazy.

    i just wish i could borrow one of these instructors. i wish someone would push harder. while i am not condoning intimidating or bad CI behavior, i wish i had an instructor who asked 1000 questions and kept us on our toes. we are graduating in 3 months, and we have students starting IV's bevel down and hanging medications that cannot complete the drug calculations correctly. students who think peridex is ok to flush a g-tube with. students who forgot thats it is not ok to mix lantus with regular insulin.

    someone should have ridden them harder, but they didnt, and now they will be allowed to test for licensure as a nurse. the world needs more battle axe CI's....
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  9. Visit  Daytonite profile page
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    Quote from flightnurse2b
    this is going to sound terrible, but i wish each semester for a drill seargant CI.

    the students in my class (which is very small) have been allowed to get away with pretty much whatever. many of them scare me and if they were ever my loved one's nurse or my nurse i would go running for the hills.

    they have been slapped on the wrist and passed through. med errors have been made and covered up. they take two hour breaks. "i forgot" care plans were due today, and its ok. it drives me crazy.

    i just wish i could borrow one of these instructors. i wish someone would push harder. while i am not condoning intimidating or bad CI behavior, i wish i had an instructor who asked 1000 questions and kept us on our toes. we are graduating in 3 months, and we have students starting IV's bevel down and hanging medications that cannot complete the drug calculations correctly. students who think peridex is ok to flush a g-tube with. students who forgot thats it is not ok to mix lantus with regular insulin.

    someone should have ridden them harder, but they didnt, and now they will be allowed to test for licensure as a nurse. the world needs more battle axe CI's....
    And people criticize me when they think my posts are too harsh! I've seen the damage some of these students do when they get jobs.
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  10. Visit  BeverlynBama profile page
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    I am with the mind set that I prefer strict instructors that push their students to be and do the very best possible.

    I personally look at it as a challenge.
  11. Visit  stelon profile page
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    Quote from BeverlynBama
    I am with the mind set that I prefer strict instructors that push their students to be and do the very best possible.

    I personally look at it as a challenge.
    I agree with you, though it took me a bit to realize that. My CNA clinical instructor was SO easy on us, and while I'll admit it was nice, those were skills that were easy to learn and didn't require nearly as much responsibility as the duties of a nurse.

    She was a very nice instructor, but I sincerely hope my instructors for LVN and RN when I get there are harder on us than that and make sure we really know our stuff. Though I could do without yelling.
  12. Visit  missjennmb profile page
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    There's a huge difference between a horrible/"likes to flunk students" instructor and a tough instructor. HUGE

    I love tough classes, always have. My favorite class ever in college was Earth Science. Every test was brutal. We had to memorize massive amounts of information, and there were no multiple choice questions. 100 questions on each test. A review before each test that gave us all a rough idea of what would be on the test, but it would cover ATLEAST three times the material that was actually tested. It was VERY hard. The subject itself was not something that I was ever interested in. BUT... along with these tough tests, our teacher gave us every tool we needed to make the grade. If we did not get it, it was because we did not work hard enough, not because we couldnt. There was never a need to ask him for extra help, because he provided everything we could possibly need. Granted, it would have been 'easier' if he had narrowed down what we studied or whatever, but then we would not have learned nearly as much.

    What made this class so memorable though? Every day he greeted us with a smile. Every topic he shared with us, he thoroughly enjoyed. He shared parts of himself, his past experiences, his philosophies, and really helped us LIVE the content by his enthusiasm for it. He instilled in us an interest in a topic that most of us could have been bored to tears by. And when we passed those tests... when I walked out of that class with a solid A... I felt great about it. I EARNED THAT A. And that was what made it special.

    This semester, I have a math teacher who is known through the school for being "scary". He is really tough. But what sets him apart in a negative way is the way that he treats his students... his utter lack of respect and speaking to people as though they were six and just stupid for not understanding what he is talking about. I overheard a student telling him she was thinking of dropping his class because she was not comprehending it and he did not say "lets see what resources you could use to help you understand" or "maybe I can sit with you blah blah blah or so and so is at the student lab and can help tutor you in math" or ANYTHING. Do you know what he said? "ok" thats it. He saw a student that clearly needed help, and refused to put himself out there. He took over for our other teacher half way through and 2 students dropped w/in 2 classes of it. For the record, I have somewhere between a 97 and a 100 for my grade so far this year (1 test left to grade plus the final and our writing assignment) so its not personal. It just goes to show the difference between a "good" tough and a "bad" tough. I've had a class in my favorite subject of the time (Computers) be so dumbed down and such an easy A that I almost complained to the school too, but this is getting a bit long already.

    I just pray that the students in my class are interested in working together instead of against eachother... or at the very least are able to leave me out of the drama if they have to have it.
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  13. Visit  KansasFNP profile page
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    Some nursing instructors feel as though they can "weed out" the students who don't have what it takes to survive in the field.


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