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- by xmaxiex Feb 16, '05When I am in the capacity of charge nurse on my LTC unit , I find it humilliating and frustrating that I have to find an RN to sign off on my MD orders , and if we have a fall only they can do the assessment. No wonder they treat us as if we are not " real " nurses.
- Feb 16, '05 by nesherHard to respond to this...
- Feb 16, '05 by SmilingBluEyesYour role and scope of responsibilites as an LPN (or RN, for that matter) is not as likely decided by your facility, as they would be by your State/Provincial Board of Nursing. Check and see what specifically those are. If you don't like what you are reading, maybe it's time to return to school? I wish you well. Far as I am concerned, LPNs/LVNs ARE "real nurses".Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Feb 16, '05
- Feb 16, '05 by xmaxiexI just do not understand the whole orders thing ? I mean as an LPN are we less qualified than an RN to record what instructions the MD gives us . I totally think you should always have someone check your orders, yes. But why not another LPN ? Am I missing the point here?
- Mar 1, '05 by jude11142Quote from xmaxiexI also find it humiliating and frustrating but I can tell you that the RN's where I work aren't too happy about it either. I don't blame them.When I am in the capacity of charge nurse on my LTC unit , I find it humilliating and frustrating that I have to find an RN to sign off on my MD orders , and if we have a fall only they can do the assessment. No wonder they treat us as if we are not " real " nurses.
Just think, we take the MD order, write it in as one and then an RN has to sign it. What if we wrote it up wrong? Wrong med, wrong dose, wrong pt?????
I, in no way am trying to say that we as LPN's aren't capable of taking an order, I am saying that I would never want to sign off on it unless I was the nurse talking to the doctor. Doesn't matter to me if it's an lpn or rn.
It is demeaning to us as lpn's to have to do this. I have to wonder what will be next?
- Mar 1, '05 by Blackcat99Sorry to hear about your situation. Here at the Washington state LTC's the LPN's do the doctor's orders without an RN signature and LPN's do the assessments on falls etc.
- Mar 1, '05 by TweetyI agree it must be frustrating. Here LPNs are allowed to take verbal orders.
But it is understood the LPN operates under the direction of an RN.
No one should make you feel like your not a real nurse, or has the person above to feel humiliation. Don't give anyone that kind of power. If they think that, they have the problem. Don't let them rent space in your head. Feel good about yourself and the role you play in the wellbeing of the patients/residents.
- Mar 2, '05 by xmaxiexTweety , you are so right . I think I am going to have tattooed on my forearm "don't let anyone rent space in your head" I do this often and I need to cut it out ! Not only in work but everywhere else . Suddenly I am quite sick of trying to please the masses. Must be age creeping up on me ! :chuckle
- Mar 4, '05 by zippyLPNjust wondering.......lpn's in other states just wondering what lpn's can & cant do in other states.... im in mass.
been a nurse for 8yrs now and have done alot in my "short" career
so far. ive been a wound nurse, mds nurse, add-on nurse and a shift supervisor in an 150 bed snf/ltc facility as well as being a cna instructor(state certified) and of course a floor charge nurse. currently im a floor charge nurse (myself and the other nurse are charge (ltc unit) ) i have 23 pts on my wing ..total of 43 on the unit with 6 cna's
total for my 3-11 shift... how are the ratio's elsewhere? how is the pay in other areas? i made just over $55k last yr with very little overtime...
like i said....just wondering.................
i was also reading the beginning of this thread and i'm like...........what ???? lpns cant do assessments? md orders? im thinking , are these ppl from mars? the only thing i cant do as an lpn is sign the rap's and pronouncements....im sure there is a bit more , and iit depends on the facility....
- Mar 5, '05 by TweetyQuote from xmaxiexTweety , you are so right . I think I am going to have tattooed on my forearm "don't let anyone rent space in your head" I do this often and I need to cut it out ! Not only in work but everywhere else . Suddenly I am quite sick of trying to please the masses. Must be age creeping up on me ! :chuckle
Rock on! I've learned my self-esteem and worth as a human being, as a man, a nurse is not based on anyone elses thinking. What others think of me is not my business.
Don't make it your business if anyone thinks you're less than, because you know you're not!
There are some good things happening as age creeps up on us.