Why don't people take LPNs seriously? - Page 10

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  1. Asst. Admin
    Quote from tothepointeLVN
    How is that different to other nursing schools where you can challenge the CNA certification after the first 6 weeks? Can you post your reference on this Esme12. Thanks =D

    I also went through the BON for WA and did a random sampling of admission requirements and while I found a couple of LPN programs required a NAC license most RN schools simply prefer it or some kind of health experience usually for extra points.
    I found multiple references to this.....Nursing Links - Washington State Nurses Association

    Nursing Assistant Requirement Questions.........
    Nursing Assistant Requirements
  2. Quote from Esme12
    I found multiple references to this.....Nursing Links - Washington State Nurses Association
    This is just link to a list of links.

    Quote from Esme12
    Nursing Assistant Requirement Questions.........
    Nursing Assistant Requirements
    And this is just one school not a mandate from the BON stating that it's a requirement.

    Here's a couple of schools in WA state that don't

    Welcome to Peninsula College - Program Details
    Admission Requirements | Lake Washington Institute of Technology

    If its a mandate from the BON there should be something concrete on the BON website and there's not.
  3. Asst. Admin
    my misunderstanding. I did see it....and cannot find it. This paper talks of it and there is reference to the curriculum standards. On or about page 22 but there is no law. http://www.wsna.org/Education/docume...ation.2007.pdf

    I'm not sure.....but I think we agree there is no law.

    I bow to your knowledge about this for I have none
    Last edit by Esme12 on Aug 15, '12
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  4. Thanks =D this is closer but this is still just a white paper from the Washington Nurse's Association but honestly for me on this issue it's fine since I was hoping the poster in question would justify his statement. I don't need to be going back and forth with Esme12 on this =D

    I still got some interesting data from digging around all those sites though. One little factoid from the WA BON was that RN graduates have increased by 101% since 2001. That probably has more to do with phase out of LPN's in that state than anything else.
  5. Quote from tothepointeLVN
    Thanks =D this is closer but this is still just a white paper from the Washington Nurse's Association but honestly for me on this issue it's fine since I was hoping the poster in question would justify his statement. I don't need to be going back and forth with Esme12 on this =D

    I still got some interesting data from digging around all those sites though. One little factoid from the WA BON was that RN graduates have increased by 101% since 2001. That probably has more to do with phase out of LPN's in that state than anything else.
    I already clarified. I apologize for not being as clear on on this particular matter the first time around, but my follow up was sufficient. As with anything else in a good debate, you have zoomed in on this even though it was said in error admittedly and yet have not attempted to discuss what I have said about the actual topic matter of this discussion.
  6. Y'know I have a problem with posters like you who only post negative rhetoric so if I reply to you what can I expect back? More negative? No thanks. I've gotten your message. You think your superior because your PLAN for your future is much better than other people's reality. No amount of me debating with you will change your opinion on that. Only time and experience will.
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  7. Quote from tothepointeLVN
    Y'know I have a problem with posters like you who only post negative rhetoric so if I reply to you what can I expect back? More negative? No thanks. I've gotten your message. You think your superior because your PLAN for your future is much better than other people's reality. No amount of me debating with you will change your opinion on that. Only time and experience will.
    I dont think I am superior to anyone, as far as my plan goes, I could die tomrorow and it will be all for naught, or it could work and make me successful. Aiming personal attacks at me does not change anything about the statistics of RN to liscensed staff ratio and quality patient care and I am disappointing that you choose to focus attacks at me instead of focusing your energy into making a rebuttal to the topic I have brought up.
  8. There's nothing for me to say on that issue that my colleagues haven't already said. I'm attacking your message not you. You can always change your message.
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  9. Quote from tothepointeLVN
    There's nothing for me to say on that issue that my colleagues haven't already said. I'm attacking your message not you. You can always change your message.
    You say that, and yet have done little to rebuttal my main point of facilities with more RN's than LPN's having higher levels of patient care.
  10. Quote from tothepointeLVN
    Y'know I have a problem with posters like you who only post negative rhetoric so if I reply to you what can I expect back? More negative? No thanks. I've gotten your message. You think your superior because your PLAN for your future is much better than other people's reality. No amount of me debating with you will change your opinion on that. Only time and experience will.
    Totally. Sidroc, once (if) you actually work as a BSN you will be in for one rude reality check. If you imply to your ADN and LPN coworkers that your education makes you a better nurse, they will eat you up and spit you out. Seen it happen. You're only a student and you're already judgmental, stating that LPNs and ADNs lack motivation or drive or passion or whatever. Good luck with your nursing career. Your gonna need it...
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